[The Age] New airport link proposed

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
A NEW freeway linking Melbourne Airport to the city's proposed outer ring road is being considered, changes to Melbourne's urban growth boundary show.

Meanwhile, a train line to the airport remains off the agenda.



A VicRoads spokeswoman yesterday confirmed preliminary work had been done on plans for the freeway link, which would in effect extend the Tullamarine Freeway by about seven kilometres to Sunbury. The freeway would link the airport to the planned outer ring road, a 73-kilometre, eight-lane freeway that travels north of the airport.

The ring road will not be built for a decade, but its route is being decided now.

A final proposal for the ring road, released yesterday, shows the new link from the airport would either pass around the township of Bulla or through Oaklands Junction.

The freeway extension was proposed in June, but was not part of the outer ring road plan. While the Brumby Government is willing to consider another freeway to the airport, a rail line from the CBD remains off the agenda.

On Monday, speaking at a transport conference, Roads Minister Tim Pallas said it was not a priority. ''It's time we recognised the SkyBus service to Melbourne Airport is an enormously popular form of mass transit that successfully fulfils the need for public transport to the airport,'' he said. ''Should taxpayers devote a couple of billion dollars to a huge infrastructure project so Melbourne can boast of the dubious honour of an airport rail link?''

Before the 1999 election, Labor promised to build a ''rapid transit link'' to the airport.

The Age
http://www.theage.com.au/national/new-airport-link-proposed-20091111-i9yn.html

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  LamontCranston Chief Commissioner

Damn their oily hides.

Also when did this "outer ring road" show up?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I have three words to say about the State Govt on this one:

STUPID STUPID STUPID!
  MelbourneCity Chief Commissioner

Damn their oily hides.

Also when did this "outer ring road" show up?
"LamontCranston"


In the latest "Plan". It will link the Princess west of Werribee and run to the Hume somewhere near Avenel. It is likely to then continue east - possibly linking up with Eastlink.

They say its needed - I'm not convinced. Lets see some OTHER projects undertaken to shift the freight load from road to rail and ease congestion.

Sunbury is set to be served by 3 motorways - the Calder, this new one and the Tulla extension.
  fast01 BUTTSCRATCHER!

Location: Somewhere your not.
Extending the Tulla Freeway has been a Vicroads nightmare for years, though ideas have been flung about as using the tulla extension as a base to join it up with the Northern Highway. With this new outer ring road getting built, it gives Vicroads the perfect justification to turn that nightmare into a feasable idea and examine the possibilites with a decent budget of getting the bigger picture established.

I do support this outer ring road, but it needs to have rail directly incorporated into the project straight away, not provisions that will never happen.
  LamontCranston Chief Commissioner

So with these Freeways they're going to extend Suburbia all the way to Sunbury?
  MelbourneCity Chief Commissioner

So with these Freeways they're going to extend Suburbia all the way to Sunbury?
"LamontCranston"


It is practically already there - Diggers Rest will soon meet Sunbury's western suburbs!

We're going to hear more calls for curfews etc as people move closer to the airport.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
This in the Age today.  Could not have been said better.  Same old boring rubbish from Brumby. Can't this guy actually get on with a sustainable approach to this city?

Remember he has never won a state election!

Another road to the airport?
November 13, 2009


THE Government cannot be serious. Mr Brumby needs to seriously reconsider planning a new road for the airport (''New airport link proposed", The Age, 12/11). Surely the time has come for a proper rail link between the airport and the city. How can more roads be considered when looming oil shortages have just been reported. The last thing Melbourne needs is another road.

Almost every major city I have visited around the world has a train link to the city centre. Even developing nations like China have the foresight to do this. Our government needs to stop looking at roads as the solution and start placing more emphasis on trains and other public transport.

This requires a 25 to 30-year "master plan". I am yet to see a politician or government have the courage to start such a project. The first that does so will be remembered forever. So Mr Brumby, you could be remembered as one who inherited the lead or one who started something that all Melburnians can be proud of.

David Love, Balwyn North
  Edith Chief Commissioner

Location: Line 1 from Porte de Vincennes bound for Bastille station
It is interesting that Vic Roads does detailed plans for a road that government has yet to consider building, while railway plans are not started until well after the government gives an election commitment.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

One option that must be considered is a fast rail link between Sunbury and Inner Melbourne via the airport.  Not only would it enable fast & efficient travel from both Bendigo and Melbourne to the airport, but it could also reduce the Suburban bottleneck that afflicts V-line and Met services between Southern Cross and Sydenham (i.e run V/Locity services on new line as well).
  MelbourneCity Chief Commissioner

This in the Age today.  Could not have been said better.  Same old boring rubbish from Brumby. Can't this guy actually get on with a sustainable approach to this city?

Remember he has never won a state election!

Another road to the airport?
November 13, 2009

So Mr Brumby, you could be remembered as one who inherited the lead or one who started something that all Melburnians can be proud of.

David Love, Balwyn North
"bevans"


Brumby is a politician with no long term view at all - he's a stunt man. Watch the television news closely for the PR stunts that he performs. Very uninspiring politician and as you say, never won an election. We can only hope that claim to fame of his stands in November 2010.
  62440 Chief Commissioner

Obviously they need more cars if the car parks are not full. Don't forget that a train service taking 1000 people to the airport would reduce car park income by $50k a day or $18M pa. The long stay car park only has a dozen bus stops for the shuttle bus, they could add a few more. A triangle link off the Sunshine Broadmeadows with direct links to town and country would be useful. Any precedents? Try Manchester and Stansted which have rail links to a range of destinations.
There are three main groups to consider;
people from elsewhere arriving in Victoria
people from Victoria flying out
people who work at or around the airport.
Just don't threaten car park income and do expect a lwvy on bus and rail users
  LamontCranston Chief Commissioner

It is interesting that Vic Roads does detailed plans for a road that government has yet to consider building, while railway plans are not started until well after the government gives an election commitment.
"Edith"

Or how easily they can build umpteen dozen highways and freeways, and have more planned, but anything rail is akin to dentistry on a tiger without anesthesia.
  Speed Minister for Railways

The seven kilometres between the airport and the outer ringroad, is of itself not the biggest issue.

If there is going to be an outer ringroad, it makes sense for there to be a link to the airport. Presumably, there is sufficient traffic to fill the ringroad anticipated. The volume of traffic going from south-west of Melbourne to the northern suburbs is going to include much traffic for the airport. If you don't plan a link from the outer ringroad to the Tullamarine freeway, you have to expect a bottleneck to cause congestion out there.

A bigger issue is what traffic the government expects to use this outer ringroad. Is it mainly freight that could be moved by rail instead?
  LamontCranston Chief Commissioner

The people living in the suburbs to be built in the rezoned North and West?
  Edith Chief Commissioner

Location: Line 1 from Porte de Vincennes bound for Bastille station
The people living in the suburbs to be built in the rezoned North and West?
"LamontCranston"


Well, there will be 500,000 people to be housed in these new suburbs, plus new freight terminals around Donnybrook.  Rail freight transport - the government is trying to get back bits of North Melbourne and Dynon to build new suburbs in - it wants the freight handling to be done further away from Melbourne.

Where the jobs will be for those in the Western suburbs, nobody knows and the government is not making any plans for that - I asked them !
  LamontCranston Chief Commissioner

Building more highways and suburban developments.

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