Sydney Metro plan

 
  Veyron407 Junior Train Controller

Back a few months ago when RP was up, I posted my own plan of sorts for a metro system. I have revised it, and made a few changes to it.

All suburban services will terminate at Central (or Chatswood in the case of the North Shore Line).

Line A will travel from Glenfield down the current East Hills line through the Airport extension until it reaches Central, where there will be new underground platforms. It will then proceed onto the CC travelling anti-clockwise around the loop before returning to Glenfield. This, as well as increasing capacity on the East Hills line, will free up space on the section of the line between Tempe and Redfern due to all Line A trains travelling via the airport.

Line B will travel from new platforms at Central, and will go clockwise around the CC before returning to Central and terminating.

Line C will travel from new platforms at Central, and will continue up the current North Shore line to Chatswood, where all trains will proceed into the ECRL. After the trains stop at Epping, they will travel on new tracks through Cheltenham, then will proceed into a new tunnel that will travel through West Pennant Hills, and north towards Castle Hill. 2 new stations will be made on this section at a major intersection as well as a shopping centre, as well as a station at the intersection of Castle Hill Road and Highs Road. The line will then proceed up towards Round Corner, stopping at a station at the Rogans Hill shops, before entering a stabling facility at Round Corner. This will be used in addition to the Luna Park stabling facility to store trains on Lines B and C.

Line D will start at Rockdale, using the easternmost tracks (the westernmost tracks will be used for South Coast and Illawarra services), then proceed up the line, stopping at Banksia, Arncliffe, Wolli Creek, Sydenham, St Peters and Erskineville. The line will then proceed down the Eastern Suburbs line to Bondi Junction, before travelling through a new tunnel to Bondi Beach, where trains will terminate.

Line E will be comprise of the cancelled West Metro, CBD Metro and North West metro proposals.

Line F will be the cancelled South West Metro, and the Northern Beaches Metro.

Benifits of this plan are:
Freeing up capacity on existing lines, relieving congestion on lines that will be converted to metro.
Freeing up carriages. Over 40 new 8 car trains will be available if the above CityRail lines are converted to metros.

Other rail projects I have proposed are:

Converting the Botany - Marrickville line to passenger operation. Will provide a new link to the Airport, as well as improving PT in a poorly served area. Trains will be standard CityRail trains, and passengers will change trains to Bankstown services at Marrickville.

Underground trams in CBD - Existing line will go underground just after Convention station, and the existing stations will be replaced underground. Barangaroo Line will start at Central, proceed to Capitol Square, then continue down another underground line to Walsh Bay, through Darling Harbour and Barangaroo. This will increase frequency, as well as improve access to Darling Harbour and Barangaroo. The existing line will also be extended to Dulwich Hill.

So, post your comments/thoughts/suggestions/ideas on these plans below!

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  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
So no trains to Campbelltown Macarther then, what they all walk from Glenfield to there do they?
How about all the passengers that travel Macarther/C/town to Granville?
  Jahommed Chief Train Controller

Location: Sydney
Interesting, so it seems no trains past Rockdale......
  goninan_bl00d Train Controller

Location: Not here, that's where.
Mind that it is only the metro system. I'd expect the existing system to still be functional, otherwise it'd be more than a little pointless.

But expanding on the concept of Line B- there should be a two or four-car city circle shuttle, operating every 5 minutes during peak hour in both directions.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner


So, post your comments/thoughts/suggestions/ideas on these plans below!
"Veyron407"


You should have a read through  http://transporttextbook.com/?p=918.  That is a similar plan to yours, and but much more fleshed out.  

The thing I really struggle with is why you are doing it.   What problem are you trying to solve exactly?
  urailes0623 Assistant Commissioner

Location: HELP
i think it would be better to start line A at Campbelltown, at the moment peak city via east hills trains are almost full before they reach Glenfield and for it to fully work we would want to reduce service changes, as its the last thing people want to do in the morning or arvo.


2nd  line D should start at Hurstville were the tracks begin, and in the peek Hurstville gets very busy then proceed up the line stoping at Allawah, Carlton, Kogarah, Rockdale, Banksia, Arncliffe, Wolli Creek, Sydenham, St Peters, Erskineville then all to Bondi Beach.

That is just my opinion.
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Wouldnt this topic go, I dont know, in the 114 page long topic about the metro? Exclamation
That is afterall where the orginal post your talking about went, it wasnt that long ago Idea
  Rails Chief Commissioner

You are making a heap of changes and adding complication for no real benefit other than pissing alot of passengers off. Why change to a Metro style network yet run it at 3 minutes Peak and 7 minutes off peak? Cityrail can do that with DD stock. What benefit do you see 8 car single deck trains offering over 8 Car A sets? What happens with the Northern line? Why run Cityrail trains from Hornsby to Chatswood at all? Why run Metro to the NW when it has much less patronage and is more suited to DD trains than the North Shore line?  Yet also build the NW Metro!!!! Do you live in the NW by any chance?  Laughing  The CBD Metro was killed for good reason, why try and bring it back in the same form (which wont be possible I think you will find). When was there a SW Metro?
  simonl Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
I pretty much echo what Rails said.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner


Converting the Botany - Marrickville line to passenger operation. Will provide a new link to the Airport, as well as improving PT in a poorly served area. Trains will be standard CityRail trains, and passengers will change trains to Bankstown services at Marrickville.
"Veyron407"


That - or something similar - would have been a great thing to have done,  rather than what we did with the airport line.  

Unfortunately, I think that horse has well and truly bolted.  The airport has  excellent rail interchange facilities.  The issue is the trains that service them and price of access render them next to useless.
  5814 Chief Train Controller

Why on earth would anyone convert the Marrickville-Botany goods line to passenger operation? Instant result would be less freight rail capacity and more semi-trailers through the inner west  - in exchange for a passenger line which would be a very poor substitute indeed for Ron Christie's proposed metro Sydenham - Botany - UNSW - racecourse - Paddington - Taylor Square - St James.
  Veyron407 Junior Train Controller

Why on earth would anyone convert the Marrickville-Botany goods line to passenger operation? Instant result would be less freight rail capacity and more semi-trailers through the inner west  - in exchange for a passenger line which would be a very poor substitute indeed for Ron Christie's proposed metro Sydenham - Botany - UNSW - racecourse - Paddington - Taylor Square - St James.
"5814"


This goods line would be converted in additon to the proposed metro line to Malabar, not instead of it.
  Veyron407 Junior Train Controller

When was there a SW Metro?
"Rails"


Thanks for correcting me, I meant the SE metro Very Happy

The metro line to Malabar via UNSW and Kensington was, sometimes, referred to as the South East Metro.
  Veyron407 Junior Train Controller

Sorry for all the confusion about this. I forgot to state that on non-metro lines, CityRail trains will still run as normal. I am not saying that this Metro should completely eliminate CityRail, that would be a dumb move  Laughing
  cityrailgunzel Beginner

I actually think that this plan is quite good.

However, I think if this project was instated, I think that the Airport station on the Botany goods line should be connected to the underground station in some way so that passengers can transfer to those metro trains instead of riding to Marrickville to change to the Bankstown line.

Passengers would not pay $10 to transfer, they would only pay the access fee if they left the station.

Not a bad plan at all!  Smile
  cascade39 Junior Train Controller

Not exactly this but close enough...

Sydney Metro Authority
As part of the New South Wales Government’s February 2010 decision to stop work on the Metro Network stages 1 and 2, the Government announced it would compensate tenderers for major construction contracts for reasonable costs incurred.

Sydney Metro Authority established a review process to assess claims provided by all short listed tenderers. All claims by tenderers for major construction contracts were settled before 30 June 2010 at a total cost of $93.5 million.

There are a further 75 claims relating to property and leasehold owners impacted by the Government’s decision.

Sydney Metro Authority also wrote off assets of $176 million during 2009-10.

Auditor-General’s Report to Parliament 2010 Volume Three ___page__9

http://www.audit.nsw.gov.au/publications/reports/financial/2010/vol03/pdfs/total_state_sector_volume_three_2010.pdf

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