Monarto South To Appamurra

 
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

AN converted a few ex-CR NLB (ALKY) short vans for fly ash traffic. They entered traffic in 1987.  

Confusingly, they were coded AHCL like a number of former SAR covered hoppers used for cement and I believe fly ash traffic too, although the ex-CR vehicles could not have looked more different.

The conversion was conceptually similar to the AHDLs and ENHV vans but the type of hatches and chutes varied a bit, considering the rather different characteristics of the lading.  

Either the conversions were not too successful or the traffic ceased as the AHCLs were written off in 1991.

http://norm333.photoblog.org.uk/p49783281.html

Ben

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  rhino Chief Commissioner

Location: Oakbonk SA
AN were rather inventive, weren't they?

Ben, WTF is that on your avatar?
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
AN were rather inventive, weren't they?

Ben, WTF is that on your avatar?
"rhino"


Well they had a good Mechanical Engineer at the time Des Smith (Dr Smith on here). He had a very sharp mind and applied it to, as a lot of the idea's came out of his mind. Others helped to by the way, but he had to yeah or nay it.
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

AN were rather inventive, weren't they?

Ben, WTF is that on your avatar?
"rhino"





I thank my Honourable Colleague for asking me that question, Mr Speaker.

The drawing is one of the creepier relics from the annals of Australian crime history.

It is the (allegedly LSD-induced) drawing sketched by one Dr Gib Bogle for an 'art-themed' New Years party, given by Ken & Ruth Nash on 31 Dec 1962. Each guest had to create and bring a piece of art.

Gib Bogle and Margaret Chandler left the party with amorous intentions, and their bodies were discovered by Lane Cove River, naked and very dead, with no discernible cause of death, on New Years Day 1963.

The ABC screened a documentary which appeared to explain the deaths a few years ago, positing that the couple had been poisoned by an eruption of hydrogen sulphide gas from the river, a result of industrial contamination many years before. Some have cast doubt on that theory.

I first saw the drawing at the Justice & Police Museum in Circular Quay many years ago,. It sent chills down my spine, and still does.

Ben
  rhino Chief Commissioner

Location: Oakbonk SA
Wow .... just .... wow. Thanks.
  t320 Junior Train Controller

linfox only bring flyash to p-t adelaide if kalara are short of trucks, exact mix al;so bring flyash to pt adelaide.
linfox also loads flyash to roxby downs.
there are two loading points at pt agusta, one is fine grade the other is course grade they are both road loading stations, how do i know i often load from both of them.
  tractorshunter Junior Train Controller

Location: Radiator Springs
linfox only bring flyash to p-t adelaide if kalara are short of trucks, exact mix al;so bring flyash to pt adelaide.
linfox also loads flyash to roxby downs.
there are two loading points at pt agusta, one is fine grade the other is course grade they are both road loading stations, how do i know i often load from both of them.
"t320"


Thanks for the information t320
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Grain handling inquiry wins support

State Parliament will investigate grain handling in South Australia amid widespread anger from farmers over the latest harvest.

The House of Assembly has given bipartisan support for a select committee inquiry.

Farmers have complained about such things as silo closures, long waits and quality downgrades they disagreed with.

Grain handler Viterra is conducting its own harvest review.

Opposition agriculture spokesman Adrian Pederick says farmers may have lost millions of dollars and a parliamentary inquiry is warranted.

"I'm pleased that Viterra are having a look at the industry ... but I think the parliamentary inquiry will be very good at getting a good, open, independent transparent view of what's going on in the industry so that we don't have this extreme level of unhappiness right across the state," he said.

A grain grower in the Mallee hopes the inquiry will focus on more than the current problems facing growers.

Leighton Huxtable from Karoonda says anger has been building for years.

"Way back to when, prior to the amalgamation of AusBulk and the then-ABB, so there's been a lot of discontent I suppose from growers from a long way back and I suppose it come to a climax this year," he said.

"The anger is real and there are very very few supporters of Viterra I believe out there, especially in this eastern area where we think we've certainly been dealt a fairly hard blow."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/10/3159953.htm
  tractorshunter Junior Train Controller

Location: Radiator Springs
Viterra management been to the same school as Woollies & Coles??

The preverbial dairy farmer said to the wheat farmer,"Welcome to the wonderful world of deregulation."

There's also a new swear word in rural SA. It starts with a V.
  STEAMIN Station Master

Interesting.. closed or not all the track was removed and scrapped  
points included from all of Appamurra yard about 4 months ago
spoke today with contractor who removed and scrapped them and graded the yard
  2001 Moderator The Snow Lord

Location: The road jump at Charlotte Pass. Paxman Valenta on two planks.
Interesting.. closed or not all the track was removed and scrapped  
"STEAMIN"


Wha ...?!?!

Haven't heard news of this anywhere. Must have dozed off beside the grapevine.
  Guard Class 2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Elizabeth,South Australia
Interesting.. closed or not all the track was removed and scrapped  
"STEAMIN"


Wha ...?!?!

Haven't heard news of this anywhere. Must have dozed off beside the grapevine.
"2001"


Or sampled too much of the produce from the grapes   LaughingLaughing
  2001 Moderator The Snow Lord

Location: The road jump at Charlotte Pass. Paxman Valenta on two planks.
Interesting.. closed or not all the track was removed and scrapped  
"STEAMIN"


Wha ...?!?!

Haven't heard news of this anywhere. Must have dozed off beside the grapevine.
"2001"


Or sampled too much of the produce from the grapes   LaughingLaughing
"Guard Class 2"


huh ,,,uh ,,, washya mean sample whatsa where ... errr...

zzzzzzzzz...
  wresat Station Master

I don't live too far away from Appamurra, so went for a drive this morning.

I can confirm that all rails are 100% intact; nothing has been removed, all points are still in place.  Most of the rails have been covered over around the silos but I could still see in places that they are still there.

A few Pics from today.

Looking north





End of the line, northern end of the silos



Looking south

  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Interesting.. closed or not all the track was removed and scrapped  
points included from all of Appamurra yard about 4 months ago
spoke today with contractor who removed and scrapped them and graded the yard
"STEAMIN"


In light of wresat's photographic evidence may I suggest the following well know phrase next time you see the contractor you spoke to
"Tell him he's Dreamin"
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
The contractor was most probably was sort of right, but just graded the yard fill over the tracks to cover them. There is a big difference though in ripping it all up and simply covering it over though. Got to agree with Pressman though about the dreamin. Must have been a pretty vivid dream or is this from the same source as the story about the BWT being moved to Islington.

Sounds like some should give up whatever they are smoking , as it is waaaaaaaaaaay to strong for them. Laughing
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
The contractor was most probably was sort of right, but just graded the yard fill over the tracks to cover them.
"David Peters"


From wresat's photos the 'dirt' over the tracks at the loading bin is NOT fresh at all, looks rather well worn and not recent.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
My last statement might then be true Pressman. Laughing
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
I tend to refrain from commenting one peoples tobacco habits   Rolling Eyes
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
It is not tobacco that I was talking about actually. Mwa ha ha ha!
  DF4D-0130 Junior Train Controller

G'day all.

I was down at Wolseley for Christmas / New year and was on reasonable terms with a couple of the staff at the silos.  Some of the points that were made were:

Feed grain (Not sure of the quality) was allocated one cell at Wolseley.  That cell was full, nearest receival silo was Tailem Bend.

Frances was having grain sent by road to Wolseley so that it could be sent by rail to Tailem Bend.  

A train was sent to relieve pressure on the cells on the last day I was there.  I think it was 22 wagons triple headed.  ALF was the lead loco, an odd loco was second and a GM was on the back.

I agree with what has been said in this thread about the country lines not being used for grain.  Some of the ideas that have been suggested are worthy of perusal and being put under the microscope.  One about forcing rail companies to use the lines or lose the right to competition would be one worth following up on.  (A subject for a new thread...)

One other that would be worthy of being looked at is the Wolseley - Mt. Gambier line.  That for the moment has timber as well as grain to support it.  That would be a candidate for a short - medium line operator to run.  But, it would require investment at Wolseley for interchange with an increase in yard area.  Or, to have facilities in the capital cities for intermodal service.  

The other matter that has to be looked at is the silo at Cambrai, is that still used?  If so, what capacity is the silo at Cambrai?  I realize that Appamurra has been upgraded over the years to be a larger receival site but it is a curiosity thought...  

Ding.
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
well i went to monarto zoo on a family outing and i stopped to check the apamurra turnout and the mainline protector signal was bright red!!! (the one on the apamurra line just before it joins the main line) if the line has not been used since 2006 how can that globe last for 6 years. the signal is a searchlight one and they also have one of them on the port dock branch and the rosewater line shining bright red to protect the mainline. there is also a transadelaide signal just over the gawler river bridge thats also shining red to protect the mainline from the roseworthy line and beyond. why do they not just switch them off as the roseworthy, apamurra and rosewater lines have had no traffic for years and the national rail museum don't even take notice of that red signal on the port dock branch?
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

well i went to monarto zoo on a family outing and i stopped to check the apamurra turnout and the mainline protector signal was bright red!!! (the one on the apamurra line just before it joins the main line) if the line has not been used since 2006 how can that globe last for 6 years. the signal is a searchlight one and they also have one of them on the port dock branch and the rosewater line shining bright red to protect the mainline. there is also a transadelaide signal just over the gawler river bridge thats also shining red to protect the mainline from the roseworthy line and beyond. why do they not just switch them off as the roseworthy, apamurra and rosewater lines have had no traffic for years and the national rail museum don't even take notice of that red signal on the port dock branch?
Heath Loxton
Resignalling is expensive, and none of these lines are actually closed (just not used) so any hypothetical reactivation would see the immediate need for another expensive round of resignalling work.

On the other hand, capital letters, punctuation and paragraphs are not expensive. How about celebrating this freely available liberty you have and begin putting a few of them into your posts, both those you post as Heath and those you post as sulzer.
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
sulzer is a totally different profile and i do not pretend to be someone i am not. my real name is heath and sulzer is someone else with bad punctuation!!!
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
well i went to monarto zoo on a family outing and i stopped to check the apamurra turnout and the mainline protector signal was bright red!!! (the one on the apamurra line just before it joins the main line) if the line has not been used since 2006 how can that globe last for 6 years. the signal is a searchlight one and they also have one of them on the port dock branch and the rosewater line shining bright red to protect the mainline. there is also a transadelaide signal just over the gawler river bridge thats also shining red to protect the mainline from the roseworthy line and beyond. why do they not just switch them off as the roseworthy, apamurra and rosewater lines have had no traffic for years and the national rail museum don't even take notice of that red signal on the port dock branch?
Heath Loxton
Has it occured to you the signals may be LEDs - a long life and low current consumption?   Most traffic lights are LEDs and are quite bright - a few older incandesant types are around and these are usually dimmer and can be hard to see.

I concur with justapassenger: it is entirely appropriate to use capitals and it actually makes what you are saying easier to read.

Has anyone been along this branch recently?   What state is it in?   I might next week.

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