Trainsurfing at Hughesdale

 
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Found this on TheAge.com :

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/hunt-on-for-stupid-trainsurfing-teens-20110412-1dc8g.html


Three teenagers photographed train surfing in Melbourne's south-east have been labelled "stupid" by authorities who warn they are dicing with death.

The trio was caught by a keen-eyed commuter as they clung to the back of a Cranbourne-bound train at Hughesdale station last night, just after 7pm.

Inspector Philip Green from the transit safety division said the incident was being investigated after seeing the photograph taken by an Age reader.

Advertisement: Story continues below He said the teenagers were "coupling riding", which was "known for its self-evident mind-numbing stupidity".

"Every time it occurs, basically it's a death in waiting," Inspector Green said.

The passenger, who did not want to be named, said the boys were aged about 13 or 14 and had screamed abuse at him as they realised he was taking a photograph.

"Do their parents know what they're doing or what?" he asked.

He said about 20 minutes later two more teens, carrying beers, had jumped on the back of a city-bound train at the station.

Inspector Green said train surfers often rode the carriages to etch graffiti into train windows and were usually young males.

He said people had died train surfing and offenders often did not consider the impact on their family, friends and the wider community.

Metro Trains spokesman Chris Whitefield said train surfers could be fined up to $293 and face criminal charges.

"This sort of idiotic behaviour risks the safety of the people involved, and risks disrupting the travel of thousands of passengers if and when they fall off and get injured, or worse, killed," he said.

Metro is also investigating last night's incident. Mr Whitefield said people who witnessed train surfing could contact Metro on 1800 696 387.

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  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Can modifications be made to the ends on trains, that give nowhere for kids / people to stand or hang on ?

Like fitting a steeply sloping stainless steel cover over the couper ?
  Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

Location: Banned
And folks, if you see this, remember not just to photograph it and send it to The Age: press the red button on the station and give details of what you've seen.  Police can then be called and the driver notified.
  spottyrahr Chief Commissioner

And folks, if you see this, remember not just to photograph it and send it to The Age: press the red button on the station and give details of what you've seen.  Police can then be called and the driver notified.
"Sir Thomas Bent"


Don't be daft it's easier to just jump on twitter and go "Y METRO NO FIX #METRO" instead of actually alerting anyone because you know Metro is all seeing, all knowing at all times.
  Johnmc Moderator

Location: Cloncurry, Queensland
hmmm....


Don't be daft it's easier to just jump on twitter and go "Y METRO NO FIX #METRO" instead of actually alerting anyone because you know Metro is all seeing, all knowing at all times.
"spottyrahr"

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I'd still go with the red button...
  spottyrahr Chief Commissioner

hmmm....


Don't be daft it's easier to just jump on twitter and go "Y METRO NO FIX #METRO" instead of actually alerting anyone because you know Metro is all seeing, all knowing at all times.
"spottyrahr"

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I'd still go with the red button...
"Johnmc"


Exactly! If people pushed the red button and made somewhere aware it was happening at that moment something might have been done.
  SteamtoStay Chief Commissioner

Location: Building floorplates
And folks, if you see this, remember not just to photograph it and send it to The Age: press the red button on the station and give details of what you've seen.  Police can then be called and the driver notified.
"Sir Thomas Bent"

In this particular case, I have it on good authority that the photographer called Oakleigh station to report it; that's not perfect but it's almost as good.

However, having asked a few cops, I've been told that instead of pressing the red button, calling 000 is the best course of action.

It also occurs to me that if someone were to press the red button, and the people riding the back of the train had other friends still on the platform, those other people could attack you for reporting the issue.
  Speed Minister for Railways

What neither the operator nor the media mentioned is that this is something that security staff at a railway station could address.

It just takes staff at one station to see coupler-riders and the staff at the next station can remove them.

That isn't so straightforward when you press the emergency button.

It's also surprising that Whitefield wasn't reported as suggesting pressing the button if you a coupler-rider.
  Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

Location: Banned
And folks, if you see this, remember not just to photograph it and send it to The Age: press the red button on the station and give details of what you've seen.  Police can then be called and the driver notified.
"Sir Thomas Bent"

In this particular case, I have it on good authority that the photographer called Oakleigh station to report it; that's not perfect but it's almost as good.

However, having asked a few cops, I've been told that instead of pressing the red button, calling 000 is the best course of action.

It also occurs to me that if someone were to press the red button, and the people riding the back of the train had other friends still on the platform, those other people could attack you for reporting the issue.
"SteamtoStay"
I'd prefer, if you're on a station, to use the red emergency button.  Station staff can get hold of Metrol a lot quicker than a 000 call.
  SteamtoStay Chief Commissioner

Location: Building floorplates
It also occurs to me that if someone were to press the red button, and the people riding the back of the train had other friends still on the platform, those other people could attack you for reporting the issue.
"SteamtoStay"

I'd prefer, if you're on a station, to use the red emergency button. Station staff can get hold of Metrol a lot quicker than a 000 call.
"Sir Thomas Bent"

The first rule of any medical situation is to ensure that in helping someone else, you don't put yourself in danger.

I think the same principle applies here.
  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
It also occurs to me that if someone were to press the red button, and the people riding the back of the train had other friends still on the platform, those other people could attack you for reporting the issue.
"SteamtoStay"

I'd prefer, if you're on a station, to use the red emergency button. Station staff can get hold of Metrol a lot quicker than a 000 call.
"Sir Thomas Bent"

The first rule of any medical situation is to ensure that in helping someone else, you don't put yourself in danger.

I think the same principle applies here.
"SteamtoStay"


Do try thinking about it kid it is NOT a critical emergency so you DO NOT clog up 000 with crap like this. Rolling Eyes

People if you see this junk DO NOT ring 000 press the red button or grab a station staff member.
  SteamtoStay Chief Commissioner

Location: Building floorplates
Do try thinking about it kid it is NOT a critical emergency so you DO NOT clog up 000 with crap like this. Rolling Eyes
"42101"

Remember what happened when you tried to bite Meej's head off?

(By the way, I haven't legally been a 'kid' for about 9 months.)

People if you see this junk DO NOT ring 000 press the red button or grab a station staff member.
"42101"

I'm not making smeg up, I'm quoting three police officers who I've asked. If you disagree, take it up with them.

I suppose their logic is, it's a life-and-death situation therefore it's a critical emergency, so it's worth a 000 call.
  FullSeries Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
I would personally call 000, then push the red button.  It's up to the police to act on the information - but I would consider it a potential critical situation.  By calling the police you have filled your duty of care (does it apply in this situation?), and by pushing the red button you have notified Metro.  I'm sure the police would love to catch them.
  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
Do try thinking about it kid it is NOT a critical emergency so you DO NOT clog up 000 with crap like this. Rolling Eyes
"42101"

Remember what happened when you tried to bite Meej's head off?

(By the way, I haven't legally been a 'kid' for about 9 months.)

People if you see this junk DO NOT ring 000 press the red button or grab a station staff member.
"42101"

I'm not making smeg up, I'm quoting three police officers who I've asked. If you disagree, take it up with them.

I suppose their logic is, it's a life-and-death situation therefore it's a critical emergency, so it's worth a 000 call.
"SteamtoStay"


Ive pulled the wings off my mate MJJA a couple of times sport and we are still mates so dont try that smeg. Evil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad

YOU pontificate a hell of a lot on here trying to be the big look at me expert on PT and fail a hell of a lot.
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
Sorry 42101, but it is perfectly valid to call 000 in this situation - as SteamtoStay says, there is a valid threat to life.
  Via City Loop Chief Commissioner

Sitting in my car waiting at Kensington as an express went through to the racecourse packed with Future Music fesival goers I noticed at least four people standing between carriages, hanging onto parts of the carriage for what looked like their life. This was repeated between each carriage of thw six car train.

I called Metro (via 1234), they were interested, took the details, then told me to call 000 as there wasn't anything they could do. Obviously the red button goes through to a different department. I was actually suprised I got through to anyone on the sunday of a long weekend.

Never heard anything back though.
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
By calling the police you have filled your duty of care (does it apply in this situation?)
"FullSeries"

Duty of care doesn't exist for unaffiliated civilians (in any situation I might add).
  AclassGunzel Deputy Commissioner

Sure to be cannon fodder for PSO's!!
  Bobman Locomotive Fireman

Sorry 42101, but it is perfectly valid to call 000 in this situation - as SteamtoStay says, there is a valid threat to life.
"ZH836301"


To who's life? Why would you care about the surfers' lives?
  SteamtoStay Chief Commissioner

Location: Building floorplates
Why would you care about the surfers' lives?
"Bobman"

They're human.
  fabricator Chief Commissioner

Location: Gawler
And folks, if you see this, remember not just to photograph it and send it to The Age: press the red button on the station and give details of what you've seen.  Police can then be called and the driver notified.
"Sir Thomas Bent"

In this particular case, I have it on good authority that the photographer called Oakleigh station to report it; that's not perfect but it's almost as good.

However, having asked a few cops, I've been told that instead of pressing the red button, calling 000 is the best course of action.

It also occurs to me that if someone were to press the red button, and the people riding the back of the train had other friends still on the platform, those other people could attack you for reporting the issue.
"SteamtoStay"
I'd prefer, if you're on a station, to use the red emergency button.  Station staff can get hold of Metrol a lot quicker than a 000 call.
"Sir Thomas Bent"


Not to mention actually knowing the details of which train it is, something the police might find harder to find out. The point is the sooner the driver knows the sooner he can stop at a station.

But if you friend(s) has a phone with them then have them call 000 at the same time.
  heisdeadjim Chief Commissioner

Red button FTW.

Had one myself, passenger alerted that way, stopped and chased the little lovely off.
  Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

Location: Banned
Steamtostay, I kinda know what I'm talking about.
  heisdeadjim Chief Commissioner

Precisely.

Red button for emergencies only. This qualifies - go for it!!!!
  09express Junior Train Controller

Sitting in my car waiting at Kensington as an express went through to the racecourse packed with Future Music fesival goers I noticed at least four people standing between carriages, hanging onto parts of the carriage for what looked like their life. This was repeated between each carriage of thw six car train.

I called Metro (via 1234), they were interested, took the details, then told me to call 000 as there wasn't anything they could do. Obviously the red button goes through to a different department. I was actually suprised I got through to anyone on the sunday of a long weekend.

Never heard anything back though.
"Via City Loop"


Only 4, i was at the Ascot Vale rd crossing and there was no room left on any of the walkways between carriages, totally chockers with people standing there, couldnt believe it.
If anything were to happen these people wouldnt stand a chance.
Is there a valid reason as to why these doors arent locked?

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