Dual guage track

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appleby Deputy Commissioner

Location: South of the Tweed - In Canberra.

Hey guys,

can anyway shed any advice on whats available in dual guage track, for 12mm/16.5mm (HOn3.5/HO)?

 
james13 Chief Commissioner

Location: At the Skunk Works

Try here. Tillig makes some nice stuff.

 
SPSD40T2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Platform 9-3/4 and still waiting !!

most likely handlaying

HO/HOn3 is avail... not aware of anything for 3'6' as dual guage

 
allan Chief Commissioner

Europeans call H0n3.5 H0m. Tillig track is available in Adelaide, at least.

 
Johnmc - Moderator Moderator

Location: Cloncurry, Queensland

There's an old thread from 2008 which may or may not help...

http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11341436-0-asc-s0.htm

 
Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere

Tillig might be the way to go otherwise I believe it's a case of scratchbuilding.  At least with hand-built you can model the quirks of DG track which you may not find in off-the-shelf products such as the transition of the common rail to the opposite side through some pointwork.

 
SPSD40T2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Platform 9-3/4 and still waiting !!

http://www.tillig.com/cgi-bin/tillig.pl?templ=tillig-pl/index.html

there ya go Smile))

 
SA_trains Assistant Commissioner

Location: ACT

As others have said, HOn3.5 is often called HOm (for mitre gauge). Peco and Tilig make HOm track. I have a lingering suspicion that Shinohara also make HOm in addition to HOn3 track.

I have a concern with Tillig's dual gauge turnouts and that is the divergent angle (radius) of the turnout. From my recollection of the specifications is that they are about 450-500mm radius. I believe that short wheelbase locos (like a BO-BO diesel or a 2-4-0 steamer) would go through them fine. I am concerned that something longer would not.

On the commercial front, I believe that only Tilig and Shinohara are the only commercial vendors of ready to lay dual gauge turnouts in HO/HOm. Fast Tracks ( a Canadian firm) make a HOm template for building turnouts. I know that they have a template in production for dual gauge HO/HOm. this will provide you with the capability to make your own turnouts. I have built heaps of turnouts using their templates and they are great! You get a consistent high quality end product.

For the track, I'd buy ordinary HO flex track and lay a third rail. You just need three track gauges (HOm each not dual) and then you can spike or glue the rail. Why three gauges? so that you keep consistent over a length of rail.

My thoughts anyway.

good luck!

 
appleby Deputy Commissioner

Location: South of the Tweed - In Canberra.

Europeans call H0n3.5 H0m. Tillig track is available in Adelaide, at least.

- allan



Orient Express Model Railway shop right?

 
allan Chief Commissioner

Yes...

 
fairfieldqld Locomotive Fireman

Appleby:-

We have now made two exhibition layouts (Fairfield and Coorparoo) with the Tilig dual gauge product and have been extremely happy with it.  No need to buy 16.5mm and hand lay track.

As for the points they are a little harder.  As has been eluded to in other posts the tilig points are too tight for the 6 wheel bogie locos but they will go through.  We utilised the turnout for a while (16.5mm and 12mm turns off), however recently replaced it with a fastracks point that I made and much better results.

We utilise shinohara points (12mm only) in the yards with good effect, but will now utilise the fastracks jigs from now on as we have access to a dual gauge version which allows dual gauge points to be made.

Hope this gives you some first hand experience feedback.

Regards

Phil Hadley

PGC Scale Models

 
WUISKE Assistant Commissioner

G'day Phil,

Has Fast Tracks made a jig for the 12mm gauge points now? I heard about these about a year ago and was told he was "thinking" of doing a 12mm version. If hey are available now, then it is fantastic. Who sells them?

Cheers,

Adam

 
robertc Train Controller

Hi Adam, Gwydir Valley Models is the Australian agent for Fasttracks.

While I have not used their tools for 12mm I have made use of their filing jigs to do a few 32mm gauge points and they really made the job much easier and more accurate than my old home made jig.

Appleby

I think the Tillig product is still the only dual gauge option in RTR track although Shinohara and others do plain 12mm gauge. You might try the 3mm scale society  pages for 12mm gauges if you want to have a go at dual gauging some existing trackwork. Peter Betts used to supply them via AMRA for Shinohara code 70 rail section but they would be collectors items now. I guard mine jealously :>)

regards

Bob Comerford

 
fairfieldqld Locomotive Fireman

G'day Phil,

Has Fast Tracks made a jig for the 12mm gauge points now? I heard about these about a year ago and was told he was "thinking" of doing a 12mm version. If hey are available now, then it is fantastic. Who sells them?

Cheers,

Adam

- WUISKE

Adam,

Through Warren at Gwider he can place an order for whatever sort of points that you require as a special order.  The one that I have used will make any type of point (12mm, 16.5mm, dual gauge, common rail either left or right).

The whole process is very well engineered and after doing a couple they really do become quite easy.  As suggested the filling jigs is the real time saver, to getting it correct.

Regards

Phil

 

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