Frequent Un-Availability of Railpage

 
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Over the last month I have been frequently getting the "Un-Available" page when I log in through the home page or via a TRN email link.
Now those on these pages that know me will agree that I am a patient man and rarely get my back up, but the frustration levels are rapidly rising lately.
Constant interruption are fraying the nerves, so much so that I now have to take a copy of every post I make, because chances are when I click submit, Railpage will be having a private moment and the post is lost in cyberspace.
Likewise, I have noted that the posting traffic has gone rather quiet of late, are others just not bothering to post anymore because of these constant outages?

Can our Admin staff please give us an insight to what the problem or problems are and when we can see a return to normality?

Sponsored advertisement

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guys, nearly fixed. two servers have been delivered and are in the process of being brought into production. Please give us another week and the problems will be gone.

Regards
Brian
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Thanks for the quick reply Brian
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: In exile
Hi Brian,

I appreciate the provision of new servers, but the existing hardware seemed to be performing well until recently. Some years ago software upgrades to the site were mooted, but to date not much (nothing) has been evident. Are there still plans to upgrade the software?
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
The long slow but steady recovery is good.  My thanks to the team involved.  I haven't had too many outages of late but the site is typically slow to load taking upwards of a minute to serve a page.  Not that there's anything particularly unusual in that - hasn't it almost always been the case?   Wink
  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
Working well this morning.....and most early 0.530 weekdays its working ok....it has just been Arvo and Evenings my limited conection kicked in.
Brian/Team
Thanks muchly eh. Very Happy
  crusty Train Controller

Well this is my 3rd attempt to post this .....

As Pressman discussed it is very disheartening to spend 1/2 hour preparing a post to hit "Preview" & see if phooft out into the "www'.

I certainly appreciate the time, effort & cash the Railpage admin team contribute.... Very Happy


EDIT .... HOOORAY ...a post Shocked .. Very Happy ...
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The donations over the last 45 days have purchased the correct gear. The delay has been me with my work commitments.  The servers will be installed this week.
  crusty Train Controller

Thanks for the reply Brian...... most of us know what "Work commitments" involves ......Cheeeers.... Very Happy .. Very Happy
  borosa Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Thanks for the reply Brian...... most of us know what "Work commitments" involves ......Cheeeers.... Very Happy .. Very Happy
"crusty"


*THWOCK* "FORE!!!"  Laughing
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
*THWOCK* "FORE!!!"


I always wondered what happened to Fang.  
  M636C Minister for Railways

Well this is my 3rd attempt to post this .....

As Pressman discussed it is very disheartening to spend 1/2 hour preparing a post to hit "Preview" & see if phooft out into the "www'.

I certainly appreciate the time, effort & cash the Railpage Australia™ admin team contribute.... Very Happy


EDIT .... HOOORAY ...a post Shocked .. Very Happy ...
"crusty"


I often highlight a post and hit Control-C before submitting...

Then if nothing happens, you just have to save it (say in Word) and when things next look like they are working, try again...

M636C
  bowralcommuter Chief Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a Manly Ferry
I have tried my best to remain patient and not go mad when I try to post a reply or a pic and see the unavailable page. As long as it is fixed by the end of next week then I'm sure most of us will be fine with that. I hope it won't stretch out longer than that though or some people's patience may be be broken and we might lose some high quality posters.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
I have read in another thread the servers have been purchased and are on their way to the data centre.  I guess the work will now fall to how the new equipment is actually connected and made operational?

--Bill
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
I have tried my best to remain patient and not go mad when I try to post a reply or a pic and see the unavailable page. As long as it is fixed by the end of next week then I'm sure most of us will be fine with that. I hope it won't stretch out longer than that though or some people's patience may be be broken and we might lose some high quality posters.
"bowralcommuter"


I believe many of the 'high quality posters' have already been lost to the forum over the years; recently STB, Revenue has been very quiet, Chris Brownbill, Riccardo and Somebody in the WWW are some who come to mind, who are much missed.

Mike.  
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Riccardo and Somebody in the WWW are some who come to mind, who are much missed
"The Vinelander"


You must have a short memory, I seem to recall those two users posting a lot of inflammatory posts and not much of substance.
  FieldShunt74 Chief Commissioner

I don't think people leave because of the slow server.  Of those mentioned above, I reckon two "left" because the mentality of the general gunzel population gave them the scours.  Giving people with such an affliction a better feed to the source of their irritation isn't going to make them want a big group hug and a triumphal return parade.

They were interesting contributors, no two ways about it, but a new server isn't going to bring them back.
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
People move on for all sorts of reasons.

Many of our top-quality better-informed posters over the years have been employees of the various transport operators.  In many cases their online identity would not necessarily be known to their employers (though might be deduced from the content of posts) but it is often the case that employers frown upon active participation in boards such as RP.

We lost the valued input of John of Melbourne some time ago now among others, some of whom have been mentioned already.

I don't believe any of those have consciously left solely because of the service issues.  We all have lives and we move on from time to time.  Though hopefully without the "encouragement" of ones' management.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Interesting that this year traffic levels on RO have been at an all time high.

Regards
Brian
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Riccardo and Somebody in the WWW are some who come to mind, who are much missed.
"The Vinelander"


You must have a short memory, I seem to recall those two users posting a lot of inflammatory posts and not much of substance.
"Raichase"


Well, even though I was at the receiving end of venom and still am, that doesn't imply I thought some of the now departed posters didn't have something valuable to contribute.

IE, venom with info and character is more colourful, therefore IMO more interesting than bland posters without character and backbone.

One more invaluable poster, sorry Jim, you're it. Jim Betts, as Secretary of the Department of Transport was a very worthy poster until he was flamed out of existence, as he actually answered posters queries with authority and knowledge.

IMO a Q & A session with Jim, who is still Secretary would be a great idea, especially in view of the past several years and the change of government if that could be arranged. As Jim is a railfan, it's highly likely he still reads these pages.

See link from a few years ago

Mike.  
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton


They were interesting contributors, no two ways about it, but a new server isn't going to bring them back.
"FieldShunt74"


I dunno. I was never enamoured with Riccardo starting threads and then,  never participating in the threads. I witnessed him do this often.  Albeit, he posed interesting hypotheses, and after, say,  fifteen pages, they usually descended into flame-wars.

I dunno about Somebody, either. He seemed to get in the wars outside of RP and then drag them into here. Quite a few people had him lined up. He's done interesting work elsewhere, but I feel that not only he, but many others, have contributed to the burning of bridges. No Kellys Heroes there, just burning bridges.

And as for JOM, well, when he stuck to railways, he had a lot of things to say, much of which was of excellent calibre.

A lot of the problems here are caused by ignorance and people refusing to widen their vision, i.e., tunnel vision or being stuck in a fanciful past and a fantasy future. Real railway operations are confronted by change; what changes in the commercial world and in the world of mass movement of human beings has to be reflected in the mileau of railway operations in all compartments of those operations ... from infrastructure to the sale of tickets to the service philosophy that now prevails.

All aspect of railway operations are now service focussed (or ought to be) ...  and each and every activity needs to be seen in the light of such overarching objectives.

The wheel turns; note that there are many forums here on RP simply reflecting the many facets of railway operations here and overseas and in modelling and in miniature. Some are fast moving forums with high traffic, some are quiet forums, as we well know. On the other hand, consider that the 'Page is a place of reference, there are always more guests and watchers here than members posting in threads. Always.

Our younger participants need guidance, folks, not flames nor foam. And that is the responsibility of all who participate here. Human beings have inherent qualities, one of which is tolerance, another is decency.  So don't be pointing the finger and saying "That's where the mod team breaks down". In my perception, the mod team is too busy dealing with the reactions in the high turnover forums and does not have the time (nor, afterwards, the feeling of leisure) to guide the timbre of the place.  But then, that is the fault of the contributors.

And you, Vinelander? I disagree with you that there is a place for nastiness and acerbic-acidic replies here. Such acidity might be the locus of your mind, Vinelander; it is not the locus everyone else's mind.  

Things will get better, the 'Page will load faster and be more reliable. Why? Bevans and Webslave have always delivered. Just have confidence that all thing shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
I don't believe any of those have consciously left solely because of the service issues.  We all have lives and we move on from time to time.  Though hopefully without the "encouragement" of ones' management.
"Gwiwer"

I've only got so many hours in a day, and I would rather not be wasting them waiting for a web page to load. Another factor is the quality of posts these days: it seem to be all bitchfests about the same old crap, and no polite newbies asking intelligent questions worth my time answering.
  newington Chief Commissioner

Location: Here, very occasionally.
Our younger participants need guidance, folks, not flames nor foam


I think most young posters here know 1 senior poster who should take note of this advice  Wink I was a victim myself 2 months back.
"bowralcommuter"


Well, apart from whereisits, I stopped posting photos because of the ever increasing 'you were inside the fence, you young ignorant little shit' and, though it's never happened to me, some of my photos look like they were taken from a dodgy place (never ever), so, I opened a Facebook account and post photos for friends to see.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Our younger participants need guidance, folks, not flames nor foam


I think most young posters here know 1 senior poster who should take note of this advice  Wink I was a victim myself 2 months back.
"bowralcommuter"


I'd be wary of making such posts - I know a lot of "younger members" here who like to play the victim because of their age, but they usually find themself in strife because they have ignored friendly advice prior, and continued acting in such a way.

If you think you were "victimised", take it up with moderators - posting such comments here read as inflammatory, as I suspect I know who the comments are directed about. Either go through the moderators, or name the person(s) who you're talking about, but don't just pussyfoot about.
  bowralcommuter Chief Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a Manly Ferry
Either go through the moderators, or name the person(s) who you're talking about, but don't just pussyfoot about


Just a subtle suggestion for 42101. I think we should leave it as that, it's a bit off topic to the thread. If 42101 disagrees then he can PM me. Anyhow...........hopefully by the sound of what bevans has been saying we should be back to normal in a few days/a week, if anyone has left then I'm sure someone can contact them and let them know RP is good again. I liked the joke messages when RP was off for a few months last year, kept the wait comical in a way, pity they weren't used this time.   Sad

Sponsored advertisement

Display from:   

Quick Reply

We've disabled Quick Reply for this thread as it was last updated more than six months ago.