Metro now looking specifically for Female Drivers

 
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
Gday guys,

I saw this on the Metro site almost flipping off my computer chair , so here's just a snipit of what I saw on the site.

Seeking their next generation of trainee train drivers!

If you’re looking to make a change and can see yourself in the driver’s seat of one of our trains, now is the time to speak to us.   We know that men can drive, but we believe women are also smart, safe and considerate drivers.   That’s why we’re looking to even up the numbers. We’ll even provide fully paid training to show you the ropes.  

We’re interested to hear from women of all ages (over 18 years) who share a passion for people, travel and Melbourne.  You’ll be enthusiastic, well organised and have excellent leadership skills or aspirations.

So, if you’re looking for a rewarding, flexible, secure and exciting career as a train driver, for a company that is really going places, we’d love to hear from you.

We’re interested to hear from women of all ages (over 18 years) who share a passion for people, travel and Melbourne.  You’ll be enthusiastic, well organised and have excellent leadership skills or aspirations.

So, if you’re looking for a rewarding, flexible, secure and exciting career as a train driver, for a company that is really going places, we’d love to hear from you.

What about men, I think this job add has been miss-worded but they're trying to encourage more woman to apply, they need to re-word this add saying we are looking for men and women who are............

I actually found it as discrimination and saw it like a female driver round only non males like males now have to wait for the their turn, if you guys have any thoughts on this I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions.

Cheers Justin.

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  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Gday guys,

I saw this on the Metro site almost flipping off my computer chair , so here's just a snipit of what I saw on the site.

Seeking their next generation of trainee train drivers!

If you’re looking to make a change and can see yourself in the driver’s seat of one of our trains, now is the time to speak to us.   We know that men can drive, but we believe women are also smart, safe and considerate drivers.   That’s why we’re looking to even up the numbers. We’ll even provide fully paid training to show you the ropes.  

We’re interested to hear from women of all ages (over 18 years) who share a passion for people, travel and Melbourne.  You’ll be enthusiastic, well organised and have excellent leadership skills or aspirations.

So, if you’re looking for a rewarding, flexible, secure and exciting career as a train driver, for a company that is really going places, we’d love to hear from you.

We’re interested to hear from women of all ages (over 18 years) who share a passion for people, travel and Melbourne.  You’ll be enthusiastic, well organised and have excellent leadership skills or aspirations.

So, if you’re looking for a rewarding, flexible, secure and exciting career as a train driver, for a company that is really going places, we’d love to hear from you.

What about men, I think this job add has been miss-worded but they're trying to encourage more woman to apply, they need to re-word this add saying we are looking for men and women who are............

I actually found it as discrimination and saw it like a female driver round only non males like males now have to wait for the their turn, if you guys have any thoughts on this I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions.

Cheers Justin.
"justin"


I thought that it was illegal to discriminate on the basis of sex (as well as a heap of other criteria). But if it is favour of females I suppose that the green nuclear whale brigade will say its OK.

Try it the other way and see what happens.
  Beaver Locomotive Driver

There's a difference between encouraging women to apply for a specific job and making a decision to hire someone because they're a woman.  All Metro are doing is advertising in a way to make train driving appealing to women which is not illegal.
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
There's a difference between encouraging women to apply for a specific job and making a decision to hire someone because they're a woman.  All Metro are doing is advertising in a way to make train driving appealing to women which is not illegal.
"Beaver"



That's exactly right, I just saw it very differently, didn't quite get to me straight away and I've showed a few friends.
  Highrise Assistant Commissioner

Cityrail currently have an all female drivers school going through training at the moment, so there is precedence.
  FieldShunt74 Chief Commissioner

I believe it's permissible to target specific minority groups sometimes.  They may have to get permission from someone to do it though.  It's like jobs that are only open to Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islanders, it's positive discrimination to help correct a perceived imbalance.

From what I've seen, the ladies are equally likely to be good drivers as the men, but do seem to be more ambitious and/or quick to move away from driving to other duties.
  justin Chief Train Controller

Location: The Lemon Meringue Line
I believe it's permissible to target specific minority groups sometimes.  They may have to get permission from someone to do it though.  It's like jobs that are only open to Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islanders, it's positive discrimination to help correct a perceived imbalance.

From what I've seen, the ladies are equally likely to be good drivers as the men, but do seem to be more ambitious and/or quick to move away from driving to other duties.
"FieldShunt74"



Understood there but it should still be worded under men and women.
  Via City Loop Chief Commissioner

I believe it's permissible to target specific minority groups sometimes.
"FieldShunt74"


Females a minority group? 53% is a majority in my book, I presume you mean within Metro where only 4% of drivers are female.

They have an exemption from VCAT http://aap.newscentre.com.au/acci/110621/library/workplace_relations/25946570.html
  Via City Loop Chief Commissioner


Understood there but it should still be worded under men and women.
"justin"


No, they have applied for an exemption with VCAT, read see the link above. The same as gay bars only wanting men and female gyms only allowing women, it is positive discrimination.

And this
The ruling does not give Metro the right to discriminate against men during the recruitment process through the use of quotas.

Rather, it allows Metro to have female-friendly advertising designed to attract more interest from female applicants.

  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
It sounds somewhat related to one of Metro's recent advertising campaigns...
http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11361507-0-asc-s0.htm
  AclassGunzel Deputy Commissioner

I'm all for equal opportunity but getting that job just became that much harder.
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

Gday guys,

That’s why we’re looking to even up the numbers. We’ll even provide fully paid training to show you the ropes.  
"justin"


The wording makes it sound as though they never paid for training in the past, and that they're offering something extra.

Madjikthise.
  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
I'm all for equal opportunity but getting that job just became that much harder.
"AclassGunzel"


Oh yes please do explain how this has made a MALE DOMINATED workplace harder to get into for MALES???? Rolling Eyes ....women generaly dont care much for the rail industry as a job and has been explained elsewhere in this thread dont stay with it for as long a time as males do.
  tomohawk Chief Commissioner

Location: Getting The Met to get around
I'm all for equal opportunity but getting that job just became that much harder.
"AclassGunzel"

Really?
Metro can advertise for female drivers all they like, but the people they hire will still have to pass the assessment centre and be physically and mentally able to do the job, male or female.
"miss_x"


I've had a look at the relevant Vic Government gazette, and Metro have approval to run an ad targeted at women, but they must accept applications from women and men, and must treat both sexes equally in the hiring process. Basically, they have permission to run an ad targeting women, and nothing more.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I'm all for equal opportunity but getting that job just became that much harder.
"AclassGunzel"

Really?
Metro can advertise for female drivers all they like, but the people they hire will still have to pass the assessment centre and be physically and mentally able to do the job, male or female.
"miss_x"


I've had a look at the relevant Vic Government gazette, and Metro have approval to run an ad targeted at women, but they must accept applications from women and men, and must treat both sexes equally in the hiring process. Basically, they have permission to run an ad targeting women, and nothing more.
"tomohawk"


And we all know that the selection process can produce any result that management think they want on the day................. Evil or Very Mad
  Murasaki Chief Train Controller

Location: Going sideways... in carriage DET-9216 (>ω<)
Agree with responses from miss_x and tomohawk. Not being a train driver, I can still say confidently that one can't operate a train with one's genitals. Pick competent drivers, regardless of what they're packing! (^ω^)

P.S. Notice I highlighted both names in orange. No pinks and blues, or false dichotomies from this user. (òωó)

C. G. Murasaki
Androgynous Fashion Disaster
  Speed Minister for Railways

From the look of things, a fashion disaster with an eye for the guys and an eye for the girls.

PS: By "things", I mean those eyes in the coloured emoticons.
  Murasaki Chief Train Controller

Location: Going sideways... in carriage DET-9216 (>ω<)
From the look of things, a fashion disaster with an eye for the guys and an eye for the girls.
"Speed"

You're assuming a correlation of androgyny and bisexuality. For the record, I'm actually asexual.

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