An uncertain future - Seymour Railway Heritage Centre (SRHC)

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JGS - Moderator Chief Commissioner

Location: Junee NSW
It seems quite convenient, really. Lock the members out (well, those whose loyalty to the Party isn't guaranteed), make it impossible for them to rack up twelve days of volunteer work and then; "Oh, so sorry, you don't get voting rights."

Some have argued that this thread will achieve nothing. That's not the case. It exposes the whole, grotty situation to public scrutiny. When one lifts a rock and shines a torch underneath, the grotty little insects have to burrow down undercover.

People are watching, and some of those observers are able to do something about it.

Cheers,
Matt
 
Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

Location: Banned
The other thing I was thinking about following on from this, for the few tours (if any) that do run, what the status of their train staff would be? If you need to work 12 days per year to retain full membership, there obviously aren't that many tours to work on and nobody can seem to get into the workshop.
- Ballast_Plough

Which leads to the next question, with this happening will there be enough full voting members at the next AGM to constitute a qurom, and such allow the meeting to go ahead?
- T411
If you can dictate who is and isn't a full member, and you had a big enough ego to do so, you'll get a quorum.






 
EvanC Chief Plonker

Location: Bayswater, Victoria

An organisation's ranking on Google is often a very good indicator of how it intends to market itself.

So the following results are quite telling:

Also of note - in a search for simply "SRHC" or "seymour railway heritage centre", this very thread ranks at #3 (counting unique sites only).

Not really surprising, but just another point that confirms the shift in what the organisation wants to be.

 
michaelgreenhill - Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne

An organisation's ranking on Google is often a very good indicator of how it intends to market itself.

So the following results are quite telling:

Also of note - in a search for simply "SRHC" or "seymour railway heritage centre", this very thread ranks at #3 (counting unique sites only).

Not really surprising, but just another point that confirms the shift in what the organisation wants to be.

- EvanC

Rankings verified at my end. Interesting!
 
asilmaril Station Staff


SRHC are doing an outstanding job, and are in my eyes CHAMPIONS OF RAIL HERITAGE AND HERITAGE TRIPS etc by what they are doing with 'the locomotive hire' program.
- tranzitjim



I do have just one issue, which had me resign from the group only weeks ago. The news that I am not permitted to stay overnight in the depot while no one else was there, means I can not trust that option being there when I need it.
- tranzitjim


Changed your tune a bit since Page 2 of this thread?

Turns out now no one can stay in the depot overnight. 

In a dollars for doughnuts sense, paid members are not getting a very good deal for their money this year. No doughnuts at all in fact.




 
Junior Rodgie Dodgie

Location: Allansford

S303 at Seymour this week and some parts



 

 
tranzitjim Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned

SRHC are doing an outstanding job, and are in my eyes CHAMPIONS OF RAIL HERITAGE AND HERITAGE TRIPS etc by what they are doing with 'the locomotive hire' program.
- tranzitjim



I do have just one issue, which had me resign from the group only weeks ago. The news that I am not permitted to stay overnight in the depot while no one else was there, means I can not trust that option being there when I need it.
- tranzitjim


Changed your tune a bit since Page 2 of this thread?

Turns out now no one can stay in the depot overnight. 

In a dollars for doughnuts sense, paid members are not getting a very good deal for their money this year. No doughnuts at all in fact.




- asilmaril


My original impression would have been just that. It was a new rule which is valid to everyone.

I still hold to that issue of having no cheap accomodation in Seymour.

 

However, on the issue of 'Locomotive Hire'.  I do support them, as I can see the money flow as being a net benefit to both the locomotives and all other SRHC operations.

 
VBAndy Chief Commissioner

Jim, how is it a benefit to the operations when the loco hire has pushed out heritage tours? When the odd passenger vehicle exercise is run, its with vline locos.

With respect, you have no idea what you're on about. The only thing bothering you is the loss of "free" accommodation whilst you'd be in town delivering pamphlets.
 
Ballast_Plough Chief Commissioner

Location: Lilydale, Vic
Tranzitjim - your argument would be the same as saying it's more than fine for Puffing Billy to hand over all their NA's / G42 / diesels to Walhalla and subsequently stopping their own operation. But it's not a problem because the incoming rent is worth it??
 
Valvegear Minister for Railways

Location: Norda Fittazroy
However, on the issue of 'Locomotive Hire'.  I do support them, as I can see the money flow as being a net benefit to both the locomotives and all other SRHC operations.
- tranzitjim


Jim; the whole problem is that there are no other operations .  Loco hire dominates to the exclusion of all else.
 
xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
To say that hiring out of locos to raise much sought after income is one thing. No-one can deny any business the right to earn an extra dollar or 2.

But in the case of SRHC, they've made an art form out of the wholesale whoring of their fleet to the detriment of the reasons why they were set up in the 1st place, to preserve Victorian (and other states rolling stock in the interests of Victorias railway heritage. One only has to look at the declining number of tours that SRHC operates now, and the way volunteers are being treated at SRHC Seymour.

There would be no thread if SRHC concentrated on preservation first, and supplemented their income with loco hiring as a secondary business, but it seems they have become, as I have suggested in past pages, a loco prostitution service first, and a preservation group running heritage tours second. And this flies against the the label of being a preservation group that they so proudly promote as being.

It seems that they're really 'maintaining' their rolling stock under the guise of 'preservation'  to keep posession of what rolling stock the government has loaned them in the name of preservation, and to maintain their 'not-for'profit' status, so that they can make money out of whoring out out of rolling stock of the best bidder.
 
gtrtorana Train Controller

Location: VIC, former home of the best loco's in OZ
I see that SRHC have various locos that they own and some that are alocated to them from the vic gov. Is it possible that proceeds from the preserved loco hire are being spent on getting their own up and running? That way they could become a for profit company if for whatever reason they loose the right to run the heitage locos. Just a thought.
 

Location: Exit...Stage Left!

I see that SRHC have various locos that they own and some that are alocated to them from the vic gov. Is it possible that proceeds from the preserved loco hire are being spent on getting their own up and running? That way they could become a for profit company if for whatever reason they loose the right to run the heitage locos. Just a thought.

- gtrtorana

I'd say that's a fair assumption.

Most if not all of the money earned is directed into the diesel hire business. Rest assured that any money earned by say, T320 or X31 will be going towards getting locos like S310 and T382 operational again to hire out. The problem with this is that the hire market looks set to decline rapidly in the next few years, as higher horsepower locos become available to smaller operators such as El Zorro.
 
Valvegear Minister for Railways

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Perhaps the SRHC Mission Statement now reads,  "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we perish".
 
VBAndy Chief Commissioner

I fear this is going a bit too far off topic. Azza, perhaps you could start a new thread regarding 342's return to SGR?

(Yes, I know I'm not a moderator. Simply, I don't want this thread to get too far away from the core topic, in fear that we never return to it.)
 

Location: Exit...Stage Left!
I fear this is going a bit too far off topic. Azza, perhaps you could start a new thread regarding 342's return to SGR?

(Yes, I know I'm not a moderator. Simply, I don't want this thread to get too far away from the core topic, in fear that we never return to it.)
- VBAndy

Consider it done:
http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11368105.htm
All further discussion pertaining to T342; T411 et al, is to posted in the linked thread above.

Ta.
 
Valvegear Minister for Railways

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Has anyone downloaded a brochure for the next SRHC Heritage Train tour?
 
Henry Chief Commissioner

Location: Victoria
Has anyone downloaded a brochure for the next SRHC Heritage Train tour?
- Valvegear


But there isnt a tour...
 

Location: Exit...Stage Left!
I think that's the point.

If there was still volunteer involvement, there probably would have been at least three tours this year by now...

I can only see virtual cobwebs and dust gathering on that part of the $RHC's website.
 
J516 Locomotive Driver

Location: Victoria
A very interesting thread- commercial vs volunteer goals/requirements. At the end of the day if volunteers don't like the new direction or changes then there are always other volunteer organisations happy to have you onboard (unless your a gurkin). On a plus side give it time and rent a wrecks will be replaced by newer locos in the freight industry. Then a bigger problems will exist- gas axe, static display, ship to a tourist railway or drool over it. Enjoy the mainline running as it may not be there for ever.
 
Junior2 Locomotive Driver

Location: In the shadows
so how come after reading such an interesting thread, you seem to still completely miss the point? You must be one of the gurkins?
 
xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
so how come after reading such an interesting thread, you seem to still completely miss the point? You must be one of the gurkins?
- Junior2

What, on Gods earth, is a gurkin?
Do you mean either a Gurkha, or a gherkin? Confused
 
x42 Locomotive Driver

Location: NSW
Geez a T use to strugle on a pass let alone a 3000ton grain train. Can't believe these old things are allowed on the system. You don't see Qantas flying DC 3's.
 
jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
Who looks after emails for the SRHC, I've sent one to the president of the society but no reply.

Who is the appropriate authority of the SRHC that can answer questions via email?

JT
 
Junior2 Locomotive Driver

Location: In the shadows
xxxxlbear
read the post above mine, you will see it was not me that invented that term
 

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