SWRL Construction Progress

 
  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Although this sign says so,


I am surprised this is happening, despite seeing streams of construction workers going into those shops to buy things.:





 





Great wall of Glenfield


ALEXANDRA PLEFFER
04 Jul, 2012 12:00 AM

SHOPKEEPERS in Glenfield would usually be busy serving customers and making money in the morning and afternoon peak hours.
Instead, they're watching a stream of potential customers drive past with nowhere to park.

On-street parking at Railway Parade has been blocked off by a wall of fencing for construction work while the station is upgraded for the South West Rail Link.

Glenfield Cellars co-owner Sherin Sylvester said they had been without parking on and off for a year now and their customers were learning to use other roads and buy from other liquor stores.

"About 50 per cent of our sales has dropped in the past year and we've just noticed last week as well it's dropped further," Mr Sylvester told the Advertiser.

"The price of everything else is going up, so it's hard.

"I don't know how we're going to get customers back."

Co-owner Velibor Tanaskoski said he hoped they would be able to get compensation for income lost during the upgrade.

"Everything they have done has had a real detrimental impact on us here," Mr Tanaskoski said.

"We've got mortgages and loans — our lives depend on this."

Real estate owner Bill Hall agreed that something needed to be done about the lack of parking and accessibility.

"People don't know where to look if they've never been to the area," he said.

"The provision of car parking on this side of the [railway line is imperative for the future of the retail area."

Owner of Glenfield Station Take-Away Food and Delicatessen Peter Petrellis said he was seeing half the usual number of customers.

"It's dead," Mr Petrellis said.

"Before we had everything, now we have nothing."

Other shops were also hit, with sales down more than a quarter at Glenfield Newsagency and customers blaming a lack of parking.

Macquarie Fields MP Andrew McDonald said he wasn't surprised and would visit the shopkeepers to see what could be done.

"I was worried this would happen," Dr McDonald said.

"There's a fair amount of parking that's been lost and the shops do depend on a lot of passing traffic."

Campbelltown Liberal MP Bryan Doyle said there had been extensive consultation with shopkeepers.

"I think there were two options — one was to close the road down completely for a short period of time and the other was the option they went with, which was reduced on-street parking but keeping the road open."

Mr Doyle said the on-street parking should return by the end of August.










 







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  Keith1954 Junior Train Controller

Location: Macarthur
Anyone seen if those points were installed last weekend? Been going past at 0darkthirty last couple of days
"jcouch"


No they were still where they were build on Tuseday afternoon.


  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Following from the Macarthur-Campbelltown Advertiser story from above


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji6iVxATFGY&feature=plcp
  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Shelter on Platform 3 has been covered.

  Keith1954 Junior Train Controller

Location: Macarthur
I noticed this morning that track and some balast has been laided ont hte East Hils flyover (North of Glenfield).
Work is progerssing slowly on the enbankment wall.  Perhaps with drier days this will speed up.
  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Glenfield Update. Sorry for the duplicates, I can't remove them due to ongoing upload difficulties.

  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Feel free to download and zoom into this photo for greater detail
http://imgur.com/Rkayw
  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned


Transport minister and opposition MP dispute claims over cost of South West Rail Link


9 JUL 12 @ 02:55PM
 




 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejENsIhwqTU




 

THE state government and an opposition MP have united to refute claims by a transport action group that the South West Rail Link could have been built for a fraction of its price.

In a video posted on YouTube in June, EcoTransit Sydney's Gavin Gatenby compared the 11km project from Glenfield to Leppington with the 71km Mandurah Line in Perth.

The video said the Perth line, which opened in 2007, was priced at $1.22 billion, compared with the initial $1.2 billion for the South West Rail Link.

The Sydney line has since been revised to cost $2.1 billion. In the video, Mr Gatenby suggested the South West Rail Link could have been built for several hundred million dollars less.

But Macquarie Fields state Labor MP Andrew McDonald said this was incorrect.

Dr McDonald said the Perth line was for light rail while the South West Rail Link would cater for heavy rail services.

Mr Gatenby said the Perth line used narrow-gauge tracks while the South West Rail Link used standard gauge.

He said the Mandurah line had two river crossings and more tunnels than the South West Rail Link, which he said made his comparison valid.

Transport Minister Gladys Berejiklian said the project involved 11km of new twin track, two new stations at Leppington and Edmondson Park, 14 bridges and train stabling at Rossmore.

"Transport for NSW benchmarking indicates the cost of the South West Rail Link per track kilometre is comparable to other recent rail projects around Australia," Ms Berejiklian said.



  Rails Chief Commissioner

Isn't that an interesting response from the (Liberal) Government? Being politics you would expect them to slam their predecessor (Labor) as wasting money on the line, not saying it was done right!
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Isn't that an interesting response from the (Liberal) Government? Being politics you would expect them to slam their predecessor (Labor) as wasting money on the line, not saying it was done right!
"Rails"



Not 'wasting' money doesn't mean doing it cheap.

The various parts of a project are tendered out so they should be 'competative'. How those tenders are selected and managed is another matter!

Fed funding submissions require far greater detail than in the past due to the 'concern' that state guvmnt projects were poorly estimated, planned and executed. 
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
Lots of the temporary plywood fence has been takeb down on the southrn end of Glenfield platform 3/4. Looks like they may be preparing to open it up to public use soon.

Last part of the off ramp from the northern flyover has the dirt all but at track level. The new rail and ballast are  right to the end off the flyover bridge section, so maybe only a few weeks until it looks like it would be complete other than the points.

Everything on the up side is proceeding rapidly so wonder if they might be contemplating using the relief and/or flyover with the big 2013 timetable makeover
  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Glenfield Update 21/7/2012 21st July

  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
I've noticed that Glenfield Grocery has been closed down.
  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Anyone notice these?

  Crazy-D Chief Train Controller

The new station concourse is massive and kinda ugly, lol. It doesn't look like those shelters will help much on a rainy day with a some light winds.

I don't really pass there much anymore, so cheers for the progress photos.
  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
The new station concourse is massive and kinda ugly, lol. It doesn't look like those shelters will help much on a rainy day with a some light winds.

I don't really pass there much anymore, so cheers for the progress photos.
"Crazy-D"

Aren't all of CityRail's recent stations like that? New staircases and plonk a concourse/footbridge on top of the station. Sydenham and Sefton are just two examples.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
The new station concourse is massive and kinda ugly, lol. It doesn't look like those shelters will help much on a rainy day with a some light winds.

I don't really pass there much anymore, so cheers for the progress photos.
"Crazy-D"


Aren't all of CityRail's recent stations like that? New staircases and plonk a concourse/footbridge on top of the station. Sydenham and Sefton are just two examples.
"boxythingy"


Holsworthy is also pretty ugly, but I quite like it - and I'll say that Glenfield looks better than Holsworthy. That said, some stations have received very nice new forms, such as New Chatswood.
  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
The new station concourse is massive and kinda ugly, lol. It doesn't look like those shelters will help much on a rainy day with a some light winds.

I don't really pass there much anymore, so cheers for the progress photos.
"Crazy-D"


Aren't all of CityRail's recent stations like that? New staircases and plonk a concourse/footbridge on top of the station. Sydenham and Sefton are just two examples.
"boxythingy"


Holsworthy is also pretty ugly, but I quite like it - and I'll say that Glenfield looks better than Holsworthy. That said, some stations have received very nice new forms, such as New Chatswood.
"Watson374"

It is, along with East Hills, however these stations are very good as they have both ramp (they aren't steep either) and stair access. No need for lifts.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
The new station concourse is massive and kinda ugly, lol. It doesn't look like those shelters will help much on a rainy day with a some light winds.

I don't really pass there much anymore, so cheers for the progress photos.
"Crazy-D"


Aren't all of CityRail's recent stations like that? New staircases and plonk a concourse/footbridge on top of the station. Sydenham and Sefton are just two examples.
"boxythingy"


Holsworthy is also pretty ugly, but I quite like it - and I'll say that Glenfield looks better than Holsworthy. That said, some stations have received very nice new forms, such as New Chatswood.
"Watson374"


It is, along with East Hills, however these stations are very good as they have both ramp (they aren't steep either) and stair access. No need for lifts.
"boxythingy"


Functionally, they are good, even if they're concrete monstrosities - but I have a taste for brutal, stark stations like them. That is not to say that I don't appreciate the more classic St James or Sydney Terminal, of course.

I do agree that having ramps is better than having lifts, since they are mechanically much simpler. However, they do occupy more room (hardly in short supply in suburbia) and they aren't very good in winter - I once shared the lift at Holsworthy with another Asian guy, both of us using it as a sheltered waiting room of sorts. It shielded us from the freezing winds, while the glass sides of the lift allowed us to watch the indicators.

There are side benefits that aren't always obvious, but can be pretty important when you delve into them.

Do we know what the SWRL stations will look like in terms of station design?
  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned


Do we know what the SWRL stations will look like in terms of station design?
"Watson374"


Go back and have a look at the pics that I took of the Edmonson Park and Leppington construction sites. You may see that they are digging into the ground, that's where the platforms will end up down there. It will be similar to Wolli Creek (Platforms 1/2), except it won't go underground.
Like this: It's the same current trend, concourse on top, stairs linking it with platform design, except the concourse building will be at G level, whilst platforms at B. The way it's designed is to eliminate the need for stairs to go up onto the concourse and then back downstairs onto the platform.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6IAo9sp3x8&feature=player_detailpage#t=49s

  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.


Do we know what the SWRL stations will look like in terms of station design?
"Watson374"


Go back and have a look at the pics that I took of the Edmonson Park and Leppington construction sites. You may see that they are digging into the ground, that's where the platforms will end up down there. It will be similar to Wolli Creek (Platforms 1/2), except it won't go underground.
Like this: It's the same current trend, concourse on top, stairs linking it with platform design, except the concourse building will be at G level, whilst platforms at B. The way it's designed is to eliminate the need for stairs to go up onto the concourse and then back downstairs onto the platform.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6IAo9sp3x8&feature=player_detailpage#t=49s
"boxythingy"


Got it. Thanks!
  jedimasterc Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
The new station concourse is massive and kinda ugly, lol. It doesn't look like those shelters will help much on a rainy day with a some light winds.

I don't really pass there much anymore, so cheers for the progress photos.
"Crazy-D"


Aren't all of CityRail's recent stations like that? New staircases and plonk a concourse/footbridge on top of the station. Sydenham and Sefton are just two examples.
"boxythingy"


Holsworthy is also pretty ugly, but I quite like it - and I'll say that Glenfield looks better than Holsworthy. That said, some stations have received very nice new forms, such as New Chatswood.
"Watson374"


It is, along with East Hills, however these stations are very good as they have both ramp (they aren't steep either) and stair access. No need for lifts.
"boxythingy"


Functionally, they are good, even if they're concrete monstrosities - but I have a taste for brutal, stark stations like them. That is not to say that I don't appreciate the more classic St James or Sydney Terminal, of course.

I do agree that having ramps is better than having lifts, since they are mechanically much simpler. However, they do occupy more room (hardly in short supply in suburbia) and they aren't very good in winter - I once shared the lift at Holsworthy with another Asian guy, both of us using it as a sheltered waiting room of sorts. It shielded us from the freezing winds, while the glass sides of the lift allowed us to watch the indicators.

There are side benefits that aren't always obvious, but can be pretty important when you delve into them.

Do we know what the SWRL stations will look like in terms of station design?
"Watson374"



well before you say something such as this about access. You will need to consult someone who is in a wheelchair 24/7. Lucky for you I have a father and 2 uncles in such a situation as to find out if holsworthy ramps are viable. But you need lifts because some people aren't capable of pushing themselves up the ramps regardless of whether or not the ramps aren't steep.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
The new station concourse is massive and kinda ugly, lol. It doesn't look like those shelters will help much on a rainy day with a some light winds.

I don't really pass there much anymore, so cheers for the progress photos.
"Crazy-D"


Aren't all of CityRail's recent stations like that? New staircases and plonk a concourse/footbridge on top of the station. Sydenham and Sefton are just two examples.
"boxythingy"


Holsworthy is also pretty ugly, but I quite like it - and I'll say that Glenfield looks better than Holsworthy. That said, some stations have received very nice new forms, such as New Chatswood.
"Watson374"


It is, along with East Hills, however these stations are very good as they have both ramp (they aren't steep either) and stair access. No need for lifts.
"boxythingy"


Functionally, they are good, even if they're concrete monstrosities - but I have a taste for brutal, stark stations like them. That is not to say that I don't appreciate the more classic St James or Sydney Terminal, of course.

I do agree that having ramps is better than having lifts, since they are mechanically much simpler. However, they do occupy more room (hardly in short supply in suburbia) and they aren't very good in winter - I once shared the lift at Holsworthy with another Asian guy, both of us using it as a sheltered waiting room of sorts. It shielded us from the freezing winds, while the glass sides of the lift allowed us to watch the indicators.

There are side benefits that aren't always obvious, but can be pretty important when you delve into them.

Do we know what the SWRL stations will look like in terms of station design?
"Watson374"



well before you say something such as this about access. You will need to consult someone who is in a wheelchair 24/7. Lucky for you I have a father and 2 uncles in such a situation as to find out if holsworthy ramps are viable. But you need lifts because some people aren't capable of pushing themselves up the ramps regardless of whether or not the ramps aren't steep.
"jedimasterc"


Holsworthy has a lift to begin with.
  jedimasterc Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
The new station concourse is massive and kinda ugly, lol. It doesn't look like those shelters will help much on a rainy day with a some light winds.

I don't really pass there much anymore, so cheers for the progress photos.
"Crazy-D"


Aren't all of CityRail's recent stations like that? New staircases and plonk a concourse/footbridge on top of the station. Sydenham and Sefton are just two examples.
"boxythingy"


Holsworthy is also pretty ugly, but I quite like it - and I'll say that Glenfield looks better than Holsworthy. That said, some stations have received very nice new forms, such as New Chatswood.
"Watson374"


It is, along with East Hills, however these stations are very good as they have both ramp (they aren't steep either) and stair access. No need for lifts.
"boxythingy"


Functionally, they are good, even if they're concrete monstrosities - but I have a taste for brutal, stark stations like them. That is not to say that I don't appreciate the more classic St James or Sydney Terminal, of course.

I do agree that having ramps is better than having lifts, since they are mechanically much simpler. However, they do occupy more room (hardly in short supply in suburbia) and they aren't very good in winter - I once shared the lift at Holsworthy with another Asian guy, both of us using it as a sheltered waiting room of sorts. It shielded us from the freezing winds, while the glass sides of the lift allowed us to watch the indicators.

There are side benefits that aren't always obvious, but can be pretty important when you delve into them.

Do we know what the SWRL stations will look like in terms of station design?
"Watson374"



well before you say something such as this about access. You will need to consult someone who is in a wheelchair 24/7. Lucky for you I have a father and 2 uncles in such a situation as to find out if holsworthy ramps are viable. But you need lifts because some people aren't capable of pushing themselves up the ramps regardless of whether or not the ramps aren't steep.
"jedimasterc"


Holsworthy has a lift to begin with.
"Watson374"


What I mean is you need to put a lift even if you have ramps to meet 100% access capability.

So today I drove BC and watson to where the swrl goes under the m5. Also give them a more close up view of the liverpool station construction progress as well as the casula powerhouse museum. Anybody wanting to see the photos can go to "the gunzels paradise" facebook page.
  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

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