Port Lincoln notes

 
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Once grain traffic ceases this year, GWA are taking advantage of the lull and getting overhauls done on 848, 850 and 873 at the Port Lincoln EDI workshops. The gypsum trains will continue to run, as will the occasional loco transfers between Port Lincoln and Thevenard. Grain trains are expected to resume in November. How long they run next season will depend on the size of the harvest.

Sponsored advertisement

  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
How long they run next season will depend on the size of the harvest.
"pjknife"

Peter,

This also depends on the price per tonne that the farmers receive which can also impact on the length of the haulage season. I remember about 15 years ago, everything having been moved by the end of May one year, purely because of the high returns they were getting.  Conversely in other years there has hardly been a break between one season and the next with trains running up until October.

The fragmentation of the marketing side of things also has an impact - I have been told that more has been moved by road than rail this year as a result of many more grain companies seeking a slice of the action. The added cost of additional road damage is not something the brains trust at the Productivity Commission factors in when determining competition policy.
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Bing, you're absolutely correct, those factors do affect rail operations as well.

I believe that one reason for the heavy use of road transport this year and the intense shipping program earlier in the year was that Viterra wanted to get as much shipped as possible before the Glencore takeover. Port Lincoln port alone had two all-time record months in a row for grain tonnage shipped.

Cheers,
Peter
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Bing, you're absolutely correct, those factors do affect rail operations as well.

I believe that one reason for the heavy use of road transport this year and the intense shipping program earlier in the year was that Viterra wanted to get as much shipped as possible before the Glencore takeover. Port Lincoln port alone had two all-time record months in a row for grain tonnage shipped.

Cheers,
Peter
"pjknife"

Thanks I hadn't heard that angle, but it adds up.

As an aside, I've heard the Viterra name will be retained after the takeover - for political reasons Glencore prefer a degree of anonymity apparently.
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
1601 and 842 have come back from Thevenard for workshops attention, replaced at Thevenard by 1606 and 873 it seems. 848's heavy overhaul is progressing. 1604 is still out to grass, awaiting a new engine block.

Grain train operations are down to one train per weekday on average at the moment, but probably not for long.
  futuredriver Junior Train Controller

Location: Victoria
1601 and 842 have come back from Thevenard for workshops attention, replaced at Thevenard by 1606 and 873 it seems. 848's heavy overhaul is progressing. 1604 is still out to grass, awaiting a new engine block.

Grain train operations are down to one train per weekday on average at the moment, but probably not for long.
"pjknife"


Yeah I noticed 842 with her cab out on the same road at 1604 the other day.
  futuredriver Junior Train Controller

Location: Victoria
1604 has now gone into the EDI workshops and 1601 has taken its place out the back on the grass.
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
1604 is actually in front of the workshops, still waiting for its new engine block. It was moved to allow 1601 to be placed out the back where it is receiving some attention that doesn't require it being inside. Once 1601 is back in traffic, 1604 will no doubt be banished again unless its engine is ready.

842 has gone back to Thevenard, releasing 1606 which is due back in Port Lincoln on Wednesday. So for the time being, the gypo loco pool has three green 830s (842, 848 and 873) and one orange NJ (1603).

One grain train still running most weekdays.

Cheers,
Peter
  Railwayfan Train Controller

Location: By a Railway
Ian't 848 still having its overhaul?
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Isn't 848 still having its overhaul?
"Railwayfan"


You're absolutely right. Brain not functioning well!

848 is still very much in pieces. Must be 851 or 859 (both orange) at Thevenard now. Will see what's still here tomorrow.
  Railwayfan Train Controller

Location: By a Railway
Isn't 848 still having its overhaul?
"Railwayfan"


You're absolutely right. Brain not functioning well!

848 is still very much in pieces. Must be 851 or 859 (both orange) at Thevenard now. Will see what's still here tomorrow.
"pjknife"


It also believed that 850, 873 and 842? will b e overhauled soon. I can't wait to see an colours removed from the locos. What is happening to 865 and 871?
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
Though it pains me to say it near certain 865/871 will only be used as spare parts, especially 871 as AEI electrical parts for 830's are rare, as are NG 830 bogies, with quite a few sets also in use at Whyalla, pity both where good loco's
  Railwayfan Train Controller

Location: By a Railway

 
Though it pains me to say it near certain 865/871 will only be used as spare parts, especially 871 as AEI electrical parts for 830's are rare, as are NG 830 bogies, with quite a few sets also in use at Whyalla, pity both where good loco's
"alcoworldseries"


Agreed. They both were good locos. I wonder If they would sell them (the bodies).
  Railwayfan Train Controller

Location: By a Railway
Woops what I said about loco overhauls is already mentioned. Sooooorrrryyy. This on my iPod so I can't  delete it.
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
Suspect when eventually sold all that will be left will be body parts!!
  Railwayfan Train Controller

Location: By a Railway
This would be sprucing it up but would EMDs fit in them. That would pretty much be there only option left if there were to be used again.
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
865 and 871 have pretty much been reduced to shells now, with not a lot useful remaining. But having said that, I have heard it said that GWA "have plans" for them. No details known, but I would think that repowering would have to be a possible option.

Incidentally 851 is still here, so looks like 859 has gone to Thevenard.
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
Quite possible PJ, the 830's around the 50 year old mark but the frames still essentially sound so no reason why ressurection wouldn't be considered, and there are "bolt on's" on market that can boost and 830 to around the 2500 hp mark, and Fairbanks Morse are selling new and reconditioned AlCo "donks" in states.
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Time for an update. 1601 and 1606 have both had workshops attention, and should be heading out to Thevenard soon. With grain traffic almost finished, extra locos will be left at Thevenard for a while so they have a bigger pool to make up for failures etc.

1604 is back in its customary place behind the workshops, although it is now sitting on shops bogies. Its repaired engine is still some time away.

One grain train is still running approx 4 days per week, clearing the silos at Wudinna (which are being fed by road from further out). Typical power lately has been 1203/851/1204.

848's overhaul is well advanced. It was supposed to go for a test run two days ago - don't know if that happened, although I doubt it did. Still in AN green, with its unique buff-coloured cab roof. 850 should be next in line for overhaul.


  Calgully Deputy Commissioner

Location:
One grain train is still running approx 4 days per week, clearing the silos at Wudinna (which are being fed by road from further out).
"pjknife"


A question if I may.

What is the extent of grain train operations on this network?  I see that trains are currently operating to Wudinna, but there are silos further out.  Do trains operate further out at different times of year or is Wudinna now the rail head with road transport bringing it all in?  What about the other branch - is that seasonal to Kimba?
  Railwayfan Train Controller

Location: By a Railway
One grain train is still running approx 4 days per week, clearing the silos at Wudinna (which are being fed by road from further out).
"pjknife"


A question if I may.

What is the extent of grain train operations on this network? I see that trains are currently operating to Wudinna, but there are silos further out. Do trains operate further out at different times of year or is Wudinna now the rail head with road transport bringing it all in? What about the other branch - is that seasonal to Kimba?
"Calgully"


This question is best for Peter, but from my knowledge they run grainies to different times to different silos. Also I believe that the other silos are empty or there is not enough grain to make it viable to run. I think this is the case for Kimba line. I think is what it is but best leave this question for Peter as I have been in Lincoln for 8 months and I don't get to go and trace train in the peninsula but it does leave me with the yards to look upon.
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
What is the extent of grain train operations on this network? I see that trains are currently operating to Wudinna, but there are silos further out. Do trains operate further out at different times of year or is Wudinna now the rail head with road transport bringing it all in? What about the other branch - is that seasonal to Kimba?
"Calgully"


Grain trains normally operate as far as Wudinna and Kimba. Silos beyond those two are cleared by road, either to the railhead or (sometimes) all the way to Port Lincoln. Trains generally run to one of the 'strategic sites' (Cummins, Lock, Wudinna, Rudall and Kimba), dropping off smaller numbers of hoppers at one or two other silos along the way and collecting them when returning.

This year most grain has already been cleared to the seaboard and shipped, and services are about to cease until the next harvest. In other years the volume of grain is such that trains can keep running year-round.

More information can be found at http://www.peninsula-pioneer.com/railfan.html.

Cheers,
Peter


  Calgully Deputy Commissioner

Location:

More information can be found at http://www.peninsula-pioneer.com/railfan.html.
"pjknife"


Thanks for that information and link Peter.  I was over there a couple of years ago and I was impressed by the operation - or the little I was able to see of it.  I did take some pics including of 865 and 871, and from the look of them then I'm amazed that there is any consideration at all that they may have a future, great though that would be.
  Railwayfan Train Controller

Location: By a Railway
Noticed today that 1606 was running light. I think it may be going to Thevenard as Peter said.
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Overdue for an update, but better late than never.

After a break of a couple of weeks, a few grain trains have run over the last couple of weeks. The last one for the season was yesterday, with 906-873-1203 (planned for Rudall, so that's probably where it went). That's it for the 2011/12 season, but the full program of two trains per day, 7 days a week is expected to resume around the second week of November.

1601 headed out to Thevenard two weeks ago, and 848, 851 and 859 followed it earlier this week. 842 and 1603 are due back from Thevenard any time. 848 is back in service after its major overhaul, but has not been repainted. Word now is that none of the 830 repaints will happen. 850 is now in the workshops undergoing its major overhaul. 1204 has also been in the shops receiving attention for a couple of weeks.

To summarise, here is the current state of the Port Lincoln loco fleet:

873, 905, 906, 1203 operational Port Lincoln
842, 1603 returning to Port Lincoln ex Thevenard
848, 851, 859, 1601, 1606 operational Thevenard
850, 1204 in workshops
1604 awaiting completion of engine repairs
865, 871 stripped and stored

A steady stream of RSK and HNK hoppers from Whyalla is also passing through the EDI Port Lincoln workshops for re-sheeting/overhaul. Those noted in recent months include RSKs 5, 9, 15, 33 and 98 and HNKs 2 and 6. The HNKs are former SAR HN hoppers which ran for many years as dual traffic ballast and bulk grain hoppers on the Port Lincoln Division.

Hope this of interest.
Peter

Sponsored advertisement

Display from:   

Quick Reply

We've disabled Quick Reply for this thread as it was last updated more than six months ago.