Port Lincoln notes

 
  NOELWB Locomotive Driver

Is the same train pattern still the same, ie  out at 8.30 am and back according to destination. If that is the case when would the trains reach the Flinders Highway crossing and Cummins station. I realise that these times would be only notional but any info would still be very much appreciated.

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  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
FYI, see track diagrams for Port Lincoln, etc., see : http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/SACountry/GW921.pdf
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Is the same train pattern still the same, ie  out at 8.30 am and back according to destination. If that is the case when would the trains reach the Flinders Highway crossing and Cummins station. I realise that these times would be only notional but any info would still be very much appreciated.
NOELWB
I don't have the times but as an indication I can tell you that The Flinders Hwy (B100) level crossing is at 20.85kms (rail distance)(Also SA-trackandsignal has the crossing labelled as Tod Hwy)
Cummins Station is located at 67.50 kms
One map on from the link posted by awsgc24 - http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/SACountry/GW922.pdf
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Running time between Port Lincoln and Coomunga is generally around 45 minutes. All trains slow for the in-motion weighbridge at Grantham, hence the slow sectional time. Overall time Port Lincoln to Cummins is around 2 hours.
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Replacement of the London Street overbridge at Port Lincoln is now well under way. The bridge is a popular vantage point for photographing operations in the yard and to the silos, but it is now closed for six months (all being well!). The current 91-year-old bridge is being demolished, and a new one erected on the same alignment. The new one will have a wider roadway and footpath. Here was the scene yesterday as removal of the road surface, handrails etc continued. Note the covers over the tracks - the bridge contractors can only work in agreed windows, and must keep rail access open for when the grain train is here.
  Southern Aurora Locomotive Driver

Apologies if this isn't in the right thread, but if anybody can shed some light on this.. what would be the approximate times the Thevenard-Kevin Gypsum train operates to please?
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
The normal pattern for the gypo is three round trips per day 7 days a week, with the first leaving Thevenard around 4am and returning roughly 8am. Second trip as soon as the first is unloaded (usually 2 hours), and so on.

Jetty work at Thevenard has disrupted operations recently, with trains only running twice a day, 5 days a week but I believe things should be pretty normal by now.
  Southern Aurora Locomotive Driver

The normal pattern for the gypo is three round trips per day 7 days a week, with the first leaving Thevenard around 4am and returning roughly 8am. Second trip as soon as the first is unloaded (usually 2 hours), and so on.

Jetty work at Thevenard has disrupted operations recently, with trains only running twice a day, 5 days a week but I believe things should be pretty normal by now.
pjknife
Thank you PJ that's appreciated.

I noticed on Google Maps the Kevin precinct looks a little tricky to access. Guessing that would be all part of a closed off area occupied by the Gypsum company?

If so would there be points close to Kevin and perhaps Thevenard terminal that can be "legally" accessed?

Thanks again,

SA
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
The Kevin mine site is now well and truly off limits, unfortunately, secured within the last year or so because of an incident unrelated to railfans, I believe. At Thevenard though there are plenty of good views from the public roads which go around the yard on all sides.
  Southern Aurora Locomotive Driver

The Kevin mine site is now well and truly off limits, unfortunately, secured within the last year or so because of an incident unrelated to railfans, I believe. At Thevenard though there are plenty of good views from the public roads which go around the yard on all sides.
pjknife
Great information as always PJ, thankyou
  Southern Aurora Locomotive Driver

The normal pattern for the gypo is three round trips per day 7 days a week, with the first leaving Thevenard around 4am and returning roughly 8am. Second trip as soon as the first is unloaded (usually 2 hours), and so on.

Jetty work at Thevenard has disrupted operations recently, with trains only running twice a day, 5 days a week but I believe things should be pretty normal by now.
pjknife
Just one other question when you say returning roughly 8am, would that be returning into Thevenard around 8am or returning from Kevin around 8am? Many thanks
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Sorry, I should have made it clearer. That's 8am at Thevenard. All times +/- an hour or two in reality, but you can see the pattern. If you stay overnight in Ceduna, you should hear the train going out early morning. Add four hours for a rough return time past Ceduna.
  Southern Aurora Locomotive Driver

Sorry, I should have made it clearer. That's 8am at Thevenard. All times +/- an hour or two in reality, but you can see the pattern. If you stay overnight in Ceduna, you should hear the train going out early morning. Add four hours for a rough return time past Ceduna.
pjknife
Fantastic! Thanks once again PJ Laughing
  sr1180 Locomotive Fireman

Word from the locals on the weekend that the Thevenard jetty has shifted, twisting the conveyor belt and shutting down the port. Trains were still running on the weekend, but they'll quickly stop.
  bpear Station Master

Word from the locals on the weekend that the Thevenard jetty has shifted, twisting the conveyor belt and shutting down the port. Trains were still running on the weekend, but they'll quickly stop.
sr1180
Geez, you're right. Says they don't know when it will be back up and running. Hopefully its back up and running by October (which it should be) as I have a trip planned over there. :/
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Word from the locals on the weekend that the Thevenard jetty has shifted, twisting the conveyor belt and shutting down the port. Trains were still running on the weekend, but they'll quickly stop.
Geez, you're right. Says they don't know when it will be back up and running. Hopefully its back up and running by October (which it should be) as I have a trip planned over there. :/
bpear
Best to re-think your trip. As described in the Thevenard Jetty Shutdown thread, it looks like trains won't be running for possibly nine months.
  bpear Station Master

Im also going to Port Augusta, Whyalla and Tarcoola, so not seeing the gypsum trains shouldn't be too much of a big deal. Thanks PJ
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Word from the locals on the weekend that the Thevenard jetty has shifted, twisting the conveyor belt and shutting down the port. Trains were still running on the weekend, but they'll quickly stop.
Geez, you're right. Says they don't know when it will be back up and running. Hopefully its back up and running by October (which it should be) as I have a trip planned over there. :/
Best to re-think your trip. As described in the Thevenard Jetty Shutdown thread, it looks like trains won't be running for possibly nine months.
pjknife
Just asking a question here if that is the case with the jetty will trains resume running after the 9 month shut down though. This could well be the death knell of that section of the EP rail system. Not saying it will be just asking for thoughts on this subject!
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
David, the gypsum line is probably the safest part of EP at the moment. They spent a lot of money upgrading the track just a couple of years ago, and I believe GRA signed a 10 year take-or-pay contract with GWA.

Latest indications are that the shutdown may not be as long as first advised. Still nothing definite though. The train still has possibly 2 weeks of running left before the stockpile at Thevenard is full and they have to stop.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
David, the gypsum line is probably the safest part of EP at the moment. They spent a lot of money upgrading the track just a couple of years ago, and I believe GRA signed a 10 year take-or-pay contract with GWA.

Latest indications are that the shutdown may not be as long as first advised. Still nothing definite though. The train still has possibly 2 weeks of running left before the stockpile at Thevenard is full and they have to stop.
pjknife
Thanks Peter I was just wondering that is all. Thanks for the reply!
  BBattarbee Station Staff

Location: Morphett Vale
On Eyre Peninsula, is the coupling height the same as on standard gauge?
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

On Eyre Peninsula, is the coupling height the same as on standard gauge?
BBattarbee
Unless they made a special class of wagon? what makes you think it would be different?
  BBattarbee Station Staff

Location: Morphett Vale
On Eyre Peninsula, is the coupling height the same as on standard gauge?
Unless they made a special class of wagon? what makes you think it would be different?
theanimal
In Qld the coupling is at a different height. There was some thing about when they moved the 2800 class to standard gauge the difference in the wheel height was able to lift the lower coupling height to the standard gauge height.

The ends of these wagons has the frame with a 45deg bend down to the coupling. I was wondering if this was the same on standard gauge.
  BBattarbee Station Staff

Location: Morphett Vale
Narrow gauge AHGX 15 was enjoying the sunshine at Port Lincoln today. Photo taken with permission.

pjknife
The way this wagon is painted highlights that the frame is angled down at each end. This is the same on standard gauge. So possibly the frame is higher, to provide clearance for the discharge chutes, or is my speculation too far off the rails?
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
On Eyre Peninsula, is the coupling height the same as on standard gauge?
Unless they made a special class of wagon? what makes you think it would be different?
theanimal
The 830's had two coupling heights the lower one used for narrow gauge and the higher one for SG or BG. All the old meat chopper couplings were lower than SG/BG though and a lot of wagons simply got knuckles at the same height as well. These days though it might not be the same though!

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