Goodbye 3100 class?

 
  2115A Locomotive Driver

3101 / 3102 / 3103 were at Yukan yesterday with QR logos painted over and the name boards removed from 3101 and 3103.

Talk is the locomotives are going south and maybe on to Africa.

DH 72 was also being prepared to go someplace.

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  bundyfowler Train Controller

Location: Gladstone
Goodbye and good riddance I say !!!
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

Is anyone really going to miss them? Along with the 32/3/4 class locos, in my opinion, bloody ugly things, aged and decrepit. I never liked going into them in the short time we had them down our way. Because they only ran as non lead locos with us, they were always dirty grotty things internally.

They do scrub up OK as 3700s though.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Is anyone really going to miss them? Along with the 32/3/4 class locos, in my opinion, bloody ugly things, aged and decrepit. I never liked going into them in the short time we had them down our way. Because they only ran as non lead locos with us, they were always dirty grotty things internally.

They do scrub up OK as 3700s though.
"Expost"


Surprised they are not being converted to 3700's? Or is that conversion not as good as original planned?
  gsxxxr_750 Junior Train Controller

3116 is the one and only 3100 converted to a 3700 class. It's running around now as 3763 being the last one to be converted.
3700s are mainly used as second or remote loco in the Goonyella system with 3800s as the lead unit.
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

I think the 3700s are better- read better hauling capacity- than the 3800s. Why, because 3 x 3800s down here only haul 92 x 106 tonners. Throw in a 3700 instead of a 3800, and the number goes up to 100.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
3116 is the one and only 3100 converted to a 3700 class. It's running around now as 3763 being the last one to be converted.
3700s are mainly used as second or remote loco in the Goonyella system with 3800s as the lead unit.
"gsxxxr_750"


Ok thanks, I thought all 31/3200's were to be converted as part of a mid-life upgrade.
  gsxxxr_750 Junior Train Controller

All trains in the Goonyella system has to have at least one 3800 on it otherwise they can't load the whole train. Not sure if it's 7 or 9 wagons that has to be left empty, it's been awhile since been on one with 3 3700s on it.
  foxtrax Station Staff

Location: Gladstone QLD
I think the 3700s are better- read better hauling capacity- than the 3800s. Why, because 3 x 3800s down here only haul 92 x 106 tonners. Throw in a 3700 instead of a 3800, and the number goes up to 100.
"Expost"


G'day, Think back to front, Out of Callemondah ,37s 2nd or remote we seam to have max 92 wagons
All 38s can have 100 x 106 tons.   But that is not a guaranty  I have had 92 on all 38s.

A problem the 37's have is the boogies (at least told by maintainers) are original 32 33 34 etc and have had a lot of heavy plating welded to them, had heard this has a problem with cracking welds. they were meant  for lower  3500hp or whatever the 32 33 34 were, But now as a 37 there around 5500HP.
38s all new., As for driving, Air con a little noisy in side, but pull is  unbelievable, were 5x 35 at moment are running reduce power (until the over head upgrade is finished this year). require near 10 notches a lot, the 38's can run just a couple of notches, and Loaded the 35s struggle to hit 80 kph,  the 38s do it quite easy. 10000 plus ton at 80kph feels great.

The Bad ( at least my opinion)  The Noise getting on an off, or going to the loo that is at the other end is  deafening . need to ware your ear protection., When you do a Changeover  to return with both side by side,  LOL need to learn sign Language, no point talking.
You can be standing 50 or more mtrs away as one passes and you feel the air from the blowers.

I do enjoy driving them very much!
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
I think the 3700s are better- read better hauling capacity- than the 3800s. Why, because 3 x 3800s down here only haul 92 x 106 tonners. Throw in a 3700 instead of a 3800, and the number goes up to 100.
"Expost"


G'day, Think back to front, Out of Callemondah ,37s 2nd or remote we seam to have max 92 wagons
All 38s can have 100 x 106 tons.   But that is not a guaranty  I have had 92 on all 38s.

A problem the 37's have is the boogies (at least told by maintainers) are original 32 33 34 etc and have had a lot of heavy plating welded to them, had heard this has a problem with cracking welds. they were meant  for lower  3500hp or whatever the 32 33 34 were, But now as a 37 there around 5500HP.
38s all new., As for driving, Air con a little noisy in side, but pull is  unbelievable, were 5x 35 at moment are running reduce power (until the over head upgrade is finished this year). require near 10 notches a lot, the 38's can run just a couple of notches, and Loaded the 35s struggle to hit 80 kph,  the 38s do it quite easy. 10000 plus ton at 80kph feels great.

The Bad ( at least my opinion)  The Noise getting on an off, or going to the loo that is at the other end is  deafening . need to ware your ear protection., When you do a Changeover  to return with both side by side,  LOL need to learn sign Language, no point talking.
You can be standing 50 or more mtrs away as one passes and you feel the air from the blowers.

I do enjoy driving them very much!
"foxtrax"


Great feedback, do you know why they did not upgrade all the 31/32's.
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

Driving the 3700/800s certainly has grown on me. Yep heaps of power, DB fantastic, but yep, the noise is pretty drastic. Heading through one to the loo, I wear earplugs then earmuffs over the top. I have yet to drive one light engine, but looking forward to it when it happens.  I just wish they would get continuity with all the locos with the headlight switches. I much prefer the toggle switch top row middle with the ball, instead of the rotary switch to the left near the remote idle switch.  AC could also do with work, not just noise, but vents not operating properly- not closing or adjusting- but also the permenantly open vents on top.

I will stand corrected on my last post, I will have to check next time I am at work.
  Hugh1620 Junior Train Controller

What are they doing with DH 72 ?
  bundyfowler Train Controller

Location: Gladstone
Driving the 3700/800s certainly has grown on me. Yep heaps of power, DB fantastic, but yep, the noise is pretty drastic. Heading through one to the loo, I wear earplugs then earmuffs over the top. I have yet to drive one light engine, but looking forward to it when it happens.  I just wish they would get continuity with all the locos with the headlight switches. I much prefer the toggle switch top row middle with the ball, instead of the rotary switch to the left near the remote idle switch.  AC could also do with work, not just noise, but vents not operating properly- not closing or adjusting- but also the permenantly open vents on top.

I will stand corrected on my last post, I will have to check next time I am at work.
"Expost"


Don't forget the annoying (if not potentially hazardous to the ears) alarm system for Station Protection and Vigilance......that needs to be toned down. Also something done about the line under voltage you get at speed over crossovers where the MCB opens.....that is just a bit annoying more than problematic, otherwise they are great machines to drive.
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

Driving the 3700/800s certainly has grown on me. Yep heaps of power, DB fantastic, but yep, the noise is pretty drastic. Heading through one to the loo, I wear earplugs then earmuffs over the top. I have yet to drive one light engine, but looking forward to it when it happens.  I just wish they would get continuity with all the locos with the headlight switches. I much prefer the toggle switch top row middle with the ball, instead of the rotary switch to the left near the remote idle switch.  AC could also do with work, not just noise, but vents not operating properly- not closing or adjusting- but also the permenantly open vents on top.

I will stand corrected on my last post, I will have to check next time I am at work.
"Expost"


Don't forget the annoying (if not potentially hazardous to the ears) alarm system for Station Protection and Vigilance......that needs to be toned down. Also something done about the line under voltage you get at speed over crossovers where the MCB opens.....that is just a bit annoying more than problematic, otherwise they are great machines to drive.
"bundyfowler"


I have seen a number of 3800s come out this way with a loo roll and TSR positioned to reduce the volume of the vig/spd alarm. Not that I would do it, because it could be seen as interfeering with a loco safety system Rolling EyesRolling EyesRolling Eyes and of course, we cant have that.

Apparently when changing loco to loco, isolate and pan down also works. Again, I would never do something like that.

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"Expost"


That's what you tell everyone... WinkMr. Green
  A7EL Station Master

Location: At my desk
I was told that the South Africans were amazed at the kitchen on the 38's when they had a look! 
  petey3801 Chief Commissioner

Location: On the rails
3101/02/03 are headed to Fisherman Islands in the near future (ie; next week), I imagine for shipping to places-other-than-here.
  bundyfowler Train Controller

Location: Gladstone
3101/02/03 are headed to Fisherman Islands in the near future (ie; next week), I imagine for shipping to places-other-than-here.
"petey3801"


Or an artificial reef in Moreton Bay Laughing
  walhallarail Locomotive Fireman

DH72 has been sold to the Walhalla Goldfields Railway and will travel south to join its sister DH37 [delivered to Victoria in November 2010] in the near[ish] future.
  cuthbert Train Controller

3101, 3102 and 3103 at Acacia Ridge;

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  walhallarail Locomotive Fireman

What are they doing with DH 72 ?
"Hugh1620"
It's been sold to the Walhalla Goldfields Railway and will re-gauged to work in the mountains in Victoria for many years to come.
  cuthbert Train Controller

DH72 has been sold to the Walhalla Goldfields Railway and will travel south to join its sister DH37 [delivered to Victoria in November 2010] in the near[ish] future.
"walhallarail"


What has this to do with the 3100 class locos going to South Africa?
  walhallarail Locomotive Fireman

DH72 has been sold to the Walhalla Goldfields Railway and will travel south to join its sister DH37 [delivered to Victoria in November 2010] in the near[ish] future.
"walhallarail"


What has this to do with the 3100 class locos going to South Africa?
"cuthbert"


You'll note that in the origin of this thread there is the statement...."DH 72 was also being prepared to go someplace." We provided an answer, hence why it's here.
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

These photos illustrate just how miniscule the 3100 Class actually are

3102 with Transnet 36-211 Maydon Wharf Durban on Sunday

Photos 20/21/22 http://sarconnecta.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/ex-qr-national-locomotives-arriving-in.html

36-211 is a Transnet SW1002 shunting/transfer loco http://sarconnecta.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/ex-qr-national-locomotives-arriving-in.html


  2115A Locomotive Driver

3104 and 2122f were sitting in Yukan yard this morning. 3104 has the QR logo painted out.

8 of the 3100 class that were stored in the Wagon Maintenance Facility have been moved over to the Locomotive Servicing area.

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