One wonders how the government will try and justify using a relatively small diesel train on a path that could be used by an electtric train carrying far more passengers to Southern Highlands commuters. The Bathurst run won't even be commuters.
Good to see Westmead on the stopping pattern, will be useful for those attending the health care facilities dotted around there.
Governments don't have to justify anything, & thats the big problem, it has happened in the past & will happen in the future on both sides of the polilitical spectrum.. If nothing else, & I have no real liking for this government nor coalitions of the past as they started the main rot in NSW with Shirley & the PTC, Labor over the years have carried a simlar tradition though, but in slightly different ways. The primary difference has been that the Coalition has usually been more favourably inclined towards the people in the Bush, except the days when people like the then Tamworth & Armidale members shafted their constituants with the killing of the NT line, including Pax services by government policies that kept empty seats all the way.
Given that the seat of Bathurst has been one that has swung over the years but more traditionally labor the present mob has the seat now, & this may be a cheap way of shoring up votes, but maybe its also a test case for rural NSW, by the government giving sway to the voices wanting PT in the bush to be returned, & in this way saying "here it is" But also having without publicly saying "use it or lose it" has been done in the past.
In this case they may also look at other country calls for changes, & the MBWH line issue as well as the Dubbo service reverse running as well.
I still do not believe that this train should seriously affect any existing freight services owing to its timings that sit pretty well within the curfew times. If there is any problems & if its shown to be caused by any main western line trains, then perhaps they could look at putting back in place some of the single line tracks that were created by removing the duplicated 2nd line, could be done in stages, doing one section at a time.
You missed my point totally (fairly typical for you though) - Southern Highlands commuters can't get a direct train service, because it has been decreed that the path that the direct Central - Goulburn train used was better utilised by an 8-car electric train, carrying a much larger number of commuters. And these are commuters, every day of the week passengers.
Now we have a path on the Western line, which *could* be used for an 8-car electric train, being dedicated to a diesel railcar, carrying far fewer passengers, and they are NOT commuters, they are day-trippers to Sydney (and I am not decrying day-trippers, it could be for any reason, medical appointments, legal appointments, whatever).
I am just pointing out the incongruity between the government saying that Southern Highlands commuters don't deserve a direct service, as the path could be better utilised by an electric, but occasional Bathurst users deserve a direct service, in spite of the path it uses being better utilised elsewhere.
Apologies for that, would like to ask why you think its typical of me, as I try to cover as many bases as possible, having worked & lived in both Sydney, with around half in Sydney & the other in the bush I can see both sides of the various issues & not just one side, but yes I think the SH should have a direct service, especially if the numbers are there. Likewise what is interesting is that the Bx service will likely be CR controlled but within a CR area, if I understand things correctly.
When the Highlands had the direct services to the City, they also terminated in Sydney Terminal thus a train change, but how many suited the City worker for pre 0900 arrival? Of what percentage of the Highlands services are based on City commuters against day travellers such as the Bx service is to provide?
There are questions in regards to both of these owing to population & general accesibility to Sydney, what distances are there as well, as well as stopping patterns. With trains connection at Campbeltown for Highlands commuters are they getting under the existing service a better/faster train into the city than before? I am basing this on the fact I do not know the numbers of commuters off the Highlands as reading other threads on similar issues throw up different numbers. Thus if the services are two car & distance is considered, & despite inconvenience of a change in trains it is a bit different to the Bx service.
The worst of the Bomaderry services is the short isolated non electrified section south of Kiama, but at this point of time is there justification for electrification to go ahead? Not a topic I think in this thread as its been discussed in others.
So going around the circle, I would say that there is a valid point though in asking why the BX service is not a connecting ETR service at Lithgow but, what does the 2 car set do for the rest of the day, run emptier shuttles to BX & back?