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chonnaigh Station Master

Location: drysdale Vic

Apologies if this is not the right forum.

Question- I have an old VR padlock with 'SS' on the back.

Now I recall ST (Signals & Telegraph" and WW (Way and Works) etc but can anyone remember what 'SS' was?

I is 'moulded' into the lock body, not engraved so couldnt be simply a station name abbreviation  for example 

Got me stumped. Anyone know?

 
warzy7 Chief Train Controller

perhaps Spencer Street ?

 
Ballast_Plough Chief Commissioner

Location: Lilydale, Vic

The old VR keying system was along the lines of:

1P - General purpose & basic use. e.g. Yard gates, locks on toilet doors, etc.

5P - Safeworking key - signalling apparatus, etc.

7P - Signal fitters equipment, relay cabinets, etc.

SS - Also used for signal equipment maintained by signal fitters.

 

The first 3 were standard Lockwood type locks / keys, the SS padlocks were slightly smaller and used for bits of equipment that needed smaller locks. Not entirely sure what the SS stood for or why it deviated from the other numbering system but hope that provides a bit of background.

 
chonnaigh Station Master

Location: drysdale Vic

Thanks for that- Cheers

 
Lad_Porter Chief Train Controller

Location: Yarra Glen



The old VR keying system was along the lines of:

1P - General purpose & basic use. e.g. Yard gates, locks on toilet doors, etc.

5P - Safeworking key - signalling apparatus, etc.

7P - Signal fitters equipment, relay cabinets, etc.

SS - Also used for signal equipment maintained by signal fitters.

 

The first 3 were standard Lockwood type locks / keys, the SS padlocks were slightly smaller and used for bits of equipment that needed smaller locks. Not entirely sure what the SS stood for or why it deviated from the other numbering system but hope that provides a bit of background.

- Ballast_Plough


I don't doubt the general accuracy of this list, but I think perhaps there is more to it?  For example, I have noticed that toilet doors and yard gates in some locations have 5P locks.

 
Bullucked Chief Train Controller



The old VR keying system was along the lines of:

1P - General purpose & basic use. e.g. Yard gates, locks on toilet doors, etc.

5P - Safeworking key - signalling apparatus, etc.

7P - Signal fitters equipment, relay cabinets, etc.

SS - Also used for signal equipment maintained by signal fitters.

 

The first 3 were standard Lockwood type locks / keys, the SS padlocks were slightly smaller and used for bits of equipment that needed smaller locks. Not entirely sure what the SS stood for or why it deviated from the other numbering system but hope that provides a bit of background.

- Ballast_Plough


I don't doubt the general accuracy of this list, but I think perhaps there is more to it?  For example, I have noticed that toilet doors and yard gates in some locations have 5P locks.

- Lad_Porter



I think you'll find 5P replaced the one 1P locks as the 'general purpose' lock. Many locks are dual 1P/5P where either key will work.
As an aside to the above, the 'V' series keys are to be phased out in the next couple of years. (Don't remember the exact timeline)

 

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