RL diesel locomotive details

 
  jimhy Station Master

Location: Orange,NSW,Australia
Hi all,

I am trying to source roof plans or details for RL diesel locomotives. An extensive search across the web has located plenty of photos but none show the top very clearly. If anyone has information, photos or links it would help me a great deal. I am currently building one in 3D Crafter and have a side and end plan but nothing for the roof.

Thanks in advance,

Jim.

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  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Hi all,

I am trying to source roof plans or details for RL diesel locomotives. An extensive search across the web has located plenty of photos but none show the top very clearly. If anyone has information, photos or links it would help me a great deal. I am currently building one in 3D Crafter and have a side and end plan but nothing for the roof.

Thanks in advance,

Jim.
"jimhy"

Why don't you see if you can take one yourself?
  jimhy Station Master

Location: Orange,NSW,Australia
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Why don't you see if you can take one yourself?[/quote]

Yes thanks for that railblogger, next time one comes through Orange I will get a few shots.

Jim.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
"jimhy"

Why don't you see if you can take one yourself?[/quote]

Yes thanks for that railblogger, next time one comes through Orange I will get a few shots.

Jim.[/quote]
Ok...how often do they come? Perhaps it might be worth going somewhere else?

BTW you should probably ask the owner if they will allow you to take pics first.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned


Why don't you see if you can take one yourself?
"railblogger"


Yes thanks for that railblogger, next time one comes through Orange I will get a few shots.

Jim.
"jimhy"

Ok...how often do they come? Perhaps it might be worth going somewhere else?

BTW you should probably ask the owner if they will allow you to take pics first.
"railblogger"


Why would you need permission to take a photo of an RL if you are lineside?

That has to be one of the most stupidest replies to a request I have seen in a long time. The issue with copyright which you alude to is not about modelling a loco, but using a company's logos without permission. It also has to do with stealing somebody's modelling efforts; re-skinning it and passing it off as your own.

Sorry Jim, I can't really help you with your request. I haven't seen an RL since 2008, and I didn't really get a good shot of it. I just didn't see the point in what railblogger was suggesting, and can't understand why he bothered.

Perhaps he's had one too many cans of Victoria Bitter, and needs to lay off a bit.
  jimhy Station Master

Location: Orange,NSW,Australia

Sorry Jim, I can't really help you with your request. I haven't seen an RL since 2008, and I didn't really get a good shot of it. I just didn't see the point in what railblogger was suggesting, and can't understand why he bothered.

Perhaps he's had one too many cans of Victoria Bitter, and needs to lay off a bit.
"Barrington Womble"


Thanks for that Barrington Womble. I was a bit peeved when I first saw the response, hence the slight sarcasm in my reply.

I have had 3D Crafter for quite a while but now I am retired am finally putting the hours and days into learning it. I have plans from the CFCLA site and lots of photos which give me most of the imformation that I need, it is just the roof detail that is lacking. I have got the fans in place but cannot quite make out exhaust and other detail. I will just have to go down to the railway and stand in the middle of the track and wait until an RL comes through, then stop him and ask him if it is alright if I take a few snaps. But with the current weather with a wind chill of -2 I will probably be dead within a few minutes and not have to worry about anyway.

Regards,

Jim.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.

Sorry Jim, I can't really help you with your request. I haven't seen an RL since 2008, and I didn't really get a good shot of it. I just didn't see the point in what railblogger was suggesting, and can't understand why he bothered.

Perhaps he's had one too many cans of Victoria Bitter, and needs to lay off a bit.
"Barrington Womble"


Thanks for that Barrington Womble. I was a bit peeved when I first saw the response, hence the slight sarcasm in my reply.

I have had 3D Crafter for quite a while but now I am retired am finally putting the hours and days into learning it. I have plans from the CFCLA site and lots of photos which give me most of the imformation that I need, it is just the roof detail that is lacking. I have got the fans in place but cannot quite make out exhaust and other detail. I will just have to go down to the railway and stand in the middle of the track and wait until an RL comes through, then stop him and ask him if it is alright if I take a few snaps. But with the current weather with a wind chill of -2 I will probably be dead within a few minutes and not have to worry about anyway.

Regards,

Jim.
"jimhy"

I apologise if it has annoyed you. I was merely trying to make a suggestion, since I read in your first post that you couldn't find what you wanted on the web. I had no idea it would be too hard for you to go out and get one.

Not all companies may allow you to take photos of their assets, so it's worth finding out first.

Also don't go and stand in the middle of the track as it is a) dangerous and b) it appears you need a roof shot, so it would do you no good.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Sorry again if this is annoying but I found a picture on this page which shows the roof of RL302, and I thought this might help to some extent.

The image is in the bottom left hand corner of the pics section. RL302 is the loco furthest from the camera.
  jimhy Station Master

Location: Orange,NSW,Australia
Sorry again if this is annoying but I found a picture on this page which shows the roof of RL302, and I thought this might help to some extent.

The image is in the bottom left hand corner of the pics section. RL302 is the loco furthest from the camera.
"railblogger"


Thanks for that Railblogger, and no this is not annoying. I had already seen that particular picture but because of the angle it does not show enough detail between the fans.

My reason for posting a request is that no matter how many different ways we might attempt a search (and believe me over the last few weeks I have tried many different permutations) somebody else will look at a situation from an entirely different perspective, and that is what I was attempting.

Once again, thanks anyway.

Jim.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Sorry again if this is annoying but I found a picture on this page which shows the roof of RL302, and I thought this might help to some extent.

The image is in the bottom left hand corner of the pics section. RL302 is the loco furthest from the camera.
"railblogger"


Thanks for that Railblogger, and no this is not annoying. I had already seen that particular picture but because of the angle it does not show enough detail between the fans.

My reason for posting a request is that no matter how many different ways we might attempt a search (and believe me over the last few weeks I have tried many different permutations) somebody else will look at a situation from an entirely different perspective, and that is what I was attempting.

Once again, thanks anyway.

Jim.
"jimhy"


That's ok. Given the limited resources you have, may I suggest you estimate the distance between the fans? After all, only those with an eagle eye will be able to spot the difference.

Once again, apologies for what I said earlier.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Jim,

Have you tried searching through peoples photos on Flickr?

I found this (not my photos), which may be of some use to you:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/catchpoints412/5278715052/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/catchpoints412/5364453513/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/catchpoints412/5365066068/


Have a look - you may find what you're after.

Cheers
  jimhy Station Master

Location: Orange,NSW,Australia
Sorry again if this is annoying but I found a picture on this page which shows the roof of RL302, and I thought this might help to some extent.

The image is in the bottom left hand corner of the pics section. RL302 is the loco furthest from the camera.
"railblogger"


Thanks for that Railblogger, and no this is not annoying. I had already seen that particular picture but because of the angle it does not show enough detail between the fans.

My reason for posting a request is that no matter how many different ways we might attempt a search (and believe me over the last few weeks I have tried many different permutations) somebody else will look at a situation from an entirely different perspective, and that is what I was attempting.

Once again, thanks anyway.

Jim.
"jimhy"


That's ok. Given the limited resources you have, may I suggest you estimate the distance between the fans? After all, only those with an eagle eye will be able to spot the difference.

Once again, apologies for what I said earlier.
"railblogger"


Railblogger,

You do not have to keeep apoligising. With the help of the side plans I have already installed the fans, as per my previous post there is not enough detail between the fans. There is an exhaust and another item on the roof, it is those details that I am trying to get more information on. I have been able to scale everything else from the plans and photos that I already have, only resorting to a request on the forums when I cannot locate sufficient detail elsewhere.

Regards,

Jim.






  jimhy Station Master

Location: Orange,NSW,Australia
Jim,

Have you tried searching through peoples photos on Flickr?

I found this (not my photos), which may be of some use to you:

Have a look - you may find what you're after.

Cheers
"Barrington Womble"


Thanks for that.

Yes, I have looked through thousands (no exaggeration) of photos on Flickr amongst others, but, ironically the ones that you have shown I did not have in my file. They are on a par with others I have, but, every extra picture can sometimes provide that little bit of extra detail, hence the request for other eyes.

I still regularly do different searches (how many different times can you say the same thing in a different way to invoke a different answer from the search engine) but I will also try different search engines over the next few days to try and widen the results.

Regards,

Jim.


  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Got it.
  jimhy Station Master

Location: Orange,NSW,Australia
Jim,

Have you tried searching through peoples photos on Flickr?

I found this (not my photos), which may be of some use to you:

Have a look - you may find what you're after.

Cheers
"Barrington Womble"


Thanks for that.

Yes, I have looked through thousands (no exaggeration) of photos on Flickr amongst others, but, ironically the ones that you have shown I did not have in my file. They are on a par with others I have, but, every extra picture can sometimes provide that little bit of extra detail, hence the request for other eyes.

I still regularly do different searches (how many different times can you say the same thing in a different way to invoke a different answer from the search engine) but I will also try different search engines over the next few days to try and widen the results.

Regards,

Jim.

"jimhy"


Further to my above comments I revisited Flickr and viewed the images in their original size, once enlarged on my 101cm TV that I use as a monitor I am able to get enough detail to complete the model.

Once again thanks for your help.

Regards,

Jim.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
No worries Jim.

I look forward to seeing some screenshots in the not too distant future! 8)
  jimhy Station Master

Location: Orange,NSW,Australia
No worries Jim.

I look forward to seeing some screenshots in the not too distant future! 8)
"Barrington Womble"


I have done some roof detail and am now working on the couplers, then I hope to start the textures. I will then attempt a trial of the textures to try and get it into the sim.

So stay tuned, but don't hold your breath there is a long way to go yet.

Regards,

Jim.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
No worries Jim.

I look forward to seeing some screenshots in the not too distant future! 8)
"Barrington Womble"


I have done some roof detail and am now working on the couplers, then I hope to start the textures. I will then attempt a trial of the textures to try and get it into the sim.

So stay tuned, but don't hold your breath there is a long way to go yet.

Regards,

Jim.
"jimhy"

I've built quite a few models for MSTS (all early VR steam, some still are not finished), so I understand exactly what you're saying.

When it's ready is what I should have said.
  jimhy Station Master

Location: Orange,NSW,Australia
No worries Jim.

I look forward to seeing some screenshots in the not too distant future! 8)
"Barrington Womble"


I have done some roof detail and am now working on the couplers, then I hope to start the textures. I will then attempt a trial of the textures to try and get it into the sim.

So stay tuned, but don't hold your breath there is a long way to go yet.

Regards,

Jim.
"jimhy"

I've built quite a few models for MSTS (all early VR steam, some still are not finished), so I understand exactly what you're saying.

When it's ready is what I should have said.
"Barrington Womble"


Well I have finally got to the stage where I can show you some pictures.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/84376390@N05/7947840530/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/84376390@N05/7947840384/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/84376390@N05/7947840252/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/84376390@N05/7947840100/


I have still got the sounds and cab to go but the loco is running in MSTS with the number boards and side reflectors showing at night.

Hopefully in the not too distant future it will be available for human consumption, then I will be re-skinning in CFCLA and QUBE.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
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