The whereabouts of the AN class locos

 
  MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera
Huh.
The One Nation Program which resulted in the guage conversion of Melbourne to Adelaide was an initiative
of the then Paul Keating Labor Govt,between 1991 and 1996.

National Rail Corp had nothing to do with it.
Why blame them?

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  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
AN's 11 and 9 were seen heading onto Kooragang Island with a mix of containers and sailboat fuel today at around 15:00.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
AN's 11 and 9 were seen heading onto Kooragang Island with a mix of containers and sailboat fuel today at around 15:00.
Shacks

Was the sailboat fuel contained in postholes or was it loose?
Either way, I hope it was on the back.
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
The sailboat fuel was loaded onto some of the flat wagons.

8110 was leading AN's 11 and 9 today, the train number is 1421. Saw it at Warrabrook / South Fork.
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
Think the ANs are going to be redeployed back to Intermodal to replace the 93s that are going to Coal.
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
They are having cab refits to bring them up to Intermodal standards for lead units .
Some 93s are rumoured to be going to Northern Coal though how many and when is not certain .
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
AN11 and AN9 are both at Tighes Hill today. http://www.railpage.com.au/sightings/latest/
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
They are having cab refits to bring them up to Intermodal standards for lead units .
Some 93s are rumoured to be going to Northern Coal though how many and when is not certain .
BDA


At least six and ASAP Razz
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Would be awesome to see AN's lead in the Adelaide Hills if true. Very Happy
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
Would be awesome to see AN's lead in the Adelaide Hills if true. Very Happy
greasyrhys


It's on the table.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
What sort of trains would the AN's be likely to be used for? Would it be the shorter runs like MC2/CM3 and the Patricks or would they be just as likely to be found on the other intermodal jobs as well?
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Still going to have the pre historic desk top and 30A brake valve antiques .
Be interesting to see if a high mileage 710 and a bit less tank is going to fit in with repowered NRs range wise .
Intermodals issues appear to be lack of range with 93s , blame Sydney Trains backwards standards for that , and the consistent failures with the inline fuelling systems .
93s sometimes don't give good fuel consumption in high speed service and I reckon it's because they are geared to pull big loads at lower speeds . Intermodals schedules don't allow for crawling around at 20 km/h even with 1700+ tonnes an engine , the specs say maximum continuous tractive effort of 525 Kn and I've seen them do 500 at 20 km/h . Needs to be 500 at more like 28 to 30 km/h .
Like a DC unit an AC would load its traction motors higher in the medium speed ranges if the gearing was taller and IMO give better fuel consumption because of it . And no doubt still out drag the alternative 130+ tonne 3-4000 Hp DC units . Need a "Fast Forty" upgrade here . 93s like 92s are slugs at 90+km/h , all revs and noise with SFA Nm's to pull with . Probably fine if 60-80 is the norm like in coal service .  
Other rumors circulating - like the NRs on Bulk trains not coping too well with low speed loading/tipping .
And rumors of the two TTS on the Tahmoor's going back home .
Supposedly PN trialling a few CF44s on something down south .
I hear that 82s are going different places nowdays and it makes me wonder how long the 81s small tank and consumption will be tolerated .
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
I wonder if an AN could be trialled on The Overland if they are going to be used to lead? Would be a great sight. Smile
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
AN9 and AN11 ran the containerised coal train into Mountain Industries at Kooragang last night. This train is now using NQJF wagons, formerly coded NQFF.
It used to be a Qube operation, normally 2 units out of C, VL, or 1100 class with mostly CQBY, CQJY and LQAY wagons.

Cheers, Matt.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
BDA can you tell us what a "fast Forty" upgrade is please.  I'm guessing its a higher geared locomotive suited to intermodal like some of the US operators had or have???
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
Fast forty- http://www.utahrails.net/articles/up-fast-forties.php
Eventually converted back to normal forty.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
AN6 was picked up at Tailem Bend by WP2 today, was the 3rd loco.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
AN6 was in between 2x 93's on 3MP7 today, would've done the whole Melbourne-Adelaide trip.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Many thanks EFB5800. Most informative.
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
A couple of recently painted ANs are on WM2 atm , think the trailing one was 8 .
  trainlover Assistant Commissioner

Location: Adelaide.
A welcome back to SA for AN11 arrived in Islington on 2MA5 tuesday morning back up the Hills to Tailem bend on 3AB6 now heading back to Islington on 3MA5 What with AN6 around some days between Melbourne and Islington thats 2 ANs here now so the Bulk side of Pacific national doesnt need them anymore?.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Definitely interesting that some AN's are starting to return to SA. Sadly neither AN6 or AN11 have led into SA since returning, given they have the same power as those annoying nr's, the AN's deserve to be treated the same regardless of crew comfort!
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
the AN's deserve to be treated the same regardless of crew comfort!
greasyrhys

Do you even read your posts? Why should crew, who are on the train for 8-12 hours at a time, work from a less than ideal workspace just so you can stand at the side of the tracks grabbing your nether regions?
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
the AN's deserve to be treated the same regardless of crew comfort!
greasyrhys

Umm, locomotives don't have feelings you know... Rolling Eyes
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Sorry for asking, thought the AN's had roomy cabs. But are some still being upgraded to allow them to lead intermodals, or was this just another rumour?

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