Revenue Chief Commissioner

Would it be better to take way the off-peak fares for regional areas and replace them with the better fares which are calculated the same way as Melbourne fares?
"melbtrip"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that's what will happen when myki is introduced onto V/Line.
"railblogger"


No, off-peak fares will remain for trips of three or more zones (all in the fares and ticketing manual).

I think the real question is how long will it be before this is extended to metropolitan. No plans for it at this stage, but one of the deliverables for myki was always the ability to deliver off-peak fares in Melbourne.

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  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
In my previous posts I talked about the difficulties associated with making changes to the current functionality of the ticketing system due to the contractor's inability to deliver software in an appropriate timeframes. 
"Revenue"


To translate from Publicservantese into English: We couldn't change the way the system works because the contractor was late with the software.


  Revenue Chief Commissioner

In my previous posts I talked about the difficulties associated with making changes to the current functionality of the ticketing system due to the contractor's inability to deliver software in an appropriate timeframes.
"Revenue"


To translate from Publicservantese into English: We couldn't change the way the system works because the contractor was late with the software.

"Valvegear"


If only that was the case! I think it might be more accurate to say, not only were they late, but they haven't yet delivered everything they were suppose to and that there are concerns about their ability to do other changes.  It isn't just a question of running late, but of their capability.
  melbtrip Chief Commissioner

Location: Annoying Orange

It isn't my role to defend every decision related to myki and I object to the implication that it is
"Revenue"


Wow. You do a great job for an amateur.
You're an expert only when it suits you, aren't you?

"Valvegear"
I share knowledge and insights when asked politely.
"Revenue"


Can you please explain why Melbourne zone 1 and 2 single and day fare are calculated as the following:

two hours (single fare) = 7 day pass /10
daily cap = 7 day pass /5

and country fares are not?

Would it be better to take way the off-peak fares for regional areas and replace them with the better fares which are calculated the same way as Melbourne fares?

An example of the new fare structure is place below


"melbtrip"
Periodical tickets are heavily discounted on V/Line - which means that the weekly cap can be reached in about three days of travel. In order to fix this you would need to increase the price of periodical tickets, which is unlikely to occur. The alternative, to reduce the cost of the single and daily cap, would decrease revenue and would reduce V/Line prices below appropriate levels. There are no plans that I am aware of to revise V/Line pricing.
"Revenue"



Periodical tickets are not heavily discounted on V/Line and fact the single and daily fares so expensive I know people do not use V/Line because of this and they decide to drive  instead of using public transport.

V/Line fares compared to City Rail are expensive.

The most a person wishing to travel from Central to Newcastle (168.10 km) on a new smart card is going to pay is $15.00.

I give a fare structure isfair and reasonable.


Why should a person from Nar Nar Goon pay $19.20 for a daily cap travel to Melbourne and back in peak time and which is 162% for travelling 7 km more compare to person Melbourne to Pakenham and which pays only $11.84?

At worst person from Nar Nar Goon should only be paying an extra zone top of the person paying at Pakenham and which only cost around about $4.00 more!

So bases on this the fare should have been from Nar Nar Goon to Melbourne should be around $15.76 at maximum fare and not $19.20

The $12.80 daily fare is more reasonable for person travelling to and from Nar Nar Goon to travel to Melbourne compare to the current fare of $19.20.

There is no weekly cap under myki!

  SteamtoStay Chief Commissioner

Location: Building floorplates
In my previous posts I talked about the difficulties associated with making changes to the current functionality of the ticketing system due to the contractor's inability to deliver software in an appropriate timeframes.
"Revenue"


To translate from Publicservantese into English: We couldn't change the way the system works because the contractor was late with the software.

"Valvegear"
If only that was the case! I think it might be more accurate to say, not only were they late, but they haven't yet delivered everything they were suppose to and that there are concerns about their ability to do other changes. It isn't just a question of running late, but of their capability.
"Revenue"

In your personal opinion, do you think that in retrospect it was a mistake to give them the contract, as opposed to someone else?
  Revenue Chief Commissioner

It isn't my role to defend every decision related to myki and I object to the implication that it is
"Revenue"


Wow. You do a great job for an amateur.
You're an expert only when it suits you, aren't you?
"Valvegear"
I share knowledge and insights when asked politely.
"Revenue"


Can you please explain why Melbourne zone 1 and 2 single and day fare are calculated as the following:

two hours (single fare) = 7 day pass /10
daily cap = 7 day pass /5

and country fares are not?

Would it be better to take way the off-peak fares for regional areas and replace them with the better fares which are calculated the same way as Melbourne fares?

An example of the new fare structure is place below


"melbtrip"
Periodical tickets are heavily discounted on V/Line - which means that the weekly cap can be reached in about three days of travel. In order to fix this you would need to increase the price of periodical tickets, which is unlikely to occur. The alternative, to reduce the cost of the single and daily cap, would decrease revenue and would reduce V/Line prices below appropriate levels. There are no plans that I am aware of to revise V/Line pricing.
"Revenue"



Periodical tickets are not heavily discounted on V/Line and fact the single and daily fares so expensive I know people do not use V/Line because of this and they decide to drive  instead of using public transport.

V/Line fares compared to City Rail are expensive.

The most a person wishing to travel from Central to Newcastle (168.10 km) on a new smart card is going to pay is $15.00.

I give a fare structure isfair and reasonable.


Why should a person from Nar Nar Goon pay $19.20 for a daily cap travel to Melbourne and back in peak time and which is 162% for travelling 7 km more compare to person Melbourne to Pakenham and which pays only $11.84?

At worst person from Nar Nar Goon should only be paying an extra zone top of the person paying at Pakenham and which only cost around about $4.00 more!

So bases on this the fare should have been from Nar Nar Goon to Melbourne should be around $15.76 at maximum fare and not $19.20

The $12.80 daily fare is more reasonable for person travelling to and from Nar Nar Goon to travel to Melbourne compare to the current fare of $19.20.

There is no weekly cap under myki!
"melbtrip"


Quite right, there is no weekly cap - I meant a seven day pass.

There are many people who argue for cheaper fares. PClark has made the case for fares to be higher previously on this forum.
I don't think the fares are that expensive. The Nar Nar Goon person you mentioned above has a number of benefits not available