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bevans - Administrator Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Hi,

I am working with a networking team in Adelaide who have agreed to allow us access to their network for the purposes of installing 1 or 2 railcams in the Adelaide area.

The only question is where would the best position for these cameras be as I need to provide some feedback to the adelaide network guys who do not have an interest in trains and railcams.

Please post replies which have a google map link or equivilient so we can start work on this please.

Regards
Brian
 
vlocity160 V/Gunzel

Hi, I am working with a networking team in Adelaide who have agreed to allow us access to their network for the purposes of installing 1 or 2 railcams in the Adelaide area. The only question is where would the best position for these cameras be as I need to provide some feedback to the adelaide network guys who do not have an interest in trains and railcams. Please post replies which have a google map link or equivilient so we can start work on this please. Regards Brian
- bevans
I don't live in SA but after being there a couple of times my first thought was Keswick (Pronounced Kesick from memory. i.e. The W is silent). There is the GSR terminal and from memory the main interstate line to Melbourne passes through this area. As for where you would put the camera etc. I have no idea. Just my two cents Smile
 
justapassenger Chief Commissioner


If you only have two, I would suggest one at a station on the Belair line and one at a Gawler line station between Greenfields and Salisbury.

The Belair line gets you Adelaide-Melbourne freight, GWA grain trains and daily Overland services on the standard gauge line plus DEMU metro passenger trains on the broad gauge.

Putting it further up in the hills after Belair would "filter out" the DEMUs - perhaps you could approach the private owners of the former Mount Lofty Station at Stirling which operates as a B&B and has the occasional short service or track machines stop on the short passing loop there. It's at the "summit" of the line so all trains are moving slowly at that point, and being a fairly long and steep incline to get there guarantees a good mix of locos, especially if GWA have to get their old ones out to boost the numbers on grain trains.

I believe the former Aldgate Station is also now privately owned (or council owned, not sure) and used as a community centre, they could be worth talking to if Mt Lofty doesn't come through.

A Gawler line station would be more difficult as all the stations are owned and operated by the state Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure (operator of metro trains and stations) but the reward would be a mix of Adelaide-Perth and Adelaide-Darwin freight, the Indian Pacific and Ghan on the standard gauge, plus the Penrice stone trains and Gawler line DEMU services on the broad gauge. It could also have a double function as an "extra" security camera which might be enticing for DPTI and could allow it to be mounted on the same tall poles the security cameras are on.

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Keswick would be a waste. The interstate running lines are on the opposite side of the interstate passenger terminal to where the passenger platforms are, so you would be restricted to seeing one or the other.

 
dawesybj Chief Train Controller

Location: Morphett Vale Sth Australia



Hi, I am working with a networking team in Adelaide who have agreed to allow us access to their network for the purposes of installing 1 or 2 railcams in the Adelaide area. The only question is where would the best position for these cameras be as I need to provide some feedback to the adelaide network guys who do not have an interest in trains and railcams. Please post replies which have a google map link or equivilient so we can start work on this please. Regards Brian
- bevans
I don't live in SA but after being there a couple of times my first thought was Keswick (Pronounced Kesick from memory. i.e. The W is silent). There is the GSR terminal and from memory the main interstate line to Melbourne passes through this area. As for where you would put the camera etc. I have no idea. Just my two cents Smile
- vlocity160


for the south line Belair station or mt Lofty station would be a good spot as there a still station building on both platforms with the mt lofty one being a bed a breakfast place and belair as the old signal cabin.

for north line only place i could think of would be port augusta stn but that isn't in adelaide.

 
justapassenger Chief Commissioner


The former Mount Lofty and Aldgate stations can both be found (labelled as stations) on this map - http://goo.gl/maps/1g2JI


The section between Greenfields and Salisbury can be found (zoom in for labels) on this map - http://goo.gl/maps/gygfR





 
K-Class Chief Train Controller

Location: Melbourne

I think one on the south line somewhere between Keswick and Belair so that both Metro and interstate movements can be seen.

For the second I think somewhere to the north of the SCT depo.

With these two locations you would see all freight movements into and out of Adelaide except for the Penrice stone train. If You were to get the Stonie locating the camera at the northern end of dry creek north yard.

Matt

 
pigeon Locomotive Driver

Location: Looking for a decent photo location...

I think the best location for a webcam would be one which gives a similiar view from the Port Wakefield Rd bridge at Cavan. A camera in a similiar position, facing south-west, would allow people to view locomotives in the Dry Creek Motive Power Centre, and see lash-ups being moved from the MPC under the bridge into Dry Creek North as trains consists are put together, plus any south line grainies would be seen departing (along with Aurizon PM services). On top of that, it would capture all standard gauge movements heading into/out of Adelaide from the Western mainline, plus metro trains on the Gawler, and the broad gauge 'stonie'.

A second camera in the same position, but facing North, would give a great view of Dry Creek North yard, which is where GWA grain train consists are put together. Such a camera would be a great heads-up for chasers. A quick view of the webcam would indicate if a grainy was due out soon, as generally the locomotives will transfer from the MPC to Dry Creek North well before departure.

 
Thornaby Chief Train Controller

How about somewhere at Kilburn so as it could cover the train lines as well as the freight yard? No idea how to put up a grid ref though.
 
justapassenger Chief Commissioner




How about somewhere at Kilburn so as it could cover the train lines as well as the freight yard? No idea how to put up a grid ref though.

- Thornaby


The question there is of which area to focus on. You could have a lovely panorama getting in everything, but being zoomed out like that would get you no detail whatsoever.

I would suggest going for locations which allow a better focus and don't sacrifice detail - like the station building at Mt Lofty or Aldgate. What makes the Bunbury St camera good, in my opinion, is that it's not "just another webcam" but that it's in a spot where details can be gained without having to place workers under constant surveillance.

Placing a camera looking over a freight terminal might be unpopular with both the workers on the ground and the management, being a very different beast to a camera set up to take photos of trains as they go past. If some outside party decided to place me under constant surveillance in my workplace I would be pissed off enough to consider using a green laser pointer or a simple mirror on a sunny day to stop it.

 
trainweld Train Controller


My Family owns the property adjacent to Blackwood Station, we would be happy to put one up and even help do the install.

Smile
Cheers

 
bevans - Administrator Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
My Family owns the property adjacent to Blackwood Station, we would be happy to put one up and even help do the install.
Smile
Cheers
- trainweld

That would be wonderful. I will contact you off forums on PM and we can look at the location.

Regards
Brian
 
justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I would just like to recommend that location as offered by trainweld - so long as the exact spot it has a good view of the line it should be an excellent location that will get all Adelaide-Melbourne freight traffic, the Overland, occasional track machines or hi-rails and plenty of local DEMU services on the broad gauge line as well.
 
GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
What about setting up a camera near the Goodwood flyover? That way you might be able to cover the new electric trains, DMUs, GSR, freight trains and possibly even the trams.
 
bevans - Administrator Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
What about setting up a camera near the Goodwood flyover? That way you might be able to cover the new electric trains, DMUs, GSR, freight trains and possibly even the trams.
- GeoffreyHansen


The Adelaide project is progressing. If this is deemed a good idea and I can't tell other than what is in the post then we would need a google placemark please so we can understand the placement.

Regards
Brian
 
witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus

What about setting up a camera near the Goodwood flyover? That way you might be able to cover the new electric trains, DMUs, GSR, freight trains and possibly even the trams.
- GeoffreyHansen
The Adelaide project is progressing. If this is deemed a good idea and I can't tell other than what is in the post then we would need a google placemark please so we can understand the placement. Regards Brian
- bevans


http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=Goodwood+Railway+Station&hl=en&ll=-34.95282,138.585856&spn=0.003252,0.004823&sll=-34.985965,138.701955&sspn=1.176902,2.469177&t=h&hnear=Goodwood+Railway+Station&z=18

It maybe possible to mount to council street lights, or use the swimming centre which is closed for 5 months of the year to look over the fence.

 

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