3830 Trials

 
  hellraiser Chief Train Controller

Location: Newcastle, NSW
Any word on how the trials went for 3830.

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  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
It has Just been Reported on Trains Down Under on Facebook that 3830 Will not be Making an Appearance at Steamfest! - Can anyone in the Know Verify this or not??

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  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
3016 From the ARHS ACT is Set to make her Steamfest Debut

https://www.facebook.com/notes/hunter-valley-steamfest/steam-engine-3016-makes-its-steamfest-debut-in-2013/10151613041959257

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  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Also from that link, it seems that 3830 won't be running around before September...
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

According to the Maitland Mercury at http://www.maitlandmercury.com.au/story/1414597/canberra-express-for-3830-locos-replacement/?cs=171, states "For the first time steam locomotive 3016 will chug into Maitland from its Canberra home."
Apart from when it was in normal service, is that correct, that it's 3016's (or should we really be saying 3016T?) first time to Maitland?
  Fireman Dave Chief Commissioner

Location: Shh, I'm hiding
There's a fair chance 3016 has NEVER been to Maitland. It certainly hasn't since it was preserved, and I don't think she was ever allocated to any of the Newcastle area depots while in regular traffic.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
There's a fair chance 3016 has NEVER been to Maitland. It certainly hasn't since it was preserved, and I don't think she was ever allocated to any of the Newcastle area depots while in regular traffic.
Fireman Dave
In the steam era it could have passed through Maitland on its way to branchline service out in the regional areas past Werris Creek etc or the Murwillumbah line? You would need its service history to know.

A side question; did branchline steam locos usually return along the mainline after overhaul light engine or hauling a load?
  TheFish Chief Train Controller

Location: Pyongyang

A side question; did branchline steam locos usually return along the mainline after overhaul light engine or hauling a load?
petan
I don't know how common this practice was but I have seen a photo of a 23 class double heading on a mainline train on the short north with a mainline engine circa late 1930's/early 40's to work it's way back out west after an overhaul.
  a6et Minister for Railways

In the steam era it could have passed through Maitland on its way to branchline service out in the regional areas past Werris Creek etc or the Murwillumbah line? You would need its service history to know.

A side question; did branchline steam locos usually return along the mainline after overhaul light engine or hauling a load?
petan

A good source to find locomotive allocations is in the Byways of steam books, as there is a fair few depot histories in them, for later days the depot allocation book that covers the period from July 64 - 72 has a good listing there.

I have seen allotment listing for 3016 in almost all the depots around the rural areas, including Moree, Dubbo, West Tamworth, Parkes, Mudgee, Dubbo, Temora, Junee, Cowra & Enfield.

The working of branch line engines to & from Workshops often depended on whether traffic was heavy, & the time period. Steam transfers to the west over the Blue Mountains were always by LE, after electrification, no matter the type of engine, on the North, engines worked trains as well as went LE from the Metro area to Gosford & then worked trains from Gosford.

On the South, I remember in 1966, 3014, after workshops attention, worked 331 goods from Enfield to Gouburn a very unusual working, while a few years later, the standard goods engines that had auto's fitted to the front buffer beams went both LE,  & some worked trains, to Glbn.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
A good source to find locomotive allocations is in the Byways of steam books, as there is a fair few depot histories in them, for later days the depot allocation book that covers the period from July 64 - 72 has a good listing there.

I have seen allotment listing for 3016 in almost all the depots around the rural areas, including Moree, Dubbo, West Tamworth, Parkes, Mudgee, Dubbo, Temora, Junee, Cowra & Enfield.

The working of branch line engines to & from Workshops often depended on whether traffic was heavy, & the time period. Steam transfers to the west over the Blue Mountains were always by LE, after electrification, no matter the type of engine, on the North, engines worked trains as well as went LE from the Metro area to Gosford & then worked trains from Gosford.

On the South, I remember in 1966, 3014, after workshops attention, worked 331 goods from Enfield to Gouburn a very unusual working, while a few years later, the standard goods engines that had auto's fitted to the front buffer beams went both LE,  & some worked trains, to Glbn.
a6et
Thanks a6et for answering both the questions; the areas it worked and the transfer after overhaul procedure  Laughing

Therefore 3016 could have traveled through the Maitland area in its NSWGR days to or from Moree and West Tamworth.
  a6et Minister for Railways

Thanks a6et for answering both the questions; the areas it worked and the transfer after overhaul procedure  Laughing

Therefore 3016 could have traveled through the Maitland area in its NSWGR days to or from Moree and West Tamworth.
petan

No worries Petan.  I did a check in the last years allocation list & it shows 3016 being allocated to Cowra from 64 onwards, & was the last steam loco there, even though the allocation changed to Bathurst it was still based at Cowra.

I will check the last Byways, that has articles on Narrabri & Moree, I am sure that its mentioned as working in the region, prior to the 48cl arriving in the NW. WCK had at least 4 Superheated 30T's allocated there for the Barraba line working for several years even after the 48's arrived/
  JoeT Assistant Commissioner

So, what's with these rumors I'm hearing that after a successful first trail 3830 was lit-up with a somewhat less-than-full boiler for her second trail now has cracked stays and rivets all around the firebox?
  SJB Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Nothing more than rumor, there are some minor boiler issues to be addressed from what I hear but it was uncovered during the trials, no foul play whatsoever.
  JoeT Assistant Commissioner

I thought that might be the case. Damn those buffs and their rumors!!!
  Tuscan Junior Train Controller

Location: Sydney, NSW
Leaks from some of the crown stays that weren't replaced. Wasn't picked up in the hydro due to crud and rust sealing the cracks. But while under heavy working on the loop trials this build up was knocked off, leaking water into the firebox.

Photo of one of the stays at fault - credit to the photographer.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=593661587334252&set=o.193276790692755&type=1&theater
  7006 Locomotive Driver

Leaks from some of the crown stays that weren't replaced. Wasn't picked up in the hydro due to crud and rust sealing the cracks. But while under heavy working on the loop trials this build up was knocked off, leaking water into the firebox.

Photo of one of the stays at fault - credit to the photographer.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=593661587334252&set=o.193276790692755&type=1&theater
Tuscan

More money and time, how long before it is back into full service?
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
Suggest return to service timetable will now be dependant on the boiler inspector, now one stay has proven to be defective and not picked up during hydro, I'd suggest a far more extensive testing/proving of remaining stays will need to be carried out. Not a 5 minute job!
  7006 Locomotive Driver

Suggest return to service timetable will now be dependant on the boiler inspector, now one stay has proven to be defective and not picked up during hydro, I'd suggest a far more extensive testing/proving of remaining stays will need to be carried out. Not a 5 minute job!
alcoworldseries

The question is will the funding hold out for a detailed inspection and possible boiler removal?
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
Will let some one closer to funding source try to answer that but would lay odds, that funding a bit like the piece of string as to how (long) much. Boiler lift may not be neccessary, again dependent on the boiler inspector.
  TheFish Chief Train Controller

Location: Pyongyang
Will let some one closer to funding source try to answer that but would lay odds, that funding a bit like the piece of string as to how (long) much. Boiler lift may not be neccessary, again dependent on the boiler inspector.
alcoworldseries

If the problem is the crown stays what is the need for a boiler lift?
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
7006 raised the issue of possible need to lift, lets hope this isn't the case, crown stays a big enough job in itself.
  anzac1959 Chief Commissioner

Whats happening with 3830 atm?
  MC3801 Train Controller

There is another update on 3830's restoration on the 38 Class Facebook Page.

https://www.facebook.com/nswgrc38class
  NSWGR 3827 Deputy Commissioner

Location: South of the Border
There is another update on 3830's restoration on the 38 Class Facebook Page.

https//www.facebook.com/nswgrc38class
MC3801

I would not call it a Restoration, more like running Repairs.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
I would not call it a Restoration, more like running Repairs.
NSWGR 3827
Perhaps a major overhaul? I agree, restoration is probably the wrong term, as she's already been "restored", it's just a matter of keeping her in good nick. Regardless of nitpicking terminology, we all agree that they're worth it Smile.

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