Boat People - where to now!

 
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Couldn't help yourself Laughing
Groundrelay

I had a quick think about, and decided it was an easy enough task since I could recall the dates. Had I had to look up the dates I wouldn't have bothered.

But don't break out that Grange just yet Razz
Groundrelay

It's a terrible wine, and frankly, having polished off several bottles in my life I find it quite over rated and very underwhelming. I rate their Bin 289 higher, and I have several mates with wineries that do a far better collection of reds. That said, I am a fan of dry whites, Chennin and (NZ) Sauvignon Blanc specifically.

This 'war' isn't over. Australia will continue to be a magnet for people looking for a better or just safer life.
Groundrelay

Presuming it's the 'safer' I am happy to take them, the former can go home.

When NATO pulls out from Afghanistan there will be plenty of people with the will and the money to come here. In that next 'battle' would you treat them like allies or enemies ?
Groundrelay

Neither, I would see them treated as normal people, if they're genuinely endangered bring them over, issue a TPV with the conditions enforced, an cancel the TPV when no longer required. If they come here for social benefit, not fleeing danger then turn them back.

Economic migration is not evil, nor bad, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone to apply for such through channels, have prior approval before departure and bring a verifiable, transferable skill of some demand or other significance. Those coming for an economic reason without these and dressing one's self as a persecuted person should be afforded no sympathies.

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  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Is it just me or do a lot of these leftie groups think poor people should be allowed into rich countries just because they are poor and desire a better life?
PaulAustin


Everyone who came here (except convicts) were looking for a better life Exclamation
  CraigW Assistant Commissioner

Everyone who came here (except convicts) were looking for a better life Exclamation
cootanee


That is and was by controlled programs and schemes.

Craig W
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
That is and was by controlled programs and schemes.

Craig W
CraigW

And typically invited.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
"Prime Minister Tony Abbott has postponed a trip to Indonesia next week, and concerns about an asylum seeker operation under way north of Australia is believed to be behind the decision."
au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/national/a/23162147/pm-postpones-trip-to-indonesia/

Seems a bit extreme. No details about the boat because of the secrecy.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
"Prime Minister Tony Abbott has postponed a trip to Indonesia next week, and concerns about an asylum seeker operation under way north of Australia is believed to be behind the decision."
au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/national/a/23162147/pm-postpones-trip-to-indonesia/

Seems a bit extreme. No details about the boat because of the secrecy.
cootanee

He doesn't want to embarrass the Indonesian President by being there when a boat gets returned to the fishing village it came from.

Only detail we need is that a boat load of people on an Indonesian fishing boat is returning to Indonesian waters.

What is the current score this year:  Aust 10, Smugglers 0?  

Seems Sri Lanka scored overnight too.  Boat load of people wanting to move to Australia have been returned.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
That said, I am a fan of dry whites, Chennin and (NZ) Sauvignon Blanc specifically.
Aaron

For a moment there, I thought you were a serious wine lover. Sauvignon Blanc from New Zealand put paid to that notion. The stuff should be used as paint stripper or automatic transmission fluid.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
For a moment there, I thought you were a serious wine lover. Sauvignon Blanc from New Zealand put paid to that notion. The stuff should be used as paint stripper or automatic transmission fluid.
"Valvegear"
What because AU Sauvignon Blanc is oh so good in comparison? Nepenthe, now that is true paint stripper... Marlborough Savvy is regarded by many (including me) to be some of the best going.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
What is the current score this year:  Aust 10, Smugglers 0?  
"Donald"
11, nil actually. Since turn back began, it's 16, 2 or 17, 1 depending on how you look at it. Those numbers not including the vessel about to land on Bambang's doorstep.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
What because AU Sauvignon Blanc is oh so good in comparison?
Aaron

Being the best Sauvignon Blanc is like being the best type of measles.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
He doesn't want to embarrass the Indonesian President by being there when a boat gets returned to the fishing village it came from. ...
Donald


It would be a perfect opportunity for him to explain how he saved one of their fishing boats.Idea

Anyway Donald you don't have a clue Rolling Eyes

"Mr Abbott gives no official explanation for cancelling the visit"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-03/labor-demands-abbott-explain-reasons-behind-cancelled-trip/5428278

Abbott's just gutless. Easy to hide behind contrived secrecy and blame the navy for mistakes. Evil or Very Mad

Mind you Libs can't even get their BS straight. Abbott just realised the budget is coming up. Shocked
"Finance Minister Mathias Cormann says the federal budget is a good enough reason for Mr Abbott to remain in the country.
'The prime minister is obviously very focused on his responsibilities here in Australia, 10 days out from our first budget,' he told Sky News on Saturday."
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2014/05/03/pm--too-busy--with-budget-for-bali-trip.html
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Who cares why he isn't going to Indonesia, maybe he just woke up one morning and thought 'Meh, the weather in Jakarta is smeg this time of year, I'll just go later'. Hell it's not as though Bambang is beating a path to Australia for a visit. International diplomatic trips get made and cancelled all over the world everyday, nothing unusual, moving right along now.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Being the best Sauvignon Blanc is like being the best type of measles.
"Valvegear"
At the risk of going right OT, you'd prefer Chittonay?
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
For a moment there, I thought you were a serious wine lover. Sauvignon Blanc from New Zealand put paid to that notion. The stuff should be used as paint stripper or automatic transmission fluid.
Valvegear

Tried that, it stuffed up me Falcon....
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Well a Falcon no wonder, now if it had been a bogan mobile (Holden) it would not have missed a beat! LaughingLaughing
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
11, nil actually. Since turn back began, it's 16, 2 or 17, 1 depending on how you look at it. Those numbers not including the vessel about to land on Bambang's doorstep.
Aaron

I feel so much safer now Razz
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Who cares why he isn't going to Indonesia, maybe he just woke up one morning and thought 'Meh, the weather in Jakarta ...
Aaron

Ironic that the conference was about Open Government. Last place Abbott would want to be. Razz

... International diplomatic trips get made and cancelled all over the world everyday, nothing unusual, moving right along now.
Aaron

They couldn't even get their stories straight. Laughing
If anyone from the other side of politics pulled this BS, your lot wouldn't be as understanding Rolling Eyes

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