Melbourne cup Southern Auroa

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Rodjenks Beginner

Location: Geelong

I see that the NSW RTM are running a train to the Melbourne Cup from Sydney

It has a stop over in Geelong on Monday 4th November.

I presume they will use North Shore for passengers  off/on

Does anyone know hot to obtain a timeline of the Geelong stop and where it will be stabled while here ?

Thank

Rod

 
QSB6.7 Train Controller

If it is stopping in Geelong, it can only be at North Shore.

If it is a long consist it will have to stop several times (think Overland) as the platform is very short.

 
 
ethansx49 Chief Train Controller

Location: Warrnambool

Thanks for the link Impulse-Rail I hope get the train at Geelong but it all depends on my Tafe Course

 
Polar Tiger Chief Commissioner
 
Rodjenks Beginner

Location: Geelong

Thanks Polar Tiger  it seems

Arrive North Shore platform 0905 Mon 4/11  Passengers tour great ocean rd

Train arrive GH loop 0935  dep 1743  pick up passes North shore 1815

Interesting day of gunzelling

 
wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...

Thanks for the link to the timetable, handy to see there's 2 lots (Up and Down, Syd/Melb bound etc) of seeing it through Maccy loop.

Wolfpac

 
Gman_86 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!

Interesting to see that on the Monday night they travel all the way from North Shore to Benalla to stable for the night, then back to Melbourne for the cup on Tuesday. Any specific reason for this or have I misread that document?

 
MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera

I must be missing something as well, but where do the passengers get off the train to go to the cup on Tuesday.

There is no mention in the timetable of the train ever going to Spencer St station.

 
mikesyd Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney

They get off/on at Broadmeadows....notice the stops there?

 
MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera

How do the passengers get from Broadmedows to Flemington?

Seems like a bizzare place to have to get on and off the train.

 
LowndesJ515 Chief Commissioner

Location: Goulburn

How do the passengers get from Broadmedows to Flemington?

Seems like a bizzare place to have to get on and off the train.

- MD

How do the Passengers get from Southern Cross to Flemington normally? I'm guessing could be the same way just from a different location.

 
mikesyd Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney
The HE brochure suggests that coaches will meet the train at Broadmeadows....for the money the passengers are paying, I don't think they will be accorded the novelty of a suburban train trip.

Its maybe a bit difficult to get a path into SCS for a lengthy train at the times required too.
 
exarmidale Junior Train Controller

The HE brochure suggests that coaches will meet the train at Broadmeadows....for the money the passengers are paying, I don't think they will be accorded the novelty of a suburban train trip.

Its maybe a bit difficult to get a path into SCS for a lengthy train at the times required too.

- mikesyd

It is certainly an exercise to take the Southern Aurora into Southern Cross.

Logistically it's a lot easier for passengers to detrain at Broadmeadows, be picked up by chartered coaches and delivered direct to the racecourse at Flemington. The empty cars can then proceed to stable at South Dynon without any undue hassles.

 
The Vinelander Chief Commissioner

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line

There is no mention in the timetable of the train ever going to Spencer St station.

- MD

The Southern Aurora ceased travelling to Spencer Street Station in August 1986.

Mike.

 
mikesyd Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney

Well said Mike.

 
Bullucked Chief Train Controller

It is certainly an exercise to take the Southern Aurora into Southern Cross.

Logistically it's a lot easier for passengers to detrain at Broadmeadows, be picked up by chartered coaches and delivered direct to the racecourse at Flemington. The empty cars can then proceed to stable at South Dynon without any undue hassles.

- exarmidale

How handy it would've been if Sunshine platform still existed. (When was the last time something stopped there on the gauge?)

 
wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...

How handy it would've been if Sunshine platform still existed. (When was the last time something stopped there on the gauge?)

- Bullucked

Yes, would've been a slightly shorter bus ride there. Would be a while, even as early as I can remember the Sunshine SG platform was barricaded off and looking decrepit and run down. (So earlier than mid-80's?)

Wolfpac

 
X'Trapolis-904M Chief Train Controller

Location: Melbourne

Were do we take photos Can we take then At nth Melbourne

 
wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...

I usually head to McIntyre Loop, get a few crosses there normally (unless it's express through there and crosses at Totty Loop instead!) and I used to go to Southern Cross, but that's out as it no longer goes that far.

Broady would be good as the train stops there to detrain passengers, further north might be good to get it at a reasonable speed, say Somerton etc?

Wolfpac

 
MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera

What exactly is the problem with this train going into Spencer St?

How does GSR manage the Overland.?

Can fan trips with SG trains now not use Spencer St ?

 
The Vinelander Chief Commissioner

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line

What exactly is the problem with this train going into Spencer St?

How does GSR manage the Overland.?

Can fan trips with SG trains now not use Spencer St ?

- MD

It's now Southern Cross Station (SCS)...it's been so for about 8 years.

The Overland still rolls into Platform 2 twice a week as it always had in the past.

It may well be that due to SCS being so busy these days there isn't the space available for a 15 car train (Southern Aurora) to take up space on Platform 2 for the time required.

Not to mention the probable added expense of the private operator (Heritage Express) having to pay an access charge to SCS management to use the station.

Mike.

 
73LJWhiteSL Deputy Commissioner

Location: South East Melbourne Surburbs

If it is stopping in Geelong, it can only be at North Shore.

If it is a long consist it will have to stop several times (think Overland) as the platform is very short.

- QSB6.7



FYI The Overland only stops once at North Shore. The conductor walks through the train and collects North Shore passengers approaching the stop and escorts them out the door aligned with the platform.

Steve

 
QSB6.7 Train Controller

FYI The Overland only stops once at North Shore. The conductor walks through the train and collects North Shore passengers approaching the stop and escorts them out the door aligned with the platform.

Steve

- 73LJWhiteSL

Interesting, as I have been caught several times at the Station Street crossing while The Overland made multiple stops, unless this is a recent change?

 
Polar Tiger Chief Commissioner

Location: FL390

It's now Southern Cross Station (SCS)...it's been so for about 8 years.

The Overland still rolls into Platform 2 twice a week as it always had in the past.

It may well be that due to SCS being so busy these days there isn't the space available for a 15 car train (Southern Aurora) to take up space on Platform 2 for the time required.

Not to mention the probable added expense of the private operator (Heritage Express) having to pay an access charge to SCS management to use the station.

Mike.

- The Vinelander

The other problem is that you can only run around one loco at a time at the bottom end of PL2, hence the reason it's run in push/pull mode from McIntyre Loop on previous occasions.

 

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