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  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
On Saturday 30th November 2013, C17 971 sheared a crank pin on the fireman's side of the engine as it was rounding the curve on the approach to the Bald Mountain wooden road bridge, bending a couple of rods in the process.

SDSR were successful in hiring C17 974 from the QR Heritage fleet so that passenger services were able to recommence on Australia Day 2014.

http://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/all-aboard-new-loco-to-explore-the-region/2139726/

http://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/full-steam-ahead-for-historic-train/2143178/

I was in the area on the day and was able to get a number of shots of the train returning to Warwick from Wallangarra.

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  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Thanks for the pics Graham. Good to see trains running whilst 971 gets fixed.

I see the news coverage about another carriage acquired:
http://www.warwickdailynews.com.au/news/the-future-of-railway-continues-to-steam-ahead-in-/2166140/

It looks like some type of compartment carriage, unless he's sitting right at the end against the rear wall.

Can anyone shed any light on this?
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Thanks for the pics Graham. Good to see trains running whilst 971 gets fixed.

I see the news coverage about another carriage acquired:
http://www.warwickdailynews.com.au/news/the-future-of-railway-continues-to-steam-ahead-in-/2166140/

It looks like some type of compartment carriage, unless he's sitting right at the end against the rear wall.

Can anyone shed any light on this?
locojoe67

The carriage is BL574. There are some photos here: http://www.atrq.net/?p=374
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Thanks Graham.
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Good to see 971 back in action. Heard there were a few teething troubles on the Gundy trip but nothing major.

The August 24 trip to Clifton should cross ARHS Qlds rm 1901 on the way back ftom Wallangarra, sometime in the early afternoon.

Does anyone know the crossing time and place?
  SJB Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Given the article has a quote about the train saying it will be 'uniform' I suspect SDSR have acquired another former Kuranda car.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Given the article has a quote about the train saying it will be 'uniform' I suspect SDSR have acquired another former Kuranda car.
Archer

Do you mean BL574? I'm assuming it is a former KSR car, probably one of the others that came south with the ones SDSR already has. Looks like it from the photos.
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
971 has returned to the border:



http://southerndownssteamrailway.tumblr.com/

Video in progress. . .

Edit - Warwick to Wallangarra (in a short and snappy 12 minutes) here:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojp1MLZb4Jw&list=UUe-iUL_rS6xOCQvgBNNXdwQ
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

After looking at the previous post, can someone pass me a tablet, I feel dizzy.........................Shocked
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
After looking at the previous post, can someone pass me a tablet, I feel dizzy.........................Shocked
trainbrain

You're not getting my Samsung Galaxy Tab 3... Laughing
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Wallangarra northwards:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLnv88e6PAQ&list=UUe-iUL_rS6xOCQvgBNNXdwQ

Caution: stack talk, run pasts and a firebox rake-out.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
That is the lousiest of lousy breaks. I really feel for the volunteers there. I have experienced locos being unfit for  trips due to relatively minor issues ( leaking fusible plug for example ), but to have a disaster like this is terrible. I wish I could wave a magic wand from 1600 km away. I just hope some decent assistance may be forthcoming to fix the loco.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
maybe their fall back position should be a railmotor, like Gympie MVHR.

ARHS do have Red Fred at Kunkala, but whether they would be prepared to lend him/ and/or is he operational, is moot.
OldSteamer

Perhaps the currently barely operating MVHR might like to let SDSR borrow one or more of their railmotors? Red Fred is often used at RRM, so is not likely to be available to be loaned/leased out. I believe the RRM 2000 class set is not currently operational.

This is really sad, but also sad that I as a member had to read about it from the news media via a railway forum. They have my e-mail address, home address and phone numbers. The only communication I get is the quarterly newsletter, hardly timely!
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

I hope this group finds another loco, it would be a pity to see it fold, I was hoping to ride this train in the near future. Good luck everyone...........................
  DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

Does RM60 at Normanton still work? long way to transport. but they are in the right electorate (hopefully). they should be on the doorstep of Lawrie Springborg's electorate office Monday morning filling out an application for a grant from the Royalties to Regions moneybag that Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney is throwing about with wild abandon in country areas at the moment.
OldSteamer

It was said in their press statement that money wasn't a problem.

Please don't let anything more be stolen from Normanton.  The Gulflander was RM 74 for many years until it was brought south to Brisbane for "some repairs".  Next thing you know, it is put in the museum in Cleveland. it should be back in Normanton with RM 94 being the back up.
  Mufreight Train Controller

Location: North Ipswich
Perhaps to get some breathing space they could borrow/hire the loco from the Mary Valley Rattler, the hire would help the Mary Valley groups finances and speed up their return to operation while the ability to continue operations would give the blokes at Warwick the time and some cash to have the repairs carried out on their loco.
If the repair is beyond their facilities and abilities the loco or boiler could be moved to the Ipswich QR workshops where there are still some experienced staff who could carry out the repairs needed.
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
That is a shame 971 has experienced another failure.

There are other steamers in Qld, but the politics of acquiring them is complex. Without begrudging MVHR, the sale of 967 is an example.

Speaking of which, Seeney is advocating rail trail grants, including to MVHR, with the obvious connotations:
http://m.gympietimes.com.au/news/Mary-bikeway-plan-comes-out-of-rail-grant-invitati/2330225/

The most ideal motive power solution might be the acquisition of a diesel locomotive. Problem is Aurizon are always shipping them offshore lest a third party operator get their hands on them, but there seems little threat of sdsr usurping aurizon dominance on the Southern Downs. Even if any remaining branch lines are deemed fit for traffic,  the below rail access charges make road freight a nobrainer, even if motive power was available.  Plus there's the lack of paths down the range for Brisbane-bound trains.

Perhaps SDSR could aim for a heritage diesel? Or a railmotor? Theres always a few of those around, derelict, but the owners will not part with them. Retention toilets aside, once the initial mechanicals are made sound there's little to do to keep as a backup.

Excuse my ignorance - what happened in 1947?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

That is a shame 971 has experienced another failure.

There are other steamers in Qld, but the politics of acquiring them is complex. Without begrudging MVHR, the sale of 967 is an example.

Speaking of which, Seeney is advocating rail trail grants, including to MVHR, with the obvious connotations:
http://m.gympietimes.com.au/news/Mary-bikeway-plan-comes-out-of-rail-grant-invitati/2330225/

The most ideal motive power solution might be the acquisition of a diesel locomotive. Problem is Aurizon are always shipping them offshore lest a third party operator get their hands on them, but there seems little threat of sdsr usurping aurizon dominance on the Southern Downs. Even if any remaining branch lines are deemed fit for traffic,  the below rail access charges make road freight a nobrainer, even if motive power was available.  Plus there's the lack of paths down the range for Brisbane-bound trains.

Perhaps SDSR could aim for a heritage diesel? Or a railmotor? Theres always a few of those around, derelict, but the owners will not part with them. Retention toilets aside, once the initial mechanicals are made sound there's little to do to keep as a backup.

Excuse my ignorance - what happened in 1947?
"locojoe67"


QR now owns nineteen ex-Aurizon locos, all of which apart from the three 2150s could be used on the Wallangarra line. Aurizon has also recently short term leased locomotives to Watco/CBH in Western Australia. So there are at least two avenues SDSR could pursue for a short term or long term locomotive lease in QLD.
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
MVHR's steamers are supposedly out of action. Part of the grant money - which still hasn't been allocated to contract track work yet - is to be spent on locomotive repairs.

Leasing a diesel locomotive might not be the preferred option for SDSR, but it might be a way to test market acceptability on the appeal of the trips without the steamer up front.

QR now owns nineteen ex-Aurizon locos, all of which apart from the three 2150s could be used on the Wallangarra line

Perhaps there are concerns SDSR might branch into rail freight like delivering coffee, using that onboard espresso machine rumoured for BL574?!

Anyway, heres another off-the-wall motive power recycling suggestion: 1620 leading two decommisioned EMU sets.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Here I was thinking that you were on the footplate.
OldSteamer

Not sure what I would do there, except get in the way! Smile

these blokes are retirees
OldSteamer

There are a lot of members who are not retired and also a lot that are not blokes!

Does RM60 at Normanton still work?
OldSteamer

Yes, but it is in regular use there.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Perhaps SDSR could aim for a heritage diesel?
locojoe67

http://www.warwickdailynews.com.au/news/save-our-steam-train-steam-railway-group-in-dire-n/2338295/
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Perhaps SDSR could aim for a heritage diesel?

On the heritage front, 1172 doesn't seem overly busy... neither is 1632 at the moment. Don't even mention 1650 (out of rego) or1179 (needing batteries).

And with the pending loss of the Sunlander and Inlander, there will be even less demand for operational 1720 and 2400 class locomotives. Adding more numbers to those in storage that are 'unavailable'.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

1632 has been contracted since last year to haul rollingstock for EDI-Downer from their plant in Maryborough to Maryborough West, so it's relatively busy as a revenue earning loco these days.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
1172 doesn't seem overly busy
locojoe67

Unless 1172 has had quite a lot of work done it won't be hauling a train until it has, I'm not sure of its status.

those in storage that are 'unavailable'.
locojoe67

They are unavailable because they can and will (most likely) be sold to Africa. A "privatised" railway that must turn a profit can't just give away surplus locos.
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
I understood 1632's contract at Maryborough had been finished and she was back at Gympie.

1172 has had a lot of work done but it may not be quite there.

Tasrail will be flogging off a few ex QR locomotives. Damien White was on rp for a while and I hear he's quite approachable.

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