Shock news!- Prmeier Barry O Farrell has fallen on his sword and resigned

 
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Somehow it pales into insignificance when placed alongside that prick Thompson and his spending union funds on prostitutes. At least O'Farrell did the honourable thing, Thompson is still standing up barefaced claiming his innocence.
TheBlacksmith


For a sitting Premier to be caught committing perjury before the ICAC, you don't get a more serious offence than that.  

The matter itself was trivial, but even if O'Farrel had told the truth from the outset, it would have tarnished him.  So it would appear he chose not to.  The whole episode shows just how susceptible the Lib party structure is to corruption, even if nothing significant has been found against them (yet).  The note shows O'Farrel clearly appreciated the value of the gift, and also how much he needed to keep Di Griolamo on side.

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  allambee Chief Train Controller

I wouldn't be surprised that he gets a job at Macquarie Bank, Lend Lease, GPT Group or something like that.
How wide will the next be? I think both sides of politics would be extremely worried.

Of course, there is a simple fix for supposedly "street smart" politicians - ACCEPT NO GIFTS, PAY FOR YOUR OWN MEALS. The only reason why a lobbyist is "gifting" a $3000 bottle of grange is he wants something in return.

Maintain a proper register & send the stuff back, if they don't accept the item back, then surrender the item at Parliament House and have it destroyed.  Make it an offense to send a public servant or someone on the public purse a gift over $50.

At the same time the laws can be drafted to cover the private sector and they can clean up the some of the purchasing departments within building and construction industry at the same time.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Somehow it pales into insignificance when placed alongside that prick Thompson and his spending union funds on prostitutes. At least O'Farrell did the honourable thing, Thompson is still standing up barefaced claiming his innocence.
TheBlacksmith


If you need to compare the Premier of NSW to a relative nobody like Thomson - go for it. Smile
Granted Labor people have no class. When they get into the piggery they can’t control themselves. They head straight for the trough, dive in and make a mess of it. For those to the piggery born it’s just another trough, the $3000 Grange is just another bottle of plonk.

Apart from the Jones/Hadley types running damage control, many in the media believe this influence peddling pervades the Libs too.
As for doing the "right" thing Wink  It's doubtful Barry and his advisers would be naive to think that ICAC would ask about something so specific if they didn't have the evidence. ICAC simply gave him enough time to fall on his sword. The honour is in resigning before you get caught. No ICAC, no questions, no resignation - no honour Exclamation
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Remember the show "Enough Rope" with Andrew Denton?. That's what ICAC is, more or less, they already know the answers before one appears there, so there is no hiding from them

Kind Regards

*P.S Michael Baird to be announced as Premier this afternoon, Gladys to nominate for Deputy's Spot
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
The only reason why a lobbyist is "gifting" a $3000 bottle of grange is he wants something in return.
allambee

Exactly.

State politicians in particular are too close to developers and rent-seekers looking to get something in return for their largesse, that's why Barry O'Farrell's cagey-ness around receiving an expensive present was such a big problem.

Blacksmith: Fair enough that Thompson is a liar and a grub but Barry O'Farrell outranks him and wields a lot more influence. The fact that he apparently wasn't keen to disclose a very expensive gift from a rent-seeker in front of a commission investigating corruption is definitely a sack-able offence - especially considering their 'new broom sweeps clean' platform.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
I think that the Liberals now wish that they had never established ICAC back in 1989.

Sure, it has caused Labor lots of grief, but the Liberals have had 2 Premiers fall on their swords as a result of ICAC - Greiner (later overturned on appeal) and now O'Farrell.


Mind you, its always a good sideshow to watch politicians (of any brand) squirm when ICAC call them in, and the mere mention of those four letters must cause many to have nightmares.
  allambee Chief Train Controller

I think that the Liberals now wish that they had never established ICAC back in 1989.

Sure, it has caused Labor lots of grief, but the Liberals have had 2 Premiers fall on their swords as a result of ICAC - Greiner (later overturned on appeal) and now O'Farrell.


Mind you, its always a good sideshow to watch politicians (of any brand) squirm when ICAC call them in, and the mere mention of those four letters must cause many to have nightmares.
mikesyd

And they set it up with a get out of jail clause.
Don't lie (admit to the corruption) and you cannot be charged for your admission.
Suffer a bit of public shame which is eventually forgotten, keep the money and recycle yourself into another career.

Did any Railcorp procurement officer busted go to jail as the result of the ICAC investigation into Railcorp a few years ago? I doubt it.
  waxyzebu Locomotive Driver

Somehow it pales into insignificance when placed alongside that prick Thompson and his spending union funds on prostitutes. At least O'Farrell did the honourable thing, Thompson is still standing up barefaced claiming his innocence.
TheBlacksmith


Thompson can claim his innocence as much as he likes, but no-one is listening.

Baz isn't honourable - he only gave up the premiership because he was caught out, and if he looks honourable that's just a reflection of how corrupted Australian politics can be. Tough titties. Memory fail? That's either pure BS, or maybe he really can't recall because he has received so many gifts from various lobbyists during his tenure that a lousy $3,000 bottle of wine seems insignificant. Whatever... he got what he deserved and I have no sympathy for him.

They all know the game they are playing. It's not as if the poor bugger will end up on the street after this, is it? He still has a job. Lowly workers found breaching corporate gift policy are liable to get the sack and lose everything... unless they run the company, or it's linked to a sweet deal.

Politicians in NSW don't do too many sweet deals for their constituents, that's for sure, so if they're taking gifts from big names in business and not declaring them, why wouldn't people get suspicious? Anyone care for a bit of inducement? We have gift registers for a reason. Once you've been caught not declaring expensive gifts, your integrity is shot. It doesn't matter how good you supposedly were up to that point. People will always suspect that one incident was just the tip of the iceberg - a careless oversight, and that there was more going on behind the scenes that was carefully covered up without a paper trail, with handshakes and verbal thank yous in private clubs, if not tip offs and insider trading.

I doubt I'd forget a $3,000 bottle of wine, even if it wasn't one of the best vintages, but old Baz really must be on a different level to me, despite his claims that he's no connoisseur.

O'Farrell 2014 Vintage Premier - it's so good you won't remember it
http://www.buzzfeed.com/simoncrerar/hilarious-responses-to-the-fall-of-nsw-premier-barry-ofarrel


And they set it up with a get out of jail clause.
Don't lie (admit to the corruption) and you cannot be charged for your admission.
Suffer a bit of public shame which is eventually forgotten, keep the money and recycle yourself into another career.

Did any Railcorp procurement officer busted go to jail as the result of the ICAC investigation into Railcorp a few years ago? I doubt it.

LOL yeah, but meanwhile we have people in the media saying that ICAC has gone too far, that it is way more powerful than IBAC in Victoria etc...

There is a lot of corruption in the NSW government, its agencies and entities - the whole system. ICAC doesn't go far enough.


At the same time the laws can be drafted to cover the private sector and they can clean up the some of the purchasing departments within building and construction industry at the same time.

Not a bad idea. Given there is so much outsourcing, those companies are often spending taxpayers' money anyway... but I doubt that will happen under this government. All we'll get is an inquiry into building and construction unions, not the employers.
The NSW ALP also has strong ties to construction, so they won't be of any use either.

There's only one thing for it!
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Thompson can claim his innocence as much as he likes, but no-one is listening.

Baz isn't honourable - he only resigned because he got caught. Tough titties. Memory fail? BS... or maybe he really can't recall because he has received so many gifts that a lousy $3,000 bottle of wine seems insignificant. Whatever... he got what he deserved.
waxyzebu


Correct. The higher up the food chain the greater the expectations.
It's clutching to compare a State Premier to someone of no real consequence. Only a rusted-on Liberal could keep a straight face doing so Laughing
Now there are libs such as Kennett calling for changes to ICAC. Typical hypocrisy but then again I'm not tripping over bottles of Grange Sad
  aussie48 Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
Of course Barry could have done the honourable thing and resigned because he knew there was more dirt on him to come.   By resigning he may hope ICAC have had their pound of flesh and will forget him and he can retire on his nice big fat taxpayer funded pension, which he couldn't if convicted.

My opinion and like smegheads every one has one.
  waxyzebu Locomotive Driver

Now it's time for Senator The Honourable Arthur Sinodinos AO to go, formally and permanently. If Abbott continues to defend him (and BOF), he can bloody go, too. He's not doing Australian politics any favours by trying to project an image of honour and integrity while the stench of corruption lingers on.

https://newmatilda.com/2014/03/20/end-arthur-sinodinos


Rather than protect Sinodinos and BOF, Abbott's defence is dragging the entire government and Liberal Party down to the level of Obeid, assuming they weren't already there. But it doesn't stop with Abbott, people were queuing up to defend them. It's fair enough to say that there is supposed to be a presumption of innocence, but we aren't talking about jail time here, we're talking about public confidence in the political system. This is not just a fart in the wind that will quickly blow away and be forgotten after a short period of embarrassment. It's a toxic smog that will continue to undermine the public's trust in government until it is properly resolved. That might mean the axe has to fall on anyone implicated in this mess, even if there is no absolute proof of their guilt. The trouble is, that approach would probably clear out the majority of the chamber. But you'd have to wonder, who's next in line for some scrutiny in both the NSW and federal parliaments?

Then, establish a national ICAC with broader powers.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
When Sinodinos says he can't remember that a body, of which he was a high office-bearer, donated umpteen grand to the party of which he was treasurer, he is either lying, or has such a poor memory that it could be the onset of dementia. In either case, Federal Parliament is no place for him.

P.S. I know waxvzebu is correct in using the title Senator "the Honourable", but I refuse to use the term. I reserve the description "Honourable" for those who earn it.
  waxyzebu Locomotive Driver

When Sinodinos says he can't remember that a body, of which he was a high office-bearer, donated umpteen grand to the party of which he was treasurer, he is either lying, or has such a poor memory that it could be the onset of dementia. In either case, Federal Parliament is no place for him.

P.S. I know waxvzebu is correct in using the title Senator "the Honourable", but I refuse to use the term. I reserve the description "Honourable" for those who earn it.
Valvegear

lol that was just "for effect"... There's nothing honourable about him. One look at his Wikipedia entry is enough to turn me off the man.... Goldman Sachs, NAB, AWH...

As an AO, Sinodinos is tarnishing the Order of Australia as well. Lucky we got knighthoods back! The AOs can be for people who stood aside after a grilling at ICAC, and AKs for those smart enough not to get caught, perhaps?
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Rather than protect Sinodinos and BOF, Abbott's defence is dragging the entire government and Liberal Party down to the level of Obeid, assuming they weren't already there. This is not just a fart in the wind that will quickly blow away and be forgotten after a short period of embarrassment. It's a toxic smog that will continue to undermine the public's trust in government until it is properly resolved. That might mean the axe has to fall on anyone implicated in this mess, even if there is no absolute proof of their guilt. The trouble is, that approach would probably clear out the majority of the chamber. But you'd have to wonder, who's next in line for some scrutiny in both the NSW and federal parliaments?
waxyzebu


Not that I want to defend BoF but I think he was quite possibly set up.  It's all a bit convenient there was such a paper trail.  I'd suggest it was one of those gifts he couldn't refuse, and was possibly asked not to declare given it had a degree of plausible deniability.  The hard rights in the NSW libs have never wanted O'Farrell as their leader, and have now got their fundamentalist Christian candidate as premier (and indeed prime minister).

The Libs have a similar systemic corruption problem with their structure to the ALP.  It's (hopefully) harder for the Libs to throw up an Obeid, but it's easier to influence because of the overlap between their fund-raising, lobbying and political arms.  I just wonder if Abbott is now thinking twice about all the Royal Commissions he's launched.
  waxyzebu Locomotive Driver

Not that I want to defend BoF but I think he was quite possibly set up. It's all a bit convenient there was such a paper trail. I'd suggest it was one of those gifts he couldn't refuse, and was possibly asked not to declare given it had a degree of plausible deniability. The hard rights in the NSW libs have never wanted O'Farrell as their leader, and have now got their fundamentalist Christian candidate as premier (and indeed prime minister).

The Libs have a similar systemic corruption problem with their structure to the ALP. It's (hopefully) harder for the Libs to throw up an Obeid, but it's easier to influence because of the overlap between their fund-raising, lobbying and political arms. I just wonder if Abbott is now thinking twice about all the Royal Commissions he's launched.
djf01


I'm sure there is a background story and some nasty politics involved, and maybe Barry is a relatively good guy (which is not saying much), but ultimately he's stuffed and the whole system is shrouded in toxic smog.

But really, I am glad he enjoyed the Grange, assuming he wrote the letter, which he accepts that he did. As one comment read, it's "the only bottle that can bring down a government without being set alight and thrown first."
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
...Rather than protect Sinodinos and BOF, Abbott's defence is dragging the entire government and Liberal Party down to the level of Obeid, assuming they weren't already there ...
waxyzebu


Abbott wouldn’t go quietly. His reaction to one reporter’s question was very much attack dog – I thought she must have been from the ABC Surprised
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-16/abbott-questions-reporter-over-corruption-smear-comment/5394858

Guess her career will go the same way as this guy...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-17/navy-officer-demoted-over-incursions-during-asylum-seeker-op/5397586
  waxyzebu Locomotive Driver

Abbott wouldn’t go quietly. His reaction to one reporter’s question was very much attack dog – I thought she must have been from the ABC Surprised
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-16/abbott-questions-reporter-over-corruption-smear-comment/5394858
Groundrelay


Yes, you have to wonder when people react like that - I suspect it was due to the Obeid links to his own government, thanks to Arthur Sinodinos (and others?). He should have been prepared for a question like that, but maybe he was so terrified of his own government being dismissed as corrupt due to the lingering stench of Obeid that he was unable to maintain the cool composure we usually get from politicians at press conferences. If reporters could call the NSW Government corrupt due to BOF's "memory fail", they could easily throw the same terminology at Abbott's government, something plenty of people in the general population would go along with. Sure, we need hard evidence to prove criminal corruption, but public perceptions of and confidence are also very important. A perception of moral corruption is a big problem, even if it is not a criminal matter. When an Australian PM says that people with a cloud over their heads are "honourable men of integrity who have served the country well" etc, it won't wash with the public, it fails the pub test. The Sinodinos thing runs deeper than the present government, too. It puts a bit of a question mark over the integrity of the Howard regime. Once corruption smeg hits the fan it can splatter entire careers, everywhere the person in question has been. If you have been engaged in questionable (even if not criminally corrupt) activity on one occasion, why should anyone believe it was an isolated incident? Could you be trusted in any position of power or public office again? Funnily enough, this rent seeker couldn't recall when he fronted the ICAC either. This isn't over, so don't be surprised if more names hit the headlines.

One thing is clear: once a large part of the Australian population is so distrustful of politicians and government that they are willing to smear them with labels like "corrupt" without a second thought, we have a dysfunctional political system if not a political crisis, whether the smearing is rooted in fact or not. For what it's worth, I think the reporter's choice of words is reflective of the views of many Australians. What are our politicians going to do about that image problem? At most, they'll create a distraction, otherwise not a damn thing if they can help it. They will have to be dragged kicking and screaming or fear a revolution to really reform their corrupted cash cow of a system. As others have said, there is probably a reason why other jurisdictions never went as far with their corruption bodies - they learnt the lesson of NSW with ICAC looking a bit too closely at their shonky dealings.

It's getting harder to believe that Australian government and business is much above Western world averages in terms of integrity and corruption. I suspect that as the anti-corruption laws and demands for transparency have evolved, the corrupt players have evolved with them, but as we have seen they can still get caught. Still, the fact that ICAC has to resort to thank you notes about $3,000 bottles of wine without clear proof of corrupt conduct could indicate that they have a very hard time pinning down anyone for anything concrete and they only get to scrape the surface.

Corrupt people usually do trip up eventually and leave trails of evidence. Maybe they do suffer "memory fails" or maybe they just become so arrogant that they assume they are the rulers of their own little Mafia empires, think they are still in their ancestral homelands where corruption is known to run rife, or that noone is watching, that the watchdogs themselves are corrupt, they are above the law etc. Either way, they ought to know better but it shows how your judgment can slip when you are intoxicated by power, prestige and pure greed. Then, if they annoy or backstab anyone, which they always do, any tiny scrap of ammunition they leave lying around will be picked up and used against them. That's how it works. Either that or we start seeing false accusations, show trials and summary executions to eliminate opponents.

Oh, hang on, didn't ICAC hear that former Liberal MP Chris Hartcher made a corruption complaint against a senior Sydney Water public servant who was opposed to a certain contract, allegedly to help out Obeid? I don't know whether the public servant really was corrupt, but it looks like the reasons the complaint against him/her was made were questionable, by someone who was also potentially corrupt... So, let me get this straight: the people of NSW may have been rescued from a corrupt public servant by a corrupt politician? Great!... and to top it all off, since Hartcher was Liberal, we have more cross-party contamination! It's almost funny.
  allambee Chief Train Controller


Not a bad idea. Given there is so much outsourcing, those companies are often spending taxpayers' money anyway... but I doubt that will happen under this government. All we'll get is an inquiry into building and construction unions, not the employers.
The NSW ALP also has strong ties to construction, so they won't be of any use either.

There's only one thing for it!
waxyzeb

Correct,
I worked for a contractor on one recently publicly funded project, where at christmas time, the procurement officer for that contractor had to use a four wheeled trolley to move his alcohol gifts out of the office. - And he wasn't moving slabs of beer.
That's in addition to all the sealed envelopes and wrapped boxed gifts from his suppliers that had achieved (thru him) official company "preferred supplier" status.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Having worked in a purchasing department several years ago, the opportunity for corruption was obvious.  That's why the company had super-strict rules on declaring any gifts from suppliers etc.

But sometimes it could get comical.  One colleague went to an unnamed Asian country and suppliers there gave him a car load or two of the most hideously ugly and useless pottery vases etc one has ever seen.  Needless to say he left it all in his hotel room for the cleaners to throw out/horde....

Another common enticement some colleagues were offered was in the form of "personal entertainment".  It didn't leave one with a positive impression of such suppliers - they didn't get contracts.

Back on topic - they need to give the Victorian anti-corruption watchdog more power.  Too many from either side of politics have the courage to do so.
  allambee Chief Train Controller

Streuth!, according to Barrys bio, he has never worked one day in the private sector.
So much for the Lib's throwing stones at the the Labour mob accusing them of having people from the union movement who then get parliament and have no business experience.
  waxyzebu Locomotive Driver

Streuth!, according to Barrys bio, he has never worked one day in the private sector.
So much for the Lib's throwing stones at the the Labour mob accusing them of having people from the union movement who then get parliament and have no business experience.
allambee


By Jove, it looks like that could be right - is BOF just a career bureaucrat - an "unproductive fatcat public servant who needs to be cleared out"?
But he might also be a servant of certain powerful, undemocratic, cross-party interests.

Thanks for all your support, Nick Di Girolamo.

Not just "thanks for your support", or "thanks for all your support"...



Eddie Obeid said in August "I've given twenty years of service to the New South Wales Parliament, and I am a very respected person to all those that dealt with me."

Twenty years of "service"?

"A very respected person"?

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2013/s3816473.htm

Sam Dastyari and John Robertson also copped a serving from Obeid: John Robertson's irrelevant. He'll get his day, him and Sam Dastyari - but that's not the time for that, now. Ah, these people wore the carpet in my office when they wanted support... All's I can say is they're not true Labor leaders. They're cowards who do not stick up for the truth and the rights of an individual.

Naturally, Abbott and Hockey immediately jumped on the ALP bashing bandwagon. Little did they know what was going to come knocking on their doors in 2014 - or did they?

Arthur Sinodinos was warned to be careful of AWH by Sydney Water exec Kerry Schott (who along with colleague Ron Quill was later stitched up for corruption involving Veolia by Chris Hartcher after John Rippon, another director of AWH, allegedly wrote in an email that was forwarded to Sinodinos "if only the b!tch was gone we could deal with these guys"  and wanted her sacked), but he didn't react - he must have had his eyes on something else ($$$$$$?)... and oh, there's another familiar name - Michael Costa, come on down! Apparently, he played a positive role in the company. If so, that would contrast with his performance in the NSW Government.

Following Mr Costa we have the highly esteemed Joe Tripodi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJC_jiGH-2I


ICAC hears of worried Joe Tripodi's secret meetings to avoid phone taps


Mike Baird admits it was a mistake to appoint Nick Di Girolamo to Sydney Water
It was a "mistake" was it? Yeah, maybe not the best idea given the pies he had his finger in and advice against appointing him. BOF is out, Baird is in. Can we trust Baird? Who is pulling his strings? He's not exactly a lifetime bureaucrat - he's a banker like Arthur Sinodinos, but then they aren't much different to fatcat bureaucrats are they?


As for Robertson and that doublespeaking little weasel Dastyari, watch this space.

Sam Dastyari's questionable political genealogy: Obeid's gopher heads to Senate
Dastyari following a tradition of preferment and cronyism.

Well, he knew it was time to move on into federal parliament... but the stench of Obeid can linger for a long time. It has followed the Mr Bean lookalike (who started out fetching coffee for Eddie Obeid) all the way from his $1.36 million Sydney home to Canberra. Dastyari recently described Obeid as "professional, charming and thoughtful" in his dealings with him. As one commenter on the Guardian article said, This guy is shady business and there are NO two ways about it.

Who's next - how about some other former ALP General Secretaries and Obeid associates like Karl Bitar, Mark Arbib and Matt Thistlethwaite? Thistlethwaite was shafted to the Senate after 18 months as General Secretary because he couldn't handle the Sussex St basketcase he had been put in charge of. There was a lot of praise for Dastyari, but he "suffered" the same fate of becoming a Senator - a disastrous NSW election defeat in 2011 under his watch, then the ICAC hearings began and he was out of there, despite earlier claiming he was there for the long haul to fix NSW Labor. How about some more LIberals (aside from Mike Baird)?

When this smeg hit the fan it didn't have to splatter very far to hit a lot of people, all in the same obscure circle of undemocratic power. Criminally corrupt? That may not be proven. Morally corrupt? Well what do you think?
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Naturally, Abbott and Hockey immediately jumped on the ALP bashing bandwagon. Little did they know what was going to come knocking on their doors in 2014 - or did they?
waxyzebu

I seem to recall their delicious delight when Eddie Obeid was being hammered - I'm sure they had no idea it was going to eventually lead them to one of their own junior cabinet ministers.

The trouble with ICAC is that it can't be easily directed... Royal Commissions are much better to utilise as a one-sided witch-hunt because politicians determine the terms of reference before they're let loose. That's why it was so disappointing that the building industry one was so narrowly defined to go after the unions and nobody else; you need at least two parties for that corruption to occur - it's pointless refusing to investigate the other half of the equation.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Well you know what they say about throwing grapes into the air, it comes down plonk. Just don't stand under it though. O'Farrell forgot the last part and got covered in it! I tend to agree with those that suggest if his memory was that bad what the hell was he doing in Parliament in the first place. Or is it a case of selective Dementia. You cannot call it a memory lapse though!
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
I had to laugh at  Bruce Baird last week, when he suggested that the power's of ICAC should be reigned in LaughingLaughing, What's the matter Bruce, Can't take the heat Rolling Eyes
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Well you know what they say about throwing grapes into the air, it comes down plonk. Just don't stand under it though. O'Farrell forgot the last part and got covered in it! I tend to agree with those that suggest if his memory was that bad what the hell was he doing in Parliament in the first place. Or is it a case of selective Dementia. You cannot call it a memory lapse though!
David Peters

You'd have to conclude that the bloke either wasn't very bright or that he was slightly demented... OR anxious to hide any embarrassing conflict of interest. Take your pick. As we discussed earlier, you can't declare a new broom sweeps clean while secretly accepting expensive gifts from rent-seekers; it shows just how hollow that promise was only a month into his election as premier.

And Bruce Baird (father of the new premier of NSW) wants ICAC reigned in?  Of course he does - Mike Baird appointed Nick Di Girolamo to the board of State Water in 2011 and that's something they're yet to discuss at ICAC. What's the bet there was some influence-pedalling going on there too?

Those ICAC people are out of control - sack the lot of them and let us get on with running the place in the way that we're accustomed !

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