To Comtrain / Rod young
I think you have a conflict of interest when it comes to Shrike models / Geoff Hope
1 . Geoff is / was a friend
2 . You where the PR manager for Shrike models on Railpage . Which would of helped more people hand over money to shrike .
3. You made it clear that when Shrike models went bust that you where going to miss out on your two free models .
4 . You have often said don't make lawyers rich by going after a refund .
And for all of the Shrike customers if you get to together as a group and get one lawyer and say he cost $ 10,000 to get your money back and the cost is split between 100 to 150 customers or models.
Eg full refund minus $ 50 to $100 per model which would depend on numbers and cost etc or you can just give up to the fact all money lost
Something to think about
Dear Mr Bear,
Nothing to think about it at all. Your argumentative nature all through this sorry episode is all written here. Should change your name to sore head bear
You don't have to be a PR manager to be a good friend, and good friends don't always treat you properly when you do act as a friend. Some do hang you out to dry, as you have previously noted.
I said I had not paid for my models, and (possibly) that I was getting a special price when they arrived, which was the truth as I knew it. You don't think John Eassie does not throw around a few "deals" even freebies among his friends?
Mr Bear you are more than welcome to gather as many people as you can, and go sue Mr Hope and Shrike, and make as many Lawyers rich as you can. In fact I really, really believe you should give it a go
See you have my blessings
My thoughts are simply this. If you think glass half empty, no body wins except the smegging.......
But their may be an avenue to recover if the 100 odd creditors gather together and build the 30T themselves? (Ixion have asked for an offer)
As you rightly pointed out I lost no cash, however I did lose a couple of models.
IF.. someone takes the Ixion project on and compensates the Shrike customers, I will buy two engines at retail to help it along. That's my commitment (from a VR blue and Gold modeller with over the border workings)
Here is a glass half full answer for you Mr Bear....
If you gather all those folk together and build the model, then nobody will lose much more than the $85 worked out by Ixion, and everybody will be happy except the lawyers?
Your alternative is that anybody wanting a C30T has to pay Austrains over $600 added to their loss of $495 and another Lawyers fee?
You still want to be king of this pile of bulldust? Why not leave that to Austrains? Or you can help.
God helps those that help themselves, or so the nuns told us as kids, and it always worked for me, I do admit.
(Actually seeing that in writing after all these years, it now looks to me like a thieves mantra?)
The real king is Austrains who broke Ixion and now has a free 30T market, don't you think?
Well of course most of those who already paid out $495 might decide not to spend another $600 on their C30T Would you spend $1095 on an unseen C30T, when a great little model has already reached the manufacturing stage and is ready to go?
By the way you are chasing an Rx, aren't you Mr Bear? Did you buy a 30T? No?
Did you pay for your Rx? Then you have your refund already, don't you?