Fotoz Flyer - 5917 Thirlmere to Lithgow

 
  flathog Chief Commissioner

Location: Central West, NSW
I don't understand Raichase. You started this thread by advertising the fact that it is to be steam hauled with no diesel assistance quote: "Steam only, no diesel assistance!", now you criticise someone for simply agreeing with the theme of your original post and you now say it does not matter how many diesels are on the train? A bit unfair.
Clarke Hudswell

If you want to be fair, you'd realise Trent is objecting to one individual being singled out in what is obviously an attempt to cause trouble.

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  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
I don't understand Raichase. You started this thread by advertising the fact that it is to be steam hauled with no diesel assistance quote: "Steam only, no diesel assistance!", now you criticise someone for simply agreeing with the theme of your original post and you now say it does not matter how many diesels are on the train? A bit unfair.
Clarke Hudswell

flathog has hit the nail on the thread.

Yes, I thought the fact that it was an unassisted steam locomotive hauled trip over the Blue Mountains to be a significant selling point to the average enthusiast.

However, the poster in question has approached the thread with a very negative tone, intending to stir up trouble by questioning intending passengers if they would travel with a diesel on the back. This is a contentious issue, and I get tired of watching tours get criticized by motorcaders complaining about diesel assistance on trains.

If the operator of the train feels the need to put a diesel on the back, and that is the difference between the train running and not, I'd rather ride on a heritage train than have the tour cancelled. But that's probably because I go on these trains to enjoy a day out with friends travelling to a destination, rather than to hang out the window the entire time. I generally avoid steam tours, because diesel tours allow one to have an enjoyable day without having to step over people sitting in the aisles with their heads hanging out the window.
  GrahamH Chief Commissioner

Location: At a terminal on the www.
Sounds excellent. Wish I could travel... Sad

A previous unassisted 59 across the Mountains.
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/grahamh/24207845/in/album/468891
  Camo3801 Locomotive Fireman

Location: Western Sydney
Times for Fotoz Flyer:

5917, SWT, FHG, 3xFS
Thirlmere dep: 0657
Picton arr/dep: 0727/0729
Campbelltown arr/dep: 0757/0759
Westmead arr/dep: 0844/0847
Penrith arr/dep: 0911/0931
Valley Heights arr/dep 0958/1015
Katoomba 1130
Lithgow arr 1219

Departs Lithgow at 1230 to Eskbank Sidings to attach 4th FS Car, returns at 1356.

Lithgow dep: 1402
Hermitage 1405
Lisdale (water loco) arr/dep: 1434/1534
Hermitage 1557
Lithgow Arrive: 1600

Lithgow Dep: 1610
Katoomba arr/dep: 1715/1717
Lawson arr/dep: 1737/1750
Penrith arr/dep: 1846/1906
Westmead arr/dep: 2011/2013
Campbelltown arr/dep: 2057/2059
Maldon C Frame arr/dep: 2124/2134
Thirlmere 2150
  anzac1959 Chief Commissioner

Anyone know when the 59 is heading down to Thirlmere or if its down there already?
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Heading down there on Friday, departing Eveleigh at 12:23pm

Kind Regards
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Hi all, Today at Revesby I sighted Steam Loco 5917 + Water Gin and Van, they were heading down to Thirlmere in readiness for tomorrow's run up to Lithgow
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32678796@N05/14809304847/in/photostream/

Kind Regards
  Indefatigable Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
If you're further up the line waiting for it, the 59 just arrived at Penrith (at 0951). I had to leave so not sure on departure.

Happy Gunzelling!
  Bevan Wall Assistant Commissioner

Here's some of the video I was able to record of "the Fotoz Flyer" today.
BW



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VILYFaQO-6o
  SJB Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Hopefully the running of this tour will silence those who have been agitating for some time that tour operators never run 'enthusiast' tours anymore these days. It was a great run up the mountain with no diesel assistance, something which has also been on the gunzel wanted list for quite awhile.
  BIG-BEAR Chief Train Controller

Excellent video Bevan Wall .
  Bevan Wall Assistant Commissioner

Excellent video Bevan Wall .
BIG-BEAR

I must admit its not too difficult when its cool to cold and damp to record scenes that people will enjoy when you have a steam locomotive that has to work hard due to lack of diesel assistance.

Here's hoping Fotoz has been able to set a financially viable precedent - run a steam hauled tour without diesel assistance each year to launch the latest DVD.

You can see in the video that as the train swung around the curve behind the power station the driver abruptly cut off. If you look at the video closely you might be able to see two guys standing on the Wang end of the bridge that goes over the road to Mudgee.They were ridiculously close to the track! For about 15 minutes before the train came they had been walking along the tracks over the bridge! If the mud train from Blayney (8934) which was lurking about had come barreling around the curve they would have been in real strife. No amount of yelling could convince them to come down!
BW
  Groover Train Controller

Location: A long way from home
Booked on it, but will be VERY surprised if it sticks to the timetable...
apw5910

How was the running compared to the timetable?
  apw5910 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
How was the running compared to the timetable?
Groover

Varied between on time and up to an hour late. Some problem on the way back to Picton made for a VERY late night...
  Salty21 Junior Train Controller

Location: Canberra
I must admit its not too difficult when its cool to cold and damp to record scenes that people will enjoy when you have a steam locomotive that has to work hard due to lack of diesel assistance.

Here's hoping Fotoz has been able to set a financially viable precedent - run a steam hauled tour without diesel assistance each year to launch the latest DVD.

You can see in the video that as the train swung around the curve behind the power station the driver abruptly cut off. If you look at the video closely you might be able to see two guys standing on the Wang end of the bridge that goes over the road to Mudgee.They were ridiculously close to the track! For about 15 minutes before the train came they had been walking along the tracks over the bridge! If the mud train from Blayney (8934) which was lurking about had come barreling around the curve they would have been in real strife. No amount of yelling could convince them to come down!
BW
Bevan Wall

Again an excellent video!
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Thanks for sharing this with us, Bevan.

I had a prior engagement so was unable to participate.

5917 appeared to perform very well during the trip.

I hope that the boys can arrange another run sometime.

Fantastic to see a steam train without diesel assistance.  The last unassisted run over the mountains that I am aware of was 3642 returning from the central west in September a few years ago.  That trip was only unassisted on the Up direction.

Maybe ARHS(ACT) can arrange a trip over the mountains with 6029.  Now that would be a milestone in rail preservation!

John
  TBP Minister for Railways

Location: Singleton
Fantastic footage as always Bevan. Will this be included in a future Stories of Steam DVD?
  Clarke Hudswell Junior Train Controller

Wonderful video!

I just hope any Victorian Steamrail officials who may read this take note of the positive comments made by many regarding the lack of diesel assistance.
  Bevan Wall Assistant Commissioner

Fantastic footage as always Bevan. Will this be included in a future Stories of Steam DVD?
TBP

I've got so much material  "in the can" waiting for release in a volume of "Stories of Steam" it could be a long time before this footage is released.

If "Fotoz" had not gone to the effort to organise this trip there would have been nothing to point the camera at, so its probably more appropriate that the footage is included in the Fotoz production covering the year 2014.

If I knew how to post photos to these threads I'ld put up the drone shot of the train on the Menagle bridge - its a ripper!

BW
  Bevan Wall Assistant Commissioner

Thanks to some advice from Raichase I've been able to post this low res copy of a photo taken by Ross Wall of the Fotoz Flyer on Menangle Bridge.

http://postimg.org/image/6bj9v99o3/
  VBAndy Chief Commissioner

Clarke Hudswell, will you give it a rest? You carry on like all mainline tours in Victoria have a diesel involved, when in reality its only the tours that require them. Many tours operate with pure steam, if diesels bother you that much, ride these instead.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Thanks to some advice from Raichase I've been able to post this low res copy of a photo taken by Ross Wall of the Fotoz Flyer on Menangle Bridge.

http://postimg.org/image/6bj9v99o3/
Bevan Wall

Noticed Ross using his drone to shoot 1877 on the west a few weeks ago, looks like he gets some good results from it.
  Groover Train Controller

Location: A long way from home
Awesome image.
  Bevan Wall Assistant Commissioner

Noticed Ross using his drone to shoot 1877 on the west a few weeks ago, looks like he gets some good results from it.
Raichase

We had a few dramas with it on that trip. It is programmed to prevent it from taking off until it has established its current position after it has been switched on. You can imagine our surprise when the thing suddenly decided to lift off when it was switched it on at Brewongle. It would not respond to the remote control and instead took off to the east. We tried to follow it but the last signal we got from it showed that it was 15000 feet away! We just could not see it, let alone find it. What it had actually done was for some reason it decided to return to its last known position, which was at Locksley. It did not occur to us that that was what might have happened. Luckily there was another photographer who had stayed at Locksley and he saw it land. He had not been near the spot it had been launched from and had not seen us, so he had no idea where it had come from. That night he described what he had seen in an email to a few friends and the word eventually got around. We got the story at around 3.00 pm so Ross rushed back out to Locksley and luckily it was still sitting in exactly the same spot from which it was launched the day before. I guess we were lucky that it was only Locksley that it decided to go back to. The last time it was used prior to that location was in the Moombi Ranges! After a complete software reload it now seems to be behaving itself.

Obviously the camera on it has limitations and you can't expect the results that a high quality digital SLR camera delivers, but at around a total cost of $1200 its a great "toy" to experiment with and opens up a whole new range of photo opportunities.

BW
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Wonderful video!

I just hope any Victorian Steamrail officials who may read this take note of the positive comments made by many regarding the lack of diesel assistance.
Clarke Hudswell

Steamrail Officials have read this and will roster what ever loco's are needed for the trip. I seem to recall the Snow Train had R761 and R707 with no diesel assistance. As VBAndy state, give it a break.

I'd like your input also on this, something to look forward to in the future???


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