Rowville Rail-line musing

 
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
Sigh.  Think.  You know, with that thing in your head.

Sunbury already has a line - upgrading it is thus cost effective.

Building a massive new line to a dead growth area is not cost effective.

Your taxes pay for a transport service, not a train.

You want a rail line?  Don't move to Rowville.

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  Chidda Bang Locomotive Driver

Location: Banned
The first cost of building the line goes away after a while anyway and people in rowville are more likely to work and pay more tax which covers building them a more expensive line and also the operating cost of rowville is cheaper because itd be busier and have less fare evasion than out west Smile

If you had to build a railway right now and you had to decide sunbury or rowville everyone would pick rowville so i still think its not fair they are paying for other ppls trains Rolling Eyes
  torrens5022 Junior Train Controller

So Chidda Bang your comparing Rowville which has little undeveloped land around it to for growth and Sunbury,  both have similar populations now but in the future there will be a lot more housing between Hillside and Diggers Rest,  and Diggers Rest will grow substantially,  The suburbs will grow west towards Melton and north towards Sunbury. The Melton line has a much greater need for electrification then a line to Rowville which has stagnant growth. Much better to invest in building infrastructure to service future needs.  A line to Rowville would be nice, but areas like Sunbury and Melton which have had very little spending on rail (prior to Sunbury electrification) have a much greater need for upgrades.
  Chidda Bang Locomotive Driver

Location: Banned
Sunbury and melton both had regional fast rail then sunbury got electrification Rolling Eyes both paid for mostly by eastern suburbs taxpaiers that actually work n pay for life in the western suburbs so thats 2 big projects and nothing for rowville
  torrens5022 Junior Train Controller

What about the decades of investment prior, the Belgrave / Lilydale line has had a lot of money spent on it  How about Eastlink. The western suburbs have had little investment compared to other parts of Melbourne.  Regional fast rail is for people in the regional areas, Melton and Sunbury are metro areas and need a metro service.  It would be nice for a line to Rowville but how many billions of dollars needs to be spent to service 40,000 people, when you can spend it more wisely to service an area which will have 3 or 4 times that population in the near future.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
It would be nice for a line to Rowville but how many billions of dollars needs to be spent to service 40,000 people
torrens5022

Closer to 100,000. Passengers won't only come from the suburb surrounding the terminus - there are also the suburbs of Wheelers Hill, Mulgrave, Notting Hill, Scoresby, Lysterfield, Lysterfield South and Knoxfield which would contribute (directly or indirectly) to the passenger figures.

Never mind that there's also a whopping great university and a couple of secondary schools, which would contribute how many thousands of passengers?

If you're going to argue figures at least argue the right figures.
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity

Sunbury and melton both had regional fast rail then sunbury got electrification http://www.railpage.com.au/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif both paid for mostly by eastern suburbs taxpaiers that actually work n pay for life in the western suburbs so thats 2 big projects and nothing for rowville
Chidda Bang

You better pull your head in with your westie bashing before, in true westie fashion, I tear it off.

Need I remind you until RFR Sunbury had three hour service gaps on weekends, and still has a woeful hourly service when eastern locations have 20 minute services. Similarly with Melton, so save your faux indignation.

Much of Rowville is a similar distance from rail as Taylors Hill, Airport West, or Avondale Heights, so save it.