Qr Trainee Network Controller

 
  Leest86 Beginner

Hey everyone  just saw they are advertising for trainee controllers for qr. Im wondering if there's anyone here who is a controller? I'm thinking about applying for it but I want to know how long the training is and how difficult the testing is like.?
Im currently a shunter at mayne and been doing it for a couple of years years now and have a basic understanding of signalling within the yard and on time running, when to tell drivers to depart and some knowledge of the shunters panels changing the electric points and giving signal to drivers etc.
Just worried about failing the testing during trainee and getting told sorry mate see you later. I had some trouble as a trainee shunter in the written tests and remember some things but I managed to scrape through.

Thanks Leest86

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  alrobbo Beginner

After the experience with the on line assessment I received notice my application was not progressing any further. Interested to find out how anyone else found the experience and if they were able to proceed further. There were some elements of the assessment I did find most interesting.
  Skatya007 Beginner

Hi, I applied too and got through to the initial online test. Didn't do too well so now waiting for the no, thank you email =)

Just curious, when did you receive the notice that you're not proceeding further? Thank you.
  alrobbo Beginner

G'day Stakya007,

The on line assessment closed Sunday night, I must have received the bad news on the following Thursday. If you haven't heard by now you must still be in with a chance.

Just one of many questions, if the covering email from Quennsland Rail suggested a calculator could be used, how come none of the questions required a calculator?

Good Luck with the rest of the process.
  Skatya007 Beginner

Hi, I'm wondering about that too! I'm thinking maybe there's a train of online tests where if you get eliminated in the first round you won't go to the second part and so on.
  Fi_j Beginner

Hey guys,
I completed the online testing a few weeks ago and got an email last Wednesday apologizing for delays and I should hear from someone within the next 2 weeks as to wether I'm through to the next round. I would say we all would have sat the same test, and I would say the calculator mentioned was probably just put in there as standard. Some psychometric tests (airservices for example) require calculators.
  natlukros Beginner

Hi new to the forum.

Is the term 'network controller' the australian term for 'train dispatcher/ train controller' as used overseas?
  Fi_j Beginner

Got the go ahead email yesterday to book in a time to attend a testing/info day
  alrobbo Beginner

Congratulations for progressing. Make sure you let us know what happens next.
  Mitchasaurus Beginner

I applied a fair while ago. And did the test and so did a friend. The 26 Oct was the closing date. The Thursday after this my friend got told he was unsuccessful and I haven't heard anything since. Is anyone else in the same boat.
  caarll31 Beginner

Hi, I went for this position also. I did the online testing and a couple of weeks later got an email advising me to come for in house testing. I did the testing on Weds 19th Nov and was told it might take up to 3 weeks to find out if was successful. Has anyone else been to the testing session on Edward Street?
  JoppaJunction Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
Hi, I went for this position also. I did the online testing and a couple of weeks later got an email advising me to come for in house testing. I did the testing on Weds 19th Nov and was told it might take up to 3 weeks to find out if was successful. Has anyone else been to the testing session on Edward Street?
caarll31

What is involved in the in house testing?
  caarll31 Beginner

What is involved in the in house testing?
BenGibbons

Hi Ben, the testing involves psychometric and safety testing etc. It took about an hour and 15 mins to complete. Basically the tests seem to test your reaction times and accuracy under various conditions. I found the testing here to be a bit easier than the initial online testing, but a few tests were also harder. Perhaps being an avid gamer I found the buttons and joystick format intuitive to use. Guess I'll know in a couple of weeks how I went! Fingers crossed....
  Fi_j Beginner

Has anyone heard anything further? I've had a panel interview and now had a medical but haven't actually got any official word from QR yet. Reference checks as far as I can tell haven't been completed yet. Anyone else at this stage?
  Random_Rubik Beginner

There is a new application going for QR Trainee Network Controllers. Ends on the 9th of August 2016.

FYI
  Rookie Beginner

Hi all.

I applied for this position back in 2014 and unfortunately didn't progress past the first group session and psychomotor skills testing.  I was very pleased with the quick responses and progress of the recruitment process.

I have applied again and am still waiting to hear back as to whether I have progressed to the online psychometric testing or not.

Has anyone else applied and had a response yet, positive or negative?  I submitted my application on the 3/8/16 and applications closed on 9/8/16, I would have thought I would have heard something back by now?
  Rookie Beginner

There is a new application going for QR Trainee Network Controllers. Ends on the 9th of August 2016.

FYI
Random_Rubik
Hi Random_Rubik,

Have you applied for the job?  If so, have you had a response yet, I am still waiting?  I have considered emailing them to check the progress of my application?
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Rookie, sources tell me the first stage of online testing has been run, sorry to say.
  Rookie Beginner

Thanks locojoe67.

I actually heard back and have gotten through to the group interview/activity stage in a couple of weeks.  The delay in hearing back was because I was exempt from the online psychometric testing as I met the minimum requirements when I applied in 2014.
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Sent you a pm.
  jetaus Beginner

Hi all,

I've also been invited to a group assessment and information session in the next few weeks.

I'm sure that there will be a lot information covered in the session, but I'm curious how the training and progression points for a Train Controller work.

Obviously during your training phase, you're on the Trainee pay point and I assume when you are qualified you move to TC1 - how long does it take to move from the Trainee pay point to TC1 and what's the difference between a TC1 and a TC2?  

I can't find a lot of information online about how the different pay points work.  Again, I assume as you become more competent you are responsible for more boards, but just not sure how it's administered.

Thanks in advance.
  emmvee Beginner

Hi all,

I've also been invited to a group assessment and information session in the next few weeks.

I'm sure that there will be a lot information covered in the session, but I'm curious how the training and progression points for a Train Controller work.

Obviously during your training phase, you're on the Trainee pay point and I assume when you are qualified you move to TC1 - how long does it take to move from the Trainee pay point to TC1 and what's the difference between a TC1 and a TC2?  

I can't find a lot of information online about how the different pay points work.  Again, I assume as you become more competent you are responsible for more boards, but just not sure how it's administered.

Thanks in advance.
jetaus
Hey there

I was a TC4 controller at QR as recently as May before I took up a job over in Perth as a train controller. Generally it's six months of training - so learning all the rules and procedures. There are several exams over the course and the pass mark for each exam is 90 percent. Sounds scary but is in fact easy. Each safeworking exam (RCS, DTC, Staff and Ticket) has a practical component as well. Once you've completed your six months of training they put you on the board (normally the west board if you're in Townsville). Not sure what they do in Brisbane. You'll have a mentor for about 6 to 10 weeks before being assessed and then you can work on your own. That's when you'll gain your TC2 and you'll get your Cert IV (this is based on my time in Townsville Control). While you're on the board being mentored you'll be paid as a TC1 I think. But once you're on the board itself and doing it alone you'll get paid at the rate of the board. The West is a TC4 board for example, so you'll get paid TC4 rate. The only time you get paid TC2 is if you're on training and not working in a link which is TC4 or above. But as a starter you won't be doing any TC5 boards anyway. Suburban and North boards in Townsville are also TC4. Suburban is pretty easy now, especially since there is no Nickel running any more and the Zinc is done by trucks. So it's a piece of piss. North board is busy during the day with all the track gangs but the easist board in the control room of a night time. South boards are for the experienced controllers so you won't have to worry about them for at least 5 years. Once again, this is based on Townsville, not Brisbane. If you need any more information I'd love to be of assistance.
  twiggy Beginner

Hello Rookie,
you mentioned you were previously unsuccessful

" I applied for this position back in 2014 and unfortunately didn't progress past the first group session and psychomotor skills testing.  I was very pleased with the quick responses and progress of the recruitment process."

did Queensland rail give you feed back as to why you didn't progress the first time in the applications?

out of curiosity what was involved in the group interview and psycho motor testsing ?

regards,
  Rookie Beginner

Hey twiggy.

I didn't receive any feedback from them. I did request it after to improve for future applications but they said due to the large number of applicants they could not offer feedback.

The group interview is more of an information session about the role, roster, organisation etc.

The psychomotor tests your reaction time and accuracy in following directions. I do think however that I put too much emphasis on finishing quickly and not enough on accuracy.....????
  jetaus Beginner

Hey there

I was a TC4 controller at QR as recently as May before I took up a job over in Perth as a train controller. Generally it's six months of training - so learning all the rules and procedures. There are several exams over the course and the pass mark for each exam is 90 percent. Sounds scary but is in fact easy. Each safeworking exam (RCS, DTC, Staff and Ticket) has a practical component as well. Once you've completed your six months of training they put you on the board (normally the west board if you're in Townsville). Not sure what they do in Brisbane. You'll have a mentor for about 6 to 10 weeks before being assessed and then you can work on your own. That's when you'll gain your TC2 and you'll get your Cert IV (this is based on my time in Townsville Control). While you're on the board being mentored you'll be paid as a TC1 I think. But once you're on the board itself and doing it alone you'll get paid at the rate of the board. The West is a TC4 board for example, so you'll get paid TC4 rate. The only time you get paid TC2 is if you're on training and not working in a link which is TC4 or above. But as a starter you won't be doing any TC5 boards anyway. Suburban and North boards in Townsville are also TC4. Suburban is pretty easy now, especially since there is no Nickel running any more and the Zinc is done by trucks. So it's a piece of piss. North board is busy during the day with all the track gangs but the easist board in the control room of a night time. South boards are for the experienced controllers so you won't have to worry about them for at least 5 years. Once again, this is based on Townsville, not Brisbane. If you need any more information I'd love to be of assistance.
emmvee
Thanks very much for the reply and appreciate the info.

Am I right in understanding that a "board" relates to a certain section of the rail corridor that you are responsible for?  The more complicated the board then determines whether its a TC2, TC3 etc?

I'm guessing that based on your experience determines what boards you can operate and that once you're solo you having TC2 boards.

The positions are in Brisbane, so I'm not sure how different things are there, but the information is very helpful in understanding how the pay grades work.  The money isn't the issue as I'd be taking a pay cut for any new job that I have to learn from scratch.

How's a typical roster constructed - a few earlies, afternoons and nights?  

The exams and pass rate are all good - I'm from an environment that has very similar expectations - so I'm used to having to hit the books for initial, bi-annual and annual re-certifications.  Still break into a sweat at the thought of exams and skills assessments but at least it keeps you fresh.

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