50 level crossings to be removed

 
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

They are adding a cross-over at Anstey during construction, which is what I've heard. Also, I've heard that adding a cross-over at Gowrie where the double track ends, would be a good idea from the comments responding to the LXRA work, which would mean more frequent services across the whole Upfield line except Upfield station.
Bit of a silly question but why can't trains cross over at Gowrie already? Can't they just drive past the down junction and reverse into the other platform?
reubstar6
I seem to recall having this discussion somewhere and the conclusion was that safeworking infrastructure changes would be needed. What exactly I can't remember.

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  reubstar6 Chief Train Controller

It was probably with me last time Smile.
  LeroyW Locomotive Driver

Location: Awaiting MM2
Interesting for those that might not have picked it up:

https://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/media/news/how-to-build-a-bridge

Works at Reservoir have reached the point where above ground steel cages are being placed on top of the piles, ready for the piers to be poured.
  tayser Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Old Geelong Road in Hoppers, Cherry Street and Werribee Street in Werribee preferred designs announced (after all three are done, there would be no more level crossings in Wyndham).

Interestingly, two of the three preferred designs are to build roads over rail in different locations.  Werribee Street preferred design is a rail bridge over the existing roadway.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMvyt_BxPTU

  ngarner Junior Train Controller

Location: Seville
A small drill rig at work at Maroondah Hwy, Lilydale today on the south east corner of the crossing, squeezed in between the rail line and William St East

Neil
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Werribee Street preferred design is a rail bridge over the existing roadway.
I'm guessing during the works that the broad gauge line will be closed between Werribee Station and the RRL Manor Junction, permitting the standard gauge line to be slewed onto the Down BG easement (providing room to build the viaduct for the SG track)
When the SG track returns to It's easement over the new viaduct, work can than start on building a double track viaduct for the BG tracks.

BG traffic will have to go via RRL during the works.

There Is still a level crossing at Galvin Road, a back road that Is experiencing a surge In traffic, from Wydham Vale traffic trying to reach the freeway without going through Werribee (this route will probably need a substantial upgrade)
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
There is a proposal on the table for a major new interface with the developments on the south side of werribee and the princess freeway that will deal with the Galvin Rd crossing.

As a local resident that uses all these crossings in werribee the cherry st and hoppers options as proposed look pretty good and by and large will be supported i think. Only proposed land acquisition is a motel site in hoppers, which should be a good windfall for them. Anything up to $1.5-$1.75m i would think.

am not sure there will be much support for option 2 at cherry st. aside from the big hole they will need to dig, because of the oil pipeline being there it will delay the project considerably. They have to have 2 years notice before a shutdown of it.

Am seeing a lot of comments on facebook around single lanes in the artist impressions. People need to remember that they are just that, artist impressions, as well as being no more than what they have now.

The werribee st crossing is probably about as good as they could get without spending a lot more coin. I was hoping for a more substantial re-work of the whole area traffic wise, but they clearly feel they cant do it within their breif. Option 2 here wont get any support.

Agreed that while the works are being done there will be no BG past werribee station. The wyndhamvale connection gives them the ability to do that with ease. No disruption to downtrack passenger or freight services. There are restrictions on the amount of time the SG can be closed per year, which i think from memory is something like 36 hours. Closing the BG and moving the SG over as far as they can will be the only way of doing this.
  Mickeyb91 Station Staff

The Werribee Line options are interesting. I’m intrigued to see how they handle the traffic management on the south side of Cherry Street, with a lot more traffic turning right off the Princes Hwy, up onto Cherry Street to get to Woolworths and Watton Street.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
Watton st is a mess on a good day traffic wise. The changes I doubt will have a noticeable impact. Those going into Woolworths or Bunnings I doubt will be many in comparison to through traffic towards Melbourne, but without access to the traffic stats I can’t be certain.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Trapped in a meeting with Rhonda and Karsten
I'm guessing during the works that the broad gauge line will be closed between Werribee Station and the RRL Manor Junction, permitting the standard gauge line to be slewed onto the Down BG easement (providing room to build the viaduct for the SG track) When the SG track returns to It's easement over the new viaduct, work can than start on building a double track viaduct for the BG tracks.
Nightfire
More likely is that the BG tracks will indeed be closed and the whole 3 track viaduct will be constructed on that formation and on the southern side of it if needed. There’s plenty of space at Werribee St to allow that. That way there’s no need to slew any tracks, reducing the occupation time required for the ARTC track.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

Anyone like this potential idea to connect Point cook with the Hopper Crossing level crossing removal preferred option link.

It can be done at a later stage and only removes a temporary park. The bend might be a little sharp, but I think it seems possible.

  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
Anyone like this potential idea to connect Point cook with the Hopper Crossing level crossing removal preferred option link.

It can be done at a later stage and only removes a temporary park. The bend might be a little sharp, but I think it seems possible.

True Believers


Interesting option. Snydes Rd intersection is only about 1-2 km around to corner towards geelong, and is a far better option for the way trafic is through that area.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Anyone like this potential idea to connect Point cook with the Hopper Crossing level crossing removal preferred option link.

It can be done at a later stage and only removes a temporary park. The bend might be a little sharp, but I think it seems possible.



Interesting option. Snydes Rd intersection is only about 1-2 km around to corner towards geelong, and is a far better option for the way trafic is through that area.
Galron
Probably be much better to provide a shared pathway between The Upper Point Cook Bicycle Park and Hoopers Crossing Station and Shopping Centre (to try and lour people away from their cars)
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
The only way this option would have a chance would be for a direct link melbourne bound as well. not sure i'm seeing that in what you have here. Another exit melbourne bound is BADLY needed for that area.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
There is a proposal on the table for a major new interface with the developments on the south side of werribee and the princess freeway that will deal with the Galvin Rd crossing.
Galron

Princess Question

It isn't princess, princess Exclamation

M.
  historian Deputy Commissioner

Anyone like this potential idea to connect Point cook with the Hopper Crossing level crossing removal preferred option link.

It can be done at a later stage and only removes a temporary park. The bend might be a little sharp, but I think it seems possible.

True Believers

Nup. The LXRA has been quite clear they are in the business of removing level crossings. They don't fund add on rail projects, even if the project is sensible. Why should they fund an add on road capacity project?
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

Anyone like this potential idea to connect Point cook with the Hopper Crossing level crossing removal preferred option link.

It can be done at a later stage and only removes a temporary park. The bend might be a little sharp, but I think it seems possible.


Nup. The LXRA has been quite clear they are in the business of removing level crossings. They don't fund add on rail projects, even if the project is sensible. Why should they fund an add on road capacity project?
historian
The LXRA has been quite clear they are in the business of removing level crossings. Agreed

They don't fund add on rail projects. But they have done, Mernda Rail, Hurstbridge rail upgrade, Kananook stabling, Wyndham Vale stabling. The barrier here is the allocation of funding.

The Major Roads Authority could easily tackle this project, although the major barrier is funding as usual.

Also, a shared walking path sounds very sensible too, connecting people to walk between Point Cook and Hoppers Crossing.
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
I'm hoping that Cherry St includes a new pedestrian overpass at the existing point. Although, it's probably close enough to the station underpass that they would justify not having any pedestrian crossing there at all.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

I'm hoping that Cherry St includes a new pedestrian overpass at the existing point. Although, it's probably close enough to the station underpass that they would justify not having any pedestrian crossing there at all.
TOQ-1

If the preferred option to divert via the new Tarneit road alignment, they will build a pedestrian underpass at the existing cherry street crossing.

  historian Deputy Commissioner

The LXRA has just announced that Glenroy Rd will be a trench under. No details yet, apart from there will be a new station.

(Yes, I know, what a surprise, given Oliver's bank).
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
The LXRA has just announced that Glenroy Rd will be a trench under. No details yet, apart from there will be a new station.

(Yes, I know, what a surprise, given Oliver's bank).
historian
A rail trench/cutting not Glenroy Road I assume?
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
I'm hoping that Cherry St includes a new pedestrian overpass at the existing point. Although, it's probably close enough to the station underpass that they would justify not having any pedestrian crossing there at all.

If the preferred option to divert via the new Tarneit road alignment, they will build a pedestrian underpass at the existing cherry street crossing.

True Believers
Thanks, I missed that detail in the video. Interesting ramp design.
  historian Deputy Commissioner

The LXRA has just announced that Glenroy Rd will be a trench under. No details yet, apart from there will be a new station.

(Yes, I know, what a surprise, given Oliver's bank).
A rail trench/cutting not Glenroy Road I assume?
YM-Mundrabilla
Yep, rail trench
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
The LXRA has just announced that Glenroy Rd will be a trench under. No details yet, apart from there will be a new station.

(Yes, I know, what a surprise, given Oliver's bank).
A rail trench/cutting not Glenroy Road I assume?
Yep, rail trench
historian
Many thanks.
Only reasonable (not to be regarded as a precedent, of course) choice.
  reubstar6 Chief Train Controller

I hope that they replace the level crossing with a large roundabout or two roundabouts like in some English towns. There are so many local rounds feeding in there that it would be kind of pointless having two sets of traffic lights where the crossing used to be. Roundabouts are logical, safe and efficient. We really do need more of them!

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