50 level crossings to be removed

 
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The Caulfield-Dandenong Skyrail won an award at the Australian Institute of Landscape Architecture this week:

https://www.domain.com.au/news/sky-rail-and-bike-path-win-top-awards-for-landscape-architecture-891966/
I actually found this article while looking at a real estate site, which I thought was interesting.  Quote: "some residents opposed the replacement sky rail on the grounds of aesthetics or privacy.  But many locals have come around, saying it has not affected property values or sparked anti-social behaviour as feared."
Adogs
The No Skyrails group seems to of run right out of puff, only their Carrum sub branch Is active wingding and moaning  about the progress on the Carrum project.

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  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

The Caulfield-Dandenong Skyrail won an award at the Australian Institute of Landscape Architecture this week:

https://www.domain.com.au/news/sky-rail-and-bike-path-win-top-awards-for-landscape-architecture-891966/
I actually found this article while looking at a real estate site, which I thought was interesting.  Quote: "some residents opposed the replacement sky rail on the grounds of aesthetics or privacy.  But many locals have come around, saying it has not affected property values or sparked anti-social behaviour as feared."
The No Skyrails group seems to of run right out of puff, only their Carrum sub branch Is active wingding and moaning  about the progress on the Carrum project.
Nightfire
they were all huff and no puff...................
  chomper Junior Train Controller

Safety first at the Reservoir level crossing removal...



https://youtu.be/oXLsbiUUt7g
  Adogs Chief Train Controller

The Caulfield-Dandenong Skyrail won an award at the Australian Institute of Landscape Architecture this week:

https://www.domain.com.au/news/sky-rail-and-bike-path-win-top-awards-for-landscape-architecture-891966/
I actually found this article while looking at a real estate site, which I thought was interesting.  Quote: "some residents opposed the replacement sky rail on the grounds of aesthetics or privacy.  But many locals have come around, saying it has not affected property values or sparked anti-social behaviour as feared."
The No Skyrails group seems to of run right out of puff, only their Carrum sub branch Is active wingding and moaning  about the progress on the Carrum project.
Nightfire

Even as a Carrum/Seaford local, I haven't really noticed any NoSkyRail stuff in ages.  There were plenty of signs up before last year's state election, but they've long since disappeared.  Party funding must've dried up Wink

Carrum's looking like an explosion in a sandpit with concrete sticking out of it at the moment, but at least it's ticking along quickly.
  ngarner Train Controller

Location: Seville
Anti Skyrail are still floating around on Twitter, supported by David Davis, but they're just banging on same old drum but not making much impression even there

Neil
  Rossco T Chief Train Controller

Location: Camberwell, Victoria
Anti Skyrail are still floating around on Twitter, supported by David Davis, but they're just banging on same old drum but not making much impression even there

Neil
ngarner

I think anti-skyrail has run its race.  Time for the Liberals and in particular David Davis to get over it.

The facts speak for themselves, all the skyrail seats swung heavily to the ALP at the last election.

Skyrail is great for the community creating a heap of new open space, much better than a big ugly trench!

Ross
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

LXRA have caught up with the government's press releases; they're counting Laverton as done now.
I agree Reservoir should be ready long before the Carrum group are but the Station St crossing is effectively gone now; i.e #31. Reservoir will be #32 and the other Carrum ones be #33+ when they are completed in due time.

Neil
ngarner
Found this snippet here: https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/daily-hansard/Assembly_2019/Legislative_Assembly_2019-10-16.pdf page 69,70

Mr. ANDREWS: ~ in fact 30 level crossings are gone with the removal of a level crossing at Aviation Road. I know the member for Altona, a great champion on behalf of the Laverton community, is very, very pleased to be able to celebrate that milestone. I can advise the member for Preston, another great champion for his community, that number 31 is about to go to High Street, Reservoir. The member for Carrum—what a champion for her community, and so strongly supported by her community—can celebrate that number 32 and number 33 will be gone from her local community.
  thekingoffoxes Chief Train Controller

Update at the New Kananook Stabling, looks like some work is already finished..
I guess this replaced the capacity lost at Carrum?


https://youtu.be/zdBckDNUC0E
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Update at the New Kananook Stabling, looks like some work is already finished..
I guess this replaced the capacity lost at Carrum?
thekingoffoxes

Yes, they've been using the new yard access siding to stable sets for a few weeks now.  
I've seen quite a few lined up alongside the freeway while driving to work lately.
  ptvcommuter Train Controller

With the elevated rail project on the Caulfield-Dandenong Line, the LXRA mentions it as being completed. However, the station canopies on most if not all of the stations have not been finished and completed. What’s the go with that ?
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
With the elevated rail project on the Caulfield-Dandenong Line, the LXRA mentions it as being completed. However, the station canopies on most if not all of the stations have not been finished and completed. What’s the go with that ?
ptvcommuter
As far as I'm aware they are complete.
  ngarner Train Controller

Location: Seville
The Premier's media release team have been busy today.
Cardinia Rd works have apparently begun with construction of a bypass road beginning. In the release it says that when the other three Pakenham crossings are removed there will be a third track and platform built for better interchanges, to be completed by 2025.
The new elevated Reservoir station is announced as scheduled to open December 16th and, in this release, they mention, in passing, plans for new stations at Bell and Preston as well as the the high capacity signal equipment being installed, between Epping and South Morang, between December 2nd and 15th while the cut-over for Reservoir happens.

Neil
  Llib7 Beginner

Anti Skyrail are still floating around on Twitter, supported by David Davis, but they're just banging on same old drum but not making much impression even there

Neil

I think anti-skyrail has run its race.  Time for the Liberals and in particular David Davis to get over it.

The facts speak for themselves, all the skyrail seats swung heavily to the ALP at the last election.

Skyrail is great for the community creating a heap of new open space, much better than a big ugly trench!

Ross

Look up #skyrail they are still pretty active.

If you want some cheap entertainment you will see some of their nonsensical
arguments listed below

- Oil dropped on ground (literally a few drops and they took a few photos)
- Minor graffiti (some pillars do get attacked but very tame compared to any other rail corridor)
- Any petty crime that happens near it
- Any sort of maintenance or works to try and prove that its disruptive when in one case just one parking space was temporarily closed and a lot of it was related to drainage works that had nothing to do with skyrail but happened to be close by.  
- Any incident involving a truck hitting a bridge (they have been doing a lot of that recently)
- The fact that the ground got wet after rain but saying a flood was developing.
- Arguing that all the shops had closed when vacancy rates are in fact lower than average which is even more remarkable considering the years of construction.  
- Someone left rubbish on a seat and again they took a photo
- This was one is good, a planning mistake happened in a linear park somewhere else.

I am not making these things up these are the things they are still actively arguing at #skyrail and I think you will guess who I am pretty quickly. (Sorry Ross I mixed up the quotes please ignore the placement of this reply it should below your signature)



Rossco T
  historian Deputy Commissioner

Took a trip down to Frankston yesterday to see what's happening.

At Cheltenham the land on the west (Up) side of the line has been cleared. Houses have been demolished between Churchill Ave and Park Rd (at the north end), and a bunch of shops between Charman Rd and Bladgon St (at the South End). The car park and access road that used to be between the station and the cemetery has been ripped up. The keepers cottage at the cemetery is untouched, as is the station itself. The car parks on the Down side of the station on either side of Park Rd are being used (partially) as works depots. My guess is that they will close the station, demolish it, and build temporary tracks on the Up side of the current station while digging on the current alignment.

The pedestrian footpath that used to parallel the line on the Up side south of Cheltenham is closed and is being dug up.

Work at Mentone doesn't seem to be as advanced, and seems to be limited to clearing vegetation and car parking south of the station to Warrigal Rd on both sides of the line. A big works depot has been established on the old car park on the Down side of the line (the former goods yard.)

Work on the grade separations at Edithvale and Bonbeach is limited to putting up signs on the fences saying that grade separation is coming.

At Carrum (for those that don't know) a temporary line has been provided on the Down side between the Up side of the old level crossing and Eel Race Rd. The abutments at each end of the new rail bridge are nearly completed. Almost all of the piers have been constructed, with the exception of four in the vicinity of the new alignment of the road crossing. They are still working on the foundations of these piers - the spans involved seem to be longer than the rest, so, presumably the foundations are more involved. South of the missing piers, most of the spans have been erected (lacking about five at the extreme south end), together with what appears to be about half of the platform deck.

The spans at Carrum are different to those used on the Caulfield - Oakleigh section. These are formed from two beams - a right and left half that span the complete distance between two piers. Each beam is a moderately complex shape - a portion of the floor of the box girder, a vertical wall of the box girder, a portion of the floor of the track box, and the vertical wall of the track box. After the beams are erected, the remaining metre or so of the floor of the box girder (and probably the bottom of the track box) are cast in situ. No doubt this construction reflects the lifting capacity of the cranes.

One of the latest style of substations is being constructed on the Up side of the line immediately north of Eel Race Road. (This is the style that is mounted on a steel frame about a metre above ground level.)

Resignalling work is being carried out south of Eel Race Rd. Not surprisingly, axle counters are being installed.

A new works depot has been erected south of Seaford station on the Down side of the line. This probably replaced the depot at Carrum, which, of course, has been demolished.

As has already been reported, a new stabling siding has been provided on the Down side of the line north of Kananook. This pretty much extends from Seaford Road to beyond the Down end of Kananook platform, and will eventually form the access track for the new depot at Kananook. At the moment, six 6 car sets can stable in the track. The siding is connected to the Down line at both ends, with a crossover at each end to the Up line. The siding was brought into service during the shut that demolished Carrum. The siding is worked from Frankston.

Work on the bigger stabling stabling sidings at Kananook is limited to earthworks - judging by the number of pipes and pits stacked around they are still doing drainage work.

A new substation has been constructed on the Up side of the line north of the Wells Rd bridge.

The new station building at Frankston is certainly looks impressive. The roof of the building must be about 8 metres up, with a skirt about half this height all the way around the edge. This leaves a huge gap between the bottom of the skirt and the platform, which must be completely rain swept in a strong southerly. Fortunately they're not at all frequent in Melbourne in winter.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Work on the bigger stabling stabling sidings at Kananook is limited to earthworks - judging by the number of pipes and pits stacked around they are still doing drainage work.
historian
Interesting to note that nothing has happened to the caravan yard on the corner yet either.  
The earthworks have gone right up to the fence but not beyond.  

The caravan dealer themselves have not advertised a move at all yet.   I wonder if they've found a compromise to keep them there?
  slowcoach Locomotive Driver



3 month closure for Upfield Line to remove 4 level crossings with a concrete bridge in the latter half of 2020.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

3 month closure for Upfield Line to remove 4 level crossings with a concrete bridge in the latter half of 2020.
slowcoach

And also on the news was the route 58 will have E-class trams running on it soon, testing underway. So yeah hmmm, that means when the closure happens the route 58 will have higher capacity trams running through there giving it a good alternative route when the closure happens.
  slowcoach Locomotive Driver

3 month closure for Upfield Line to remove 4 level crossings with a concrete bridge in the latter half of 2020.

And also on the news was the route 58 will have E-class trams running on it soon, testing underway. So yeah hmmm, that means when the closure happens the route 58 will have higher capacity trams running through there giving it a good alternative route when the closure happens.
True Believers
I'm guessing those new E-class trams will be stored at Southbank as Essendon doesn't have adequate space to store any more trams, right?
  drunkill Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Australia
With the elevated rail project on the Caulfield-Dandenong Line, the LXRA mentions it as being completed. However, the station canopies on most if not all of the stations have not been finished and completed. What’s the go with that ?
ptvcommuter
They are complete.

However, the end of the platforms have provision for extra smaller canopies to be installed when the station platforms are lengthened, attaching to the light poles.
  Adogs Chief Train Controller

https://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/media/news/updated-designs-announced-for-toorak-road
Step 1: Announce a not-very-pretty design, which you know people will complain about.
Step 2: Let people complain for a bit.
Step 3: Announce a slightly prettier design, with a bit more greenery, to demonstrate you were "listening to feedback".

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Step 18: Try and finish the project to an aesthetic standard that the public rates as "not as bad as we were worried it was going to be", which is close enough to a win.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

2km of Skyrail for Preston (Mernda Line):
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/four-preston-level-crossings-to-go/

Early works to remove four dangerous and congested level crossings, build two new stations and a two kilometre stretch of elevated rail in Preston will start next year.

Premier Daniel Andrews and Minister for Transport Infrastructure Jacinta Allan today confirmed the Andrews Labor Government will build a two-kilometre rail bridge to remove level crossings at Bell Street, Cramer Street, Murray Road and Oakover Road.

Thoughts:
Probably makes sense given there's a 1 in 51 grade between Preston and Regent which will be a lot less with Skyrail.  A bit of a steep climb-out after the Miller St overpass at the Southern end to clear Oakover Rd.
  chomper Junior Train Controller

The Preston level crossing removal in my completely uninformed opinion was the perfect opportunity to create the lead in for Metro 2. Would cost more (not that we're being told what this one will cost), but is far more future proof and ensures a more consistent grade.
  John E Station Master

The Preston level crossing removal in my completely uninformed opinion was the perfect opportunity to create the lead in for Metro 2. Would cost more (not that we're being told what this one will cost), but is far more future proof and ensures a more consistent grade.
chomper
Are you suggesting that the the Preston Level crossings be in a trench instead?

I think that there is more than enough distance between Oakover Road and a tunnel near Merri station that it doesn't matter that these removals are Elevated rail.

I am not sure how the Elevated rail is less future proof that alternatives? I don't think a consistent grade has a big bearing on this project or future projects.

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