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Sandown Exhibition - March 7-9 2015

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      Iain Chief Commissioner

    Location: Concord, NSW
    I wonder what the easy SEM kits are? Or to rephrase what are the hard SEM kits?

    In the wonderful world of military modelling there are kits with huge numbers of fiddly parts, vague instructions, kits that are just wrong .... I would rate SEM just below Tamyia who lead the pack in terms of accuracy, quality and buildability, the kits are simple and easy to construct  - the bending of wire being the only major difficulty I have ever noted. I am not by any means a accomplished or master kit builder.

    As for time - well I don't have much for modelling and perhaps I should make more time for relaxation purposes. But in terms of RTR well I ordered the Eureka E wagons having kitbashed one from SEM parts and the AMK kit. The construction took about 5 months of intermittent work - the RTR E is still on the promised list now according to Ron, November this year - is it 4 years for the model? So much for the immediacy of the RTR model. Is there some other factor at work Auscision seem to be very good at generating excitement and promoting their models.

    Iain
    Posted: 10 Mar 2015 09:17

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      MtBeenak Train Controller

    I noted Austrains was not present and now I guess I know why!  I was also expecting to see Brunel Hobbies, but did not, so I guess I am off to Cheltenham.
    Posted: 10 Mar 2015 13:55
      michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

    Location: Melbourne
    Michael FFS!!
    comtrain
    Uhhh...care to elaborate on that outburst? Or should we just nuke it as a non-constructive post?
    Posted: 10 Mar 2015 14:03
      ARodH Chief Train Controller

    Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
    Austrains were most likely only at http://www.nsrma.com.au/exhibition.htm for that weekend, as for easy SEM kits I think that any of their 4-wheel that isn't the the sheep wagon could count before detailing.
    Posted: 10 Mar 2015 14:12
      TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

    Location: Ankh Morpork
    I asked the guys at my club. That's my evidence. Should you fit into the category of RTR to the hilt, be that as it may. I definately feel like i have less time than the older guys at the club, and we've had some interesting chats on it. Whilst not everyone did, 70-75% fitted with what i said

    I stand by my comment.

    Regards
    davesvline
    I would not regard that as a scientific piece of research. As the number of working hours in the week have been fixed for quite some time now, you have exactly the same amount of leisure time to allocate as you see fit. Some choose to spend it on models, other spend it with family, but in reality you would not be pressed for time any more than the previous generation.

    What does happen though, is that the current generation of modellers claim they don't have time for assembling kits, when in reality, they are accustomed to the instant gratification of RTR purchases. Also, the current generation of modellers were not schooled in any of the skills useful in assembling kits, as manual skills are not taught in schools any longer.
    Posted: 10 Mar 2015 14:17
      Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: University of Adelaide SA
    I asked the guys at my club. That's my evidence.  
    davesvline
    No, that's their opinion, and not your or anybody else's evidence.
    Posted: 10 Mar 2015 15:33
      MtBeenak Train Controller

    When I was younger I spent most of my free time reading books or magazines; researching my modelling subjects and building models or layouts.  These days I still read, but have added computer time; looking at websites and participating in forums (fora?).  This can be a hobby in itself.  My computer now consumes a lot of my free time when it works, and even more when it doesn't.  It is ironic that people complain about having less time for modelling on a modelling forum on the internet!

    My New Years Resolution should have been to spend less time on the computer and more at exhibitions and actually modelling!
    Posted: 10 Mar 2015 19:11
      comtrain Chief Commissioner

    Location: Near Albury Wodonga
    Uhhh...care to elaborate on that outburst? Or should we just nuke it as a non-constructive post?
    michaelgreenhill
    Just a little tired of Michael's constant simplistic corrections of others posts. He is a rather pedantic type and in most cases his correction remarks are unnecessary, unless we need him to know how important he really is. Do what you like, its your page, after all.
    Very Happy


    just to remind you Michael s. wrote..
    This is NOT a Powerline Models display, it is part of the TrainWorld stall. Those SCT loco's are not Powerline products.
       Poath Junction

    Isn't that exactly the same as saying

    This is not a persons hand, it is  thumb which might be considered a finger, and the model was not picked up with the hand, it was by the fingers?

    TrainWorld Powerline and Powerline Direct are all part of the same conglomeration, and as such any  qualification is really unnecessary nit picking, No? Who cares if some extra individuals do not carry over to all parts of the body?
    Cheers
    Rod Young
    Posted: 10 Mar 2015 21:46

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      Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

    Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
    just to remind you Michael s. wrote..
    This is NOT a Powerline Models display, it is part of the TrainWorld stall. Those SCT loco's are not Powerline products.
       Poath Junction

    Isn't that exactly the same as saying

    This is not a persons hand, it is  thumb which might be considered a finger, and the model was not picked up with the hand, it was by the fingers?

    TrainWorld Powerline and Powerline Direct are all part of the same conglomeration, and as such any  qualification is really unnecessary nit picking, No? Who cares if some extra individuals do not carry over to all parts of the body?
    Cheers
    Rod Young
    comtrain
    A more accurate analogy would be:
    Michael has a hand with fingers and thumbs. Rod has a hand with fingers and thumbs. Michael has picked up the model using his hand. Rod is NOT holding the model in his hand. Michael has dropped the model on his big toe and broken it (the toe, not the well made model!). Rods toe is not affected in any way by the injury to Michaels toe.

    Powerline P/L is indeed the parent of Powerline Direct. Trainworld is a separate legal entity, as is AEP (events organiser of the Sandown exhibition), Brians accounting business, and a few other business endeavours that in one way or another all have Brians involvement or legal interest.  Powerline has been owned by various people over the years, and I'm sure if you offer enough money you could become the latest owner however when you take ownership of Powerline P/L you will NOT become the owner of Trainworld, AEP or Brians accounting business, and you will NOT take ownership or have any rights over the SCT model.
    Posted: 11 Mar 2015 02:01
      comtrain Chief Commissioner

    Location: Near Albury Wodonga
    Michael it is all still irrelevant and does not concern most of us in the least. Comport is the face and he represents both the shop and the Powerline Company. Perhaps He has taken control of the SCT project if John is telling it right, or in the least is operating all the Chinese side of the business. And it does not matter in the least to anybody else other than to Comport and the Tax office which hat he wears, doing it.

    Putting the two outside projects in a glass box 30 feet away from the Train World stand (next to the recycling bin) further reinforced in every bodies mind that it was not TrainWorld, despite all your protestations. And that does not matter in the least, does it?  Gosh more often than not I hear Comport's  name spelled with an 's' rather than a 't' and that makes no difference either.
    So now we have had a page full of conversation after your pedantic corrections. Not a thing to do with G or 81 Class or S cars or the Exhibition, and so my comment..... which ends it for me Sad
    Cheers
    Rod Young
    Posted: 11 Mar 2015 10:55

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      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Back on topic, has anyone actually acquired an L Class and can they provide any feedback?
    Posted: 11 Mar 2015 13:57
      dthead Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Back on topic, has anyone actually acquired an L Class and can they provide any feedback?
    bevans

    Actually better to look at theAuscision Log thread, mor eL class action there....

    In regards to the Sandown show, they hope to expand it in ways next year.

    Regards,
    David Head
    Posted: 11 Mar 2015 14:43
      comtrain Chief Commissioner

    Location: Near Albury Wodonga
    What do people think about the show this year?
    I very much liked the Australian based layouts presented, and that they were actually not just based on Victoria. Many thanks to the Exhibitors who traveled distances to entertain us.

    As for me I was disappointed in the Trade stands, as being a Country fella, I do most of my purchases at Exhibitions. In fact if it was not for those very nice layouts I wasted my money on this trip.
    I hope Canberra turns it on for me in a few weeks time.
    Auscision was a let down. Train World was just another toy shop, and the best trade stand was SEM and I was not much interested in kits this trip Austrains don't go. SDS goodies are still coming and even Southern had nothing for me this time. None of the South Australian wagons had arrived, and the SAR cattle vans sold out early.

    Now David's post has me intrigued Smile  What does that mean?
    Cheers
    Rod Young
    Posted: 11 Mar 2015 21:51
      dthead Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Got you Rod Smile

    The idea is  still forming and will depend on several other clubs committing tot he idea, club never been to Sandown. Nothing really to mention until  it happens. And then i'd let them spill the beans. I like the idea and hope we can set it in motion.

    I do not want to announce anything theat may not happen, and it is the organiser's right to let us know.

    I were there sat & sun and enjoyed the show.

    Regards,
    David Head
    Posted: 11 Mar 2015 21:57
      comtrain Chief Commissioner

    Location: Near Albury Wodonga
    Got you Rod Smile

    The idea is  still forming and will depend on several other clubs committing tot he idea, club never been to Sandown. Nothing really to mention until  it happens. And then i'd let them spill the beans. I like the idea and hope we can set it in motion.

    I do not want to announce anything theat may not happen, and it is the organiser's right to let us know.

    I were there sat & sun and enjoyed the show.

    Regards,
    David Head
    That's good David,
    Should be interesting. If they themselves are looking at re-inventing themselves, all I can say is I can see why.
    I still believe we have a real problem with Easter changing dates by  a few weeks each year, that Sandown and LaTrobe are too close together, and some times MUCH too close. I believe that will have to change in the future as well, but of course that is not Sandown's problem, is it?
    Cheers
    Rod Young
    Posted: 11 Mar 2015 22:19

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