Location: Melbourne, Australia
Canberra yard to receive funding for upgrades for freight just announced. This is good news for the local freight business.
$1 million for upgrading rail siding at the Canberra Railway Freight Terminal (Fyshwick)
bevans
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
freightgate
Minister for Railways
Location: Albury, New South Wales
Is the yard in in good shape otherwise ?
SEMartin
Chief Train Controller
Location: Canberra ACT
Is the yard in in good shape otherwise ?Freightgate - The current yard in Kingston has had it, particularly the access road (largely unmade) and 'hardstand' area (compacted earth). Huge potholes and poorly drained. Not to mention the zig-zag train movements required to get a train out of the yard and onto the mainline.
Today's Canberra Times has a story on Access Recycling's plans for a new intermodal terminal that will use the former Shell fuel terminal in Fyshwick and the long southern shunting lead that once served many private sidings in Fyshwick. Rail access was removed from the Shell site and remaining tank wagons scrapped earlier this year.
S.
tazzer96
Chief Commissioner
Reinstatement of the disused portion of what is now the north shunting neck and a simple turnout would solve the zig zagging arrangement to get onto the mainline
LowndesJ515
#TeamRog
Location: Not in Victoria
Reinstatement of the disused portion of what is now the north shunting neck and a simple turnout would solve the zig zagging arrangement to get onto the mainline
The whole entire North Shunt is in operation and used by the ARHS.
I'm hearing that there will be points installed to the South Shunt line and the South Shunt will be where the hardstand will be installed for Access to load their trains.
SEMartin
Chief Train Controller
Location: Canberra ACT
Fixing the North Shunt access problem doesn't deal with the fact that there are serious subsidence and drainage problems on the 'hardstanding' (i.e. compacted soil) at the current loading point. Also, the continued buildout of the Kingston Foreshore residential development along the Causeway towards the railway yards will mean Access Recycling will have to move in any case.Reinstatement of the disused portion of what is now the north shunting neck and a simple turnout would solve the zig zagging arrangement to get onto the mainline
The whole entire North Shunt is in operation and used by the ARHS.
x31
Chief Commissioner
Location: gallifrey
Reinstatement of the disused portion of what is now the north shunting neck and a simple turnout would solve the zig zagging arrangement to get onto the mainline
The whole entire North Shunt is in operation and used by the ARHS.
I'm hearing that there will be points installed to the South Shunt line and the South Shunt will be where the hardstand will be installed for Access to load their trains.
Thanks for the update.
What was historically accessed on the South Shunt?
SEMartin
Chief Train Controller
Location: Canberra ACT
Thanks for the update.The most recent siding accessed via South Shunt was the Shell fuel terminal near the Ipswich Street overbridge. Rail access was cut to the fuel unloading terminal earlier this year. There were also a range of industrial sidings (mostly cement) that came off the south shunt.
What was historically accessed on the South Shunt?
bevans
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
The most recent siding accessed via South Shunt was the Shell fuel terminal near the Ipswich Street overbridge. Rail access was cut to the fuel unloading terminal earlier this year. There were also a range of industrial sidings (mostly cement) that came off the south shunt.
Do these businesses still exist?
billbunter
Beginner
Is the yard in in good shape otherwise ?Freightgate - The current yard in Kingston has had it, particularly the access road (largely unmade) and 'hardstand' area (compacted earth). Huge potholes and poorly drained. Not to mention the zig-zag train movements required to get a train out of the yard and onto the mainline.
Today's Canberra Times has a story on Access Recycling's plans for a new intermodal terminal that will use the former Shell fuel terminal in Fyshwick and the long southern shunting lead that once served many private sidings in Fyshwick. Rail access was removed from the Shell site and remaining tank wagons scrapped earlier this year.
S.
SEMartin
Chief Train Controller
Location: Canberra ACT
Do these businesses still exist?A couple of cement places exist in Fyshwick, but not connected by rail. There were plenty of sidings off the north and south shunts, but pretty much all rail connections are gone.
As stated earlier, the Shell terminal was demolished in early 2016. Other fuel terminals were disconnected from rail long ago.
bevans
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Do these businesses still exist?A couple of cement places exist in Fyshwick, but not connected by rail. There were plenty of sidings off the north and south shunts, but pretty much all rail connections are gone.
As stated earlier, the Shell terminal was demolished in early 2016. Other fuel terminals were disconnected from rail long ago.
The smart country.
rgmccau
Junior Train Controller
Location: Canberra
The South Shunt had the Shell sidings and 3 others. One went quite a long way down between the buildings to I think (what was) a cement plant(?). At least one of the others went to a triangular(?) warehouse. There was also another siding right back near Kingston (now the Toll yard). The remains are all quite visible on Google Earth.
The North Shunt had 3 fuel sidings, 2 factories (one still has a sliding door in the back wall - Herzog Steel I think), and at least 3 other sidings. One was in use for cement at least in the 90s.
Ross McConchie
Canberra
The North Shunt had 3 fuel sidings, 2 factories (one still has a sliding door in the back wall - Herzog Steel I think), and at least 3 other sidings. One was in use for cement at least in the 90s.
Ross McConchie
Canberra
bevans
Site Admin
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Ross would toll be interested in intermodal opportunities?
Salty21
Junior Train Controller
Location: Canberra
Has the upgrade been commenced ?
steven_h
Train Controller
Location: Melbourne, Australia
This is all a bit sad, come to think of it. The money was promised and the work would've allowed stable loading of wagons. Instead the work (if it even happens) is now too little too late as the freight contract has failed and the Museum has gone under.
apw5910
Deputy Commissioner
Location: Location: Location.
The Museum is certainly hurting, and the future is not certain, but it hasn't gone under just yet.
Clyde Goodwin
Junior Train Controller
will this idea still go on now
trainz64
Station Master
Location: Sydney
Also interested in what has happened to this idea...
bingley hall
Minister for Railways
Location: Last train to Skaville
It's in the hands of the customer.
Clyde Goodwin
Junior Train Controller
Bingly Hall Thank you for that
james.au
Minister for Railways
Location: Sydney, NSW
@Bingley, thats a little cryptic for me - care to elaborate?
nswtrains
Chief Commissioner
@Bingley, thats a little cryptic for me - care to elaborate?Bingley just stating the obvious. It is probably a non-goer,
bingley hall
Minister for Railways
Location: Last train to Skaville
I'd probably say about 50/50.@Bingley, thats a little cryptic for me - care to elaborate?Bingley just stating the obvious. It is probably a non-goer,
The customer in this case recognises the benefits of rail, at least he did when I spoke to him a couple of years ago, but it's a relatively small family business and finding the time, resources and finance is not always easy when you have the day to day business to run.
I did hear an unconfirmed story last week that the scrap traffic is currently roaded to Goulburn and added to the QUBE log train that runs from there a couple of times a week.
marvin
Assistant Commissioner
Location: Mars... "The Earth? Oh, the Earth will be gone in just a few seconds!"
I did hear an unconfirmed story last week that the scrap traffic is currently roaded to Goulburn and added to the QUBE log train that runs from there a couple of times a week.So a short haul shuttle from Canberra to Goulburn by rail would be possible.
Save on track fees and separate path from Goulburn to Botany(?) and return, save on driver and second person wages, save on engine and fuel costs... especially if there was no backhaul (Sydney to Canberra).
marvin
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