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  justapassenger Minister for Railways

The new Minister for Transport and Infrastructure is Corey Wingard, who has kept one of his two roles (Minister for Recreation, Sport and Racing) and dropped the other (Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services).

Vincent Tarzia has stepped down from the Speaker's chair to take on the Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services portfolio.

Elevated to the Cabinet for the first time are David Basham (Minister for Primary Industries and Regional Development) and Stephen Patterson  (Minister for Trade and Investment).

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  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Minor change in SA - DPTI has been replaced by DIT/DFIT, the Department for Infrastructure and Transport.

The website is dit.sa.gov.au (but contains lots of links to dpti.sa.gov.au), but the Facebook page is DFITSA. Looks like the changeover process has been hit hard by the absence of Planning.
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
Cantilever/registration arm assemblies have been attached via insulators to many of the masts between Dudley Park and Islington Works this weekend.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Cantilever/registration arm assemblies have been attached via insulators to many of the masts between Dudley Park and Islington Works this weekend.
62430
I've heard there are rumblings about splitting Stage 1 into a Stage 1a (Adelaide to Dry Creek) which could be commissioned and in October, with Stage 1b (Dry Creek to Salisbury) unlikely to see an EMU running under the wires until at least January 2021.
  Halo Chief Train Controller

We still don't have a substation yet do we?

Not much use for stopping the sparks at dry Creek unless the depot is done too, that would be a major job wouldn't it.

Passenger services would gain nothing unless you tell everyone to change to a diesel at dry Creek!
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Cantilever/registration arm assemblies have been attached via insulators to many of the masts between Dudley Park and Islington Works this weekend.
I've heard there are rumblings about splitting Stage 1 into a Stage 1a (Adelaide to Dry Creek) which could be commissioned and in October, with Stage 1b (Dry Creek to Salisbury) unlikely to see an EMU running under the wires until at least January 2021.
justapassenger
It would seem like Salisbury would be more likely as an interim stop but knowing the Marshall government nothing would surprise me.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Salisbury is the planned limit of Stage 1, the change coming is that it will be split into Stage 1a (Adelaide to Dry Creek, including the depot) and Stage 1b (north of Dry Creek to Salisbury). Stage 1a could be run from the Lonsdale substation.

Stage 1a would probably only allow for depot transfers only, as I don’t think DIT have the imagination to use EMUs on an all-stops Dry Creek service with DEMUs running express. It would be worth considering.

I reckon it will be Premier Malinauskas who gets to cut the ribbon on the first electric train to Gawler.
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
Salisbury is the planned limit of Stage 1, the change coming is that it will be split into Stage 1a (Adelaide to Dry Creek, including the depot) and Stage 1b (north of Dry Creek to Salisbury). Stage 1a could be run from the Lonsdale substation.

Stage 1a would probably only allow for depot transfers only, as I don’t think DIT have the imagination to use EMUs on an all-stops Dry Creek service with DEMUs running express. It would be worth considering.

I reckon it will be Premier Malinauskas who gets to cut the ribbon on the first electric train to Gawler.
justapassenger
What is the delivery schedule of the 12 new A-City trains?

If we assume 1 delivered per month then for the trains to be delivered by late 2021 then the first needs to arrive in the next couple of months.
  Cato56 Station Master

Salisbury is the planned limit of Stage 1, the change coming is that it will be split into Stage 1a (Adelaide to Dry Creek, including the depot) and Stage 1b (north of Dry Creek to Salisbury). Stage 1a could be run from the Lonsdale substation.

Stage 1a would probably only allow for depot transfers only, as I don’t think DIT have the imagination to use EMUs on an all-stops Dry Creek service with DEMUs running express. It would be worth considering.

I reckon it will be Premier Malinauskas who gets to cut the ribbon on the first electric train to Gawler.
justapassenger

This is so far removed from the truth its almost laughable.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Salisbury is the planned limit of Stage 1, the change coming is that it will be split into Stage 1a (Adelaide to Dry Creek, including the depot) and Stage 1b (north of Dry Creek to Salisbury). Stage 1a could be run from the Lonsdale substation.

Stage 1a would probably only allow for depot transfers only, as I don’t think DIT have the imagination to use EMUs on an all-stops Dry Creek service with DEMUs running express. It would be worth considering.

I reckon it will be Premier Malinauskas who gets to cut the ribbon on the first electric train to Gawler.
justapassenger
God help us, it was the Labor Party that left South Australia with the highest electricity prices in the nation and the highest unemployment the last time they were in office. Steve Marshall desperately needs to buy a clue and start acting like a real leader or he'll be a one-termer.
  northeast19 Beginner

The Lib government's both State ad Fed are on borrowed time and they know it. Marshall might have been a good leader during the pandemic same with Morrison but people are sick of them, Morrison caused the worst bushfires in our nations history with cutting budgets and Marshall government has done that many backflips the Olympics is where they are headed.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
The Lib government's both State ad Fed are on borrowed time and they know it. Marshall might have been a good leader during the pandemic same with Morrison but people are sick of them, Morrison caused the worst bushfires in our nations history with cutting budgets and Marshall government has done that many backflips the Olympics is where they are headed.
northeast19
Not the worst bushfires in history - not by a long shot. And how exactly did Morrison 'cause' them?
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
The Lib government's both State ad Fed are on borrowed time and they know it. Marshall might have been a good leader during the pandemic same with Morrison but people are sick of them, Morrison caused the worst bushfires in our nations history with cutting budgets and Marshall government has done that many backflips the Olympics is where they are headed.
Not the worst bushfires in history - not by a long shot. And how exactly did Morrison 'cause' them?
don_dunstan
When you are in Kingscote, Kangaroo Island, and the whole island not already under an emergency warning is under a "watch and act" as I was, you might disagree with your assertion about the fires.   That emergency warning was over a third of the island.The island has never in European history seen fires this severe.
It was very scary being there, and very eerie in town in the days following with outside fire fighting units, including the MFS, and the Defence Force very much in evidence.
I would also suggest that the Commonwealth's reducing fire fighting funds, and not responding to calls for better resourcing, was a contributing factor in the severity of the fires.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
The Lib government's both State ad Fed are on borrowed time and they know it. Marshall might have been a good leader during the pandemic same with Morrison but people are sick of them, Morrison caused the worst bushfires in our nations history with cutting budgets and Marshall government has done that many backflips the Olympics is where they are headed.
Not the worst bushfires in history - not by a long shot. And how exactly did Morrison 'cause' them?
When you are in Kingscote, Kangaroo Island, and the whole island not already under an emergency warning is under a "watch and act" as I was, you might disagree with your assertion about the fires.   That emergency warning was over a third of the island.The island has never in European history seen fires this severe.
It was very scary being there, and very eerie in town in the days following with outside fire fighting units, including the MFS, and the Defence Force very much in evidence.
I would also suggest that the Commonwealth's reducing fire fighting funds, and not responding to calls for better resourcing, was a contributing factor in the severity of the fires.
kipioneer
This continent burns, Kipioneer, as it always has throughout recorded history and even before the arrival of Europeans. The very largest recorded bushfire in Aussie history was in the 1850's and burnt much of the eastern seaboard but back then they didn't have the capacity to even try fighting those fires so it just did what its always done.

One of my best mates lives on K.I. and he says that most of the island that burnt was the national park and it simply wasn't set up to be defended from the fire - so it burnt. My mate's house is cleared to a distance of around 100m all around his house so it was perfectly safe from the fires but all the same he went to Kingscote to wait it out. The settled areas of K.I. were largely safe from the fires because they were able to be defended from it. The people who got burnt out were largely just unlucky. As for the national park, there was nothing anyone could do about it, it just burnt as it would have before European settlement.

You'll need some specific evidence of how Morrison contributed to the fires, a general statement like "I would also suggest..." doesn't do it for me.
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
The Lib government's both State ad Fed are on borrowed time and they know it. Marshall might have been a good leader during the pandemic same with Morrison but people are sick of them, Morrison caused the worst bushfires in our nations history with cutting budgets and Marshall government has done that many backflips the Olympics is where they are headed.
Not the worst bushfires in history - not by a long shot. And how exactly did Morrison 'cause' them?
When you are in Kingscote, Kangaroo Island, and the whole island not already under an emergency warning is under a "watch and act" as I was, you might disagree with your assertion about the fires.   That emergency warning was over a third of the island.The island has never in European history seen fires this severe.
It was very scary being there, and very eerie in town in the days following with outside fire fighting units, including the MFS, and the Defence Force very much in evidence.
I would also suggest that the Commonwealth's reducing fire fighting funds, and not responding to calls for better resourcing, was a contributing factor in the severity of the fires.
This continent burns, Kipioneer, as it always has throughout recorded history and even before the arrival of Europeans. The very largest recorded bushfire in Aussie history was in the 1850's and burnt much of the eastern seaboard but back then they didn't have the capacity to even try fighting those fires so it just did what its always done.

One of my best mates lives on K.I. and he says that most of the island that burnt was the national park and it simply wasn't set up to be defended from the fire - so it burnt. My mate's house is cleared to a distance of around 100m all around his house so it was perfectly safe from the fires but all the same he went to Kingscote to wait it out. The settled areas of K.I. were largely safe from the fires because they were able to be defended from it. The people who got burnt out were largely just unlucky. As for the national park, there was nothing anyone could do about it, it just burnt as it would have before European settlement.

You'll need some specific evidence of how Morrison contributed to the fires, a general statement like "I would also suggest..." doesn't do it for me.
don_dunstan

Of course there have always been fires, and some quite catastrophic fires including in 2007 when Flinders Chase burnt.

The only bit that didn't was an area south of Rocky River that had been burnt out by a "controlled" burn in September that year that got away.   Those that call for more controlled burns should consider that.

The January 2020 fires ripped along the south coast through public and private land to just before the Seal Bay turnoff, destroying a couple of tourist lodges and destroyed a lot of property along the north coast not in reserves.

It burnt so hot that any seeds in the ground were destroyed leaving just sand.

For some days all roads west and south of the Playford Highway as far as Kingscote Airport were closed to all but emergency service vehicles.

The flare-ups in the second week were largely on private land and largely stubble fires with the more heavily vegetated roadsides helping the fire along.

That fire conditions were changing was evident when the 2005 Wanilla fire on Eyre Peninsula destroyed much of southern Eyre Peninsula;  it was largely a stubble fire but it burnt very hot and several people were killed by it.

Of course the Prime Minister did not start the fires, nor inflame them, but his government had not listened to fire experts warning of worsening conditions and failed to provide funding for badly needed resources.   This is recognised by the NSW Royal Commission.

The government tried to sheet blame for the fires on "arsonists" even in the face of the NSW fire authorities stating that this was not so and it certainly wasn't so on KI where the fires were started by lightning.

As a result the government's popularity fell considerably and was not restored until the COVID-19 emergency when the Prime Minister did the right thing and listened to expert advice not opinion.
  gunzel42 Locomotive Driver

The Lib government's both State ad Fed are on borrowed time and they know it. Marshall might have been a good leader during the pandemic same with Morrison but people are sick of them, Morrison caused the worst bushfires in our nations history with cutting budgets and Marshall government has done that many backflips the Olympics is where they are headed.
Not the worst bushfires in history - not by a long shot. And how exactly did Morrison 'cause' them?
When you are in Kingscote, Kangaroo Island, and the whole island not already under an emergency warning is under a "watch and act" as I was, you might disagree with your assertion about the fires.   That emergency warning was over a third of the island.The island has never in European history seen fires this severe.
It was very scary being there, and very eerie in town in the days following with outside fire fighting units, including the MFS, and the Defence Force very much in evidence.
I would also suggest that the Commonwealth's reducing fire fighting funds, and not responding to calls for better resourcing, was a contributing factor in the severity of the fires.
This continent burns, Kipioneer, as it always has throughout recorded history and even before the arrival of Europeans. The very largest recorded bushfire in Aussie history was in the 1850's and burnt much of the eastern seaboard but back then they didn't have the capacity to even try fighting those fires so it just did what its always done.

One of my best mates lives on K.I. and he says that most of the island that burnt was the national park and it simply wasn't set up to be defended from the fire - so it burnt. My mate's house is cleared to a distance of around 100m all around his house so it was perfectly safe from the fires but all the same he went to Kingscote to wait it out. The settled areas of K.I. were largely safe from the fires because they were able to be defended from it. The people who got burnt out were largely just unlucky. As for the national park, there was nothing anyone could do about it, it just burnt as it would have before European settlement.

You'll need some specific evidence of how Morrison contributed to the fires, a general statement like "I would also suggest..." doesn't do it for me.

Of course there have always been fires, and some quite catastrophic fires including in 2007 when Flinders Chase burnt.

The only bit that didn't was an area south of Rocky River that had been burnt out by a "controlled" burn in September that year that got away.   Those that call for more controlled burns should consider that.

The January 2020 fires ripped along the south coast through public and private land to just before the Seal Bay turnoff, destroying a couple of tourist lodges and destroyed a lot of property along the north coast not in reserves.

It burnt so hot that any seeds in the ground were destroyed leaving just sand.

For some days all roads west and south of the Playford Highway as far as Kingscote Airport were closed to all but emergency service vehicles.

The flare-ups in the second week were largely on private land and largely stubble fires with the more heavily vegetated roadsides helping the fire along.

That fire conditions were changing was evident when the 2005 Wanilla fire on Eyre Peninsula destroyed much of southern Eyre Peninsula;  it was largely a stubble fire but it burnt very hot and several people were killed by it.

Of course the Prime Minister did not start the fires, nor inflame them, but his government had not listened to fire experts warning of worsening conditions and failed to provide funding for badly needed resources.   This is recognised by the NSW Royal Commission.

The government tried to sheet blame for the fires on "arsonists" even in the face of the NSW fire authorities stating that this was not so and it certainly wasn't so on KI where the fires were started by lightning.

As a result the government's popularity fell considerably and was not restored until the COVID-19 emergency when the Prime Minister did the right thing and listened to expert advice not opinion.
kipioneer
The response to 'book us out' was only overshadowed by the 'stay away'.  KI did its own harm to itself, and it will be a long time before many forgive the selfish behaviours.
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
The response to 'book us out' was only overshadowed by the 'stay away'. KI did its own harm to itself, and it will be a long time before many forgive the selfish behaviours.
Gunzel42
I would have to agree with you there.
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
Meanwhile on the trams, pay wave ticketing using credit cards is now being trialled, for the adult full fare.
  rwatts Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide SA
Meanwhile on the trams, pay wave ticketing using credit cards is now being trialled, for the adult full fare.
Gayspie
And meanwhile I still have a heap of peak and interpeak single trip tickets I swapped for unused multitrips just before they were phased out in early 2014.  Most of those multitrips were so old they cost less than $10 (Non-concession at that).  I figured public transport would never likely go down in price so I had bought up at some point.  Now I have a Seniors Card to use.

Richard.
  northeast19 Beginner

The Lib government's both State ad Fed are on borrowed time and they know it. Marshall might have been a good leader during the pandemic same with Morrison but people are sick of them, Morrison caused the worst bushfires in our nations history with cutting budgets and Marshall government has done that many backflips the Olympics is where they are headed.
Not the worst bushfires in history - not by a long shot. And how exactly did Morrison 'cause' them?
When you are in Kingscote, Kangaroo Island, and the whole island not already under an emergency warning is under a "watch and act" as I was, you might disagree with your assertion about the fires.   That emergency warning was over a third of the island.The island has never in European history seen fires this severe.
It was very scary being there, and very eerie in town in the days following with outside fire fighting units, including the MFS, and the Defence Force very much in evidence.
I would also suggest that the Commonwealth's reducing fire fighting funds, and not responding to calls for better resourcing, was a contributing factor in the severity of the fires.
kipioneer
Thanks for proving my point, The libs (Morrison) cut funding for bushfire response. he cut funding on back burning, something that was amped up after the fires to prevent more. It was an absolute smeg show last summer and Morrison and his government are to blame. Doubling Jobseeker and creating Jobkeeper won't save his smeg.
  cmjl Station Master

Location: Adelaide
"God help us, it was the Labor Party that left South Australia with the highest electricity prices in the nation and the highest unemployment the last time they were in office."

Hmmm.  I seem to recall that the price of power went up 60% in January 2002 as a result of privatisation put in place by (drum roll please) the liberal government under Dean Brown and then John Olsen who sold ETSA to an overseas power operator for 199 years.

It's part of the reason that the libs lost the march election that year (think it was that year) and were out of any real power for 17 years.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
"God help us, it was the Labor Party that left South Australia with the highest electricity prices in the nation and the highest unemployment the last time they were in office."

Hmmm.  I seem to recall that the price of power went up 60% in January 2002 as a result of privatisation put in place by (drum roll please) the liberal government under Dean Brown and then John Olsen who sold ETSA to an overseas power operator for 199 years.

It's part of the reason that the libs lost the march election that year (think it was that year) and were out of any real power for 17 years.
cmjl
That's true but it was Rann & Co. who made the situation even worse by introducing ridiculously high feed-in tariffs for home solar systems forcing captive grid users to pay for electricity at times that the grid simply didn't need it. Labor had 17 years to fix the situation (as you say) and instead they blew up Playford power station removing redundancy from the grid and forcing us to rely on the interconnector from Victoria that failed in 2016.

I've been pestering Steve Marshall for a plan of action on Twitter for jobs and industry in this state but all he comes up with are single use straws being banned and vague promises about 'space jobs'. We have the highest electricity prices in the country and the highest unemployment - instead of declaring a crisis none of them (the opposition included) seem to even care.
  northeast19 Beginner

"God help us, it was the Labor Party that left South Australia with the highest electricity prices in the nation and the highest unemployment the last time they were in office."

Hmmm.  I seem to recall that the price of power went up 60% in January 2002 as a result of privatisation put in place by (drum roll please) the liberal government under Dean Brown and then John Olsen who sold ETSA to an overseas power operator for 199 years.

It's part of the reason that the libs lost the march election that year (think it was that year) and were out of any real power for 17 years.
That's true but it was Rann & Co. who made the situation even worse by introducing ridiculously high feed-in tariffs for home solar systems forcing captive grid users to pay for electricity at times that the grid simply didn't need it. Labor had 17 years to fix the situation (as you say) and instead they blew up Playford power station removing redundancy from the grid and forcing us to rely on the interconnector from Victoria that failed in 2016.

I've been pestering Steve Marshall for a plan of action on Twitter for jobs and industry in this state but all he comes up with are single use straws being banned and vague promises about 'space jobs'. We have the highest electricity prices in the country and the highest unemployment - instead of declaring a crisis none of them (the opposition included) seem to even care.
don_dunstan
The Rann government also gave us
A new Hospital (all be it a pretty smeg one that was over budget)
The Adelaide 500
A new Airport Terminal
the Port River Expressway and South Road Upgrades
Electric Trains (all be it on 1 line)
New modern trams and a tram line extension to the Entertainment centre (which is the slowest mode of transport between the Ent and the City)

under Labor we had local jobs created and money coming in. under liberal, we have sell everything we can to have money.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
"God help us, it was the Labor Party that left South Australia with the highest electricity prices in the nation and the highest unemployment the last time they were in office."

Hmmm.  I seem to recall that the price of power went up 60% in January 2002 as a result of privatisation put in place by (drum roll please) the liberal government under Dean Brown and then John Olsen who sold ETSA to an overseas power operator for 199 years.

It's part of the reason that the libs lost the march election that year (think it was that year) and were out of any real power for 17 years.
That's true but it was Rann & Co. who made the situation even worse by introducing ridiculously high feed-in tariffs for home solar systems forcing captive grid users to pay for electricity at times that the grid simply didn't need it. Labor had 17 years to fix the situation (as you say) and instead they blew up Playford power station removing redundancy from the grid and forcing us to rely on the interconnector from Victoria that failed in 2016.

I've been pestering Steve Marshall for a plan of action on Twitter for jobs and industry in this state but all he comes up with are single use straws being banned and vague promises about 'space jobs'. We have the highest electricity prices in the country and the highest unemployment - instead of declaring a crisis none of them (the opposition included) seem to even care.
The Rann government also gave us
A new Hospital (all be it a pretty smeg one that was over budget)
The Adelaide 500
A new Airport Terminal
the Port River Expressway and South Road Upgrades
Electric Trains (all be it on 1 line)
New modern trams and a tram line extension to the Entertainment centre (which is the slowest mode of transport between the Ent and the City)

under Labor we had local jobs created and money coming in. under liberal, we have sell everything we can to have money.
northeast19
The new airport terminal was entirely funded by the private entity that owns the airport (Adelaide Airport Limited) which in turn is backed by super funds and rich listers like Stan Perron. The Rann and Weatherill governments had nothing to do with it.

You forgot to add to the list the new Adelaide Oval - although they sold the state forests in the South East to a Chinese government entity to fund that. The tram extension was much needed but its a bit of a joke really - they should have sent it to O'Connell Street but they wanted to bolster the use of the Entertainment Centre and help out the developer that bought the old Clipsal site - so as usual politics wins out over common sense.

Weatherill left us around $20,000,000,000 in debt whereas we were pretty much debt free when that incompetent John Olsen handed over albeit without ETSA. Rann and Weatherill sold things that probably should have remained in public hands like the Motor Registry, The Land Titles Offices, State Forests, the reservoirs (to private operators), the list goes on. We were also left extremely vulnerable to blackouts - so much so that they had to spend $100 million on 'backup' diesel generators, what a joke.

Again - we have the highest unemployment in Australia - higher even that the traditional basket case Tasmania. We also have the highest retail electricity prices in the nation. They were both the legacy of seventeen years of Labor government and what does Steve Marshall do? Announces a ban on single-use plastics.

No wonder kids are still leaving South Australia in droves.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

The Rann government also gave us
A new Hospital (all be it a pretty smeg one that was over budget)
The Adelaide 500
A new Airport Terminal
the Port River Expressway and South Road Upgrades
Electric Trains (all be it on 1 line)
New modern trams and a tram line extension to the Entertainment centre (which is the slowest mode of transport between the Ent and the City)

under Labor we had local jobs created and money coming in. under liberal, we have sell everything we can to have money.
northeast19
The Adelaide 500 and the other GP replacement events (Tour Down Under, 3 Day International equestrian, Classic Adelaide rally) were all instigated by the Olsen government.

The TDU is the only one of the four which attained 'coveted by Victoria' status, and also the only one that saw a net improvement over the course of the Rann-Weatherill government while the others stagnated.

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