Wagga to Albury commuter train proposed

 
Topic moved from News by dthead on 10 Aug 2017 09:43
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Thanks for picking up my comments James.au. that is exactly how I intended them.

FWIW, anyone who wants to take the Newell south or even north is better off crossing over to the Olympic Highway. Best kept secret, virtually no trucks, few cars and a pleasant drive.

But if ever there is a rail service, that's even better.
ANR
I think it would be interesting if we could somehow find out how many cars are driving from the Central West to points south (esp Melbourne and surrounding areas like Ballarat, Gippsland etc).

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Thanks for picking up my comments James.au. that is exactly how I intended them.

FWIW, anyone who wants to take the Newell south or even north is better off crossing over to the Olympic Highway. Best kept secret, virtually no trucks, few cars and a pleasant drive.

But if ever there is a rail service, that's even better.
ANR

OR...my favourite when driving the MINI to Queensland from Victoria...the dream run Kidman Way... Hay to Hillston, Cobar, Bourke and points north.

Mike.
  cityrail-rulez Chief Train Controller

No such service will happen as a payback for the key regional electorates booting the Nats out last state election.
Doesn't matter who is voted in, it will never happen full stop! The government would have to spend billions of dollars just for it to happen and to them "no matter which party" it's a waste of time, they rather spend more money in "N=Newcastle, S=Sydney, W=Wollongong" that's it
The govt to its credit ran a bus as a trial, it was a colossal failure, unless we can demonstrate the bus trial was planned to fail from the onset, then it simply doesn't stack up.

However I agree that the service between the two cities and with access to Mel can be improved by extending one of the V/line trains to Wagga.
Oh yeah! I remember that bus service that never existed, I did sign a petition for Countrylink at the time as well as many other locals did. But nothing happened at all
https://www.dailyadvertiser.com.au/story/5629191/demand-remains-low-for-wagga-to-albury-wodonga-bus-service-trials/
RTT_Rules
I didn't see that article, thanks for that link Smile
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

NSW is not going to fund a rail service down that way, can you imagine the cost of having staff (unless Wagga or Albury is used for XPT crewing), plus servicing back in Sydney, Repairs.....

The best option to pay V/line to run a through service from Melbourne to complement the XPT/XPT replacement timetable, it won't be commuter, but thats a failure anyway.
What is there to fund when there will be viable spare rolling stock by 2024. Don't waste time with vline and if the locals want it use the spare rolling stock.
I understand your point but the whole logistics is far more complicated.

If its XPL, it will be doing assume 1 trip each way AM and PM, poor rolling stock uterlisation, where does staff come from, how to get to Sydney for servicing........ Just think of the overheads to run it. Certainly the fares are unlikely to pay for the cleaning bill.  We haven't even discussed which way the train should run A->W or W->A, surely no one is proposing both each way?

Or

Extend an existing train service another 130km or whatever it is and do the exact same thing now, park the train, send the crew to bed.

The whole commuter option is a pointless exercise, won't work there just like everywhere else, so end of story on that. The opportunity is to improve access to Albury to Melbourne. The one and only WW'ite I've ever know personally said his family at least would go to Melbourne before Sydney because back then at least it was easier and faster.
RTT_Rules

If you put an xplorer on trial service then you will be doing more then 1 trip each way in peak and these trains will not be needed in Sydney and so will not need to come back to Sydney for service. Let one of the heavy maintenance facilities in the area do the work providing continued work for the region.

If push comes to shove these trains could be sent to Bombardier in Victoria for heavy maintenance if need be. There will be enough spare endeavours / xplorers to also provide a daily services to Griffith and back from junee.

200 or so kilometres is perfect for the Endeavours and Xplorers. That distance is their bread and butter just as it is for vlocities.

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