SA Election 2018 transport promises -

 
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
The Sadvertiser is reporting that there's at least three independents likely to get up at the election but Mr X. may not win a single seat.
don_dunstan
If Jackie Lambie's experience in Tasmania (and also Clive Palmer's experiment) is anything to go by, a party lead by a name only (and not a known ideology) may not be the best way to win lower house seats.

Is SA-Best able to win seats in the upper house?

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  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

If Jackie Lambie's experience in Tasmania (and also Clive Palmer's experiment) is anything to go by, a party lead by a name only (and not a known ideology) may not be the best way to win lower house seats.
james.au
At the last Federal election, NXT won a lower house seat (Mayo) and placed second in three others.

The dislike for Jay Weatherill and the near anonymity of Steven Marshall gives SA Best a genuine chance of getting a couple, and means we have a genuinely unpredictable election.

Davenport is one that could go to SA Best. The Liberals are running a party hack against a popular local councillor, while the ALP has registered a candidate but done nothing much more than that.

Is SA-Best able to win seats in the upper house?
james.au
That is certain, the only question is how many?

For the Legislative Council, the whole state is one district with 11 Members elected by Proportional Representation at each election to serve a double term.

My prediction for the LC result is Liberal 4, ALP 3, SA Best 3, Greens 1.

These would then be added to the MLCs who are on a 2014-2022 term to make a total of Liberal 8, ALP 7, SA Best 3, Greens 2, Conservatives 1, Advance SA 1 (former NXT member John Darley).
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
If Jackie Lambie's experience in Tasmania (and also Clive Palmer's experiment) is anything to go by, a party lead by a name only (and not a known ideology) may not be the best way to win lower house seats.
At the last Federal election, NXT won a lower house seat (Mayo) and placed second in three others.

The dislike for Jay Weatherill and the near anonymity of Steven Marshall gives SA Best a genuine chance of getting a couple, and means we have a genuinely unpredictable election.

Davenport is one that could go to SA Best. The Liberals are running a party hack against a popular local councillor, while the ALP has registered a candidate but done nothing much more than that.

Is SA-Best able to win seats in the upper house?
That is certain, the only question is how many?

For the Legislative Council, the whole state is one district with 11 Members elected by Proportional Representation at each election to serve a double term.

My prediction for the LC result is Liberal 4, ALP 3, SA Best 3, Greens 1.

These would then be added to the MLCs who are on a 2014-2022 term to make a total of Liberal 8, ALP 7, SA Best 3, Greens 2, Conservatives 1, Advance SA 1 (former NXT member John Darley).
justapassenger
The ALP might as well not be running in Davenport since there is not one corflute to be seen, at least in Flagstaff Hill and Aberfoyle Park.

In Mawson, on the other hand, the ALP member on Kangaroo Island must be really keen since there are Leon Bignell corflutes up all over the island.

In the upper house I would like to see Kelly Vincent reelected since she is probably the only member that really needs to be there, and the government not controlling the house.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I agree about Kelly Vincent, but unfortunately I think she'll have an uphill battle this time without the party having Dr Paul Collier.

The non-contest from the ALP in Davenport is really quite odd, since it is really an adjusted version of the current District of Fisher - the first case ever of a major party not bothering to defend a seat they hold?

I did see a couple of Jay Weatherill posters in Aberfoyle Park when I was down there last week, but none for the local candidate.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Did anyone see the Liberal promise to put a right-hand turn at the North Terrace/King William intersection? Can't help but wonder why this is supposed to be a big deal, there was no need to put a grand junction in if the trams are only running in specific directions... anyway.

Haven't seen anything from Steve Marshall about public transport otherwise - has anyone else?

Incidentally I have already voted; wasn't sure if I would be in SA on the 17th so I decided to vote while I was driving past a pre-poll station the other day.
  SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
Is Steve Marshall still alive?

The Liberal side of state politics is in total disarray. They seem to spend so much time arguing among themselves that they don’t have energy to fight an election.
  allan Chief Commissioner

Holler for a Marshall and all that you get is an echo.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Just like that, we mention him and he appears (like a demon!).

They announced a new policy today - new tram lines - but I can't link it because it's on the pay-for-view (they also don't have a map on the SA Liberal website) - but the idea is for the new terminus at the old RAH extended down East Terrace/Hutt Street (it appears) and then down Angas Street to Gouger Street to terminate near West Terrace. There's also an extension up O'Connell Street to the intersection of Main North/Prospect/Barton Terrace and I believe the idea is for Glenelg Trams to terminate there and the Entertainment Centre trams to run down North Terrace all the way to the 'city loop' terminus.

Thoughts?
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

It's catch-up policy.

I like the ALP version of the city loop better, it gives more logical jumping off points for routes leading outside the CBD and will do a better job of activating the stagnant southern half of the CBD.

I also think that it's not going to happen even if the Libs do get in, Marshall has already nailed his colours to the mast by ruling out any extension east of the new East End tram terminus.

The person with the greatest need to see Marshall get in is Rob Kerin, who will be desperate to hand over his title as the weakest premier in living memory.
  allan Chief Commissioner

I've no memory of Rob Kerin at all (and I think that I'm still living) - I went to Google to find him. Your assessment was very correct!
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Is Steve Marshall still alive?

The Liberal side of state politics is in total disarray. They seem to spend so much time arguing among themselves that they don’t have energy to fight an election.
SinickleBird
100% right.

I reckon there are certain key Liberal Party figures on the national stage who know exactly what is needed to pull the SA division together (bring in a leader with real star power to crush the Evans and Chapman factions, e.g. Downer or Pyne) but are holding off because their vote in Federal elections is boosted by the general disdain for the mediocre ALP state government.

The general public doesn't like the Weatherill government, but they don't see the Liberals as a viable alternative.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I've no memory of Rob Kerin at all (and I think that I'm still living) - I went to Google to find him. Your assessment was very correct!
allan
To be fair to him, he was on the end of an absolute hospital pass and did do a reasonable job to get through such a horror campaign and still deny Labor a majority in their own right.

But that doesn't change the fact he was a complete non-entity as Premier, and that his courageous sacrifice for the good of the party only caused them to delay the inevitable cleaning out which had to happen at some point.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
John Olsen was worse - did that deal with the upper house defectors to sell ETSA and now we have nothing to show for it except the highest power prices in the country.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
It's catch-up policy.

I like the ALP version of the city loop better, it gives more logical jumping off points for routes leading outside the CBD and will do a better job of activating the stagnant southern half of the CBD.

I also think that it's not going to happen even if the Libs do get in, Marshall has already nailed his colours to the mast by ruling out any extension east of the new East End tram terminus.
justapassenger
The Liberals have vehemently opposed upgrades and extensions of the tram since the first extension opened in 2007 and Martin Hamilton-Smith stupidly went for a ride on a very crowded tram in the opening week to tell the media it would be a white elephant... Last election Steve Marshall went in saying that there would be no public transport projects at all (obviously not a vote winner) and this time he's suspiciously come over all tram-friendly. Seems pretty insincere; you have to wonder if they will cry "no money" once they're elected.
  409 Minister for Railways

Election 2018: Liberal Party reveals broad transport plan for Adelaide
Daniel Wills, State Political Editor, The Advertiser
23 minutes ago



TRAMS looping around the CBD and a spur line heading north past the Adelaide Oval would be investigated by a new authority in charge of public transport under a Liberal plan.

Opposition Leader Steven Marshall promised $37 million to fix the North Tce “tram joke” and allow carriages to turn right from King William St to the East End.

The Advertiser also can reveal the Liberals’ broader transport plan includes a new SA Public Transport Authority to investigate “major reform” to ticket pricing and routes.

The policy does not commit the Liberals to building new tram lines, but says options, including a North Adelaide spur and city loops would be considered by an independent expert body to see if they stack up.

Mr Marshall said he would also consider trials of “high capacity electric buses” to prove they were better and cheaper than building fixed tram tracks that disrupted on-street parking, traffic and businesses.

The Liberals also would review fares, with an aim to increase public transport use and simplify the system.

Options include day passes so trips over a set number become free on weekdays, Saturday discounts and capped fares on Sundays and public holidays.

The Liberals also would consider discounted semester passes for university and TAFE students, and card or mobile payments.

Mr Marshall said the Liberals would also clarify the frequency of services with new Go Zones that have 15 minute or half-hour departures.

Labor has pledged half a billion dollars in tram extensions with lines to Prospect and Norwood, in the heart of Mr Marshall’s own electorate.

The Liberals have categorically ruled out the Norwood tram as well as mooted lines to Unley and the Adelaide Airport via Henley Beach Rd.

Their policy leaves the door open to further O-Bahn upgrades despite controversy over Labor’s $160 million parklands tunnel extension. The Liberals would consider taking the existing service beyond Tea Tree Plaza to the Golden Grove Shopping Centre.

The new SA Public Transport Authority would be required to make annual reports to the government about public satisfaction with services and ideas for change.

Mr Marshall said the existing public transport network was “not meeting customer expectations or needs”. “Less use of public transport means more congestion on our roads and higher costs for households using cars rather than the bus, tram or train,” he said.

“We have a bus network that is ... too infrequent to attract new customers.”

Premier Jay Weatherill dismissed the Liberal right-turn pledge, which Labor says will worsen traffic for cars and pedestrians as well are require the North Tce and Rundle St intersection to be dug up again for another month of work.

“It doesn’t take you any further than our vision,” Mr Weaherill said. “Steven Marshall doesn’t know where he’s headed in relation to trams.

“He is utterly confused.”

Mr Weatherill last month promised to save some commuters more than $300 a year with cut 28-day pass fares that apply from April 3. That will be matched by the Liberals.
  409 Minister for Railways

To me anyway, it all sounds very non committal and the cynic in me thinks that creating the new board for Public Transport will make it easier to potentially privatise operations.

Given that the Multi Criteria Analysis’s for the entire AdeLINK network are already available, further studies surely wouldn’t be warranted. The route down Gouger and Angas Street was actually rejected by the CityLINK MCA!

http://infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/290992/AdeLINK_MCA_Summary_V4_with_CityLINK_FINAL_lowres.pdf

http://infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/290991/CityLINK_MCA_Detail_Report_FINAL_V2_25012017_lowres.pdf
  SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
Pure genius - "we'll bring back the 1970s" - that's a vote winner!

We used to have a single authority covering public transport (granted a little later than the 1970s) - the STA.
We used to have discounted passes for students.

And the idea of a government instrumentality publishing annual reports is so innovative, I can't understand why no-one has thought of it before.
  Cato56 Station Master

To me anyway, it all sounds very non committal and the cynic in me thinks that creating the new board for Public Transport will make it easier to potentially privatise operations.

Given that the Multi Criteria Analysis’s for the entire AdeLINK network are already available, further studies surely wouldn’t be warranted. The route down Gouger and Angas Street was actually rejected by the CityLINK MCA!

http://infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/290992/AdeLINK_MCA_Summary_V4_with_CityLINK_FINAL_lowres.pdf

http://infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/290991/CityLINK_MCA_Detail_Report_FINAL_V2_25012017_lowres.pdf
409

Would not put it past the Liberals to deliberately pick options that don't stack up, to then get an "independent expert" to come in and say (surprise surprise) "they don't stack up" so they can then bail on their commitment.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

That would be why they have quietly clarified that they are committing to a planning study for their GlobeLink transport thought bubble, not to building it.
  Brucetiki Station Staff

John Olsen was worse - did that deal with the upper house defectors to sell ETSA and now we have nothing to show for it except the highest power prices in the country.
don_dunstan

Not to mention the disaster he's been at the SANFL
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Steve Marshall and Cory Winguard today announcing that they would completely deregulate shopping hours in SA if they win - in fact in the first hundred days. Having lived interstate where they already have this I'd say its not really a vote winner here - I got used to early closing on the weekends as soon as I got back and the fact that most things are closed on a public holiday (like today) is something you work around. I for one don't miss the fact that Marion isn't open today... do people seriously have nothing better to do?

What do other people think -
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Steve Marshall and Cory Winguard today announcing that they would completely deregulate shopping hours in SA if they win - in fact in the first hundred days. Having lived interstate where they already have this I'd say its not really a vote winner here - I got used to early closing on the weekends as soon as I got back and the fact that most things are closed on a public holiday (like today) is something you work around. I for one don't miss the fact that Marion isn't open today... do people seriously have nothing better to do?

What do other people think -
don_dunstan
doesn't really matter were I live (semi rural Coastal  Victoria) as the overwhelming majority of shops still close around 5-7pm, restaurants can obviously be excluded. quite pointless unless Kmart is donating to a political party.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Steve Marshall and Cory Winguard today announcing that they would completely deregulate shopping hours in SA if they win - in fact in the first hundred days. Having lived interstate where they already have this I'd say its not really a vote winner here - I got used to early closing on the weekends as soon as I got back and the fact that most things are closed on a public holiday (like today) is something you work around. I for one don't miss the fact that Marion isn't open today... do people seriously have nothing better to do?

What do other people think -
don_dunstan
Completely deregulated hours to me is a crock of smeg, whilst convenient for a few shoppers, it pays little regard for the actual shop workers who will be expected to work longer hours.
Sure the backers will say that it will mean a jobs boast, but I don't see that happening.
In a nut shell consumers have "x" dollars to spend, longer shopping hours will NOT increase the average joe's shopping budget, so in effect it will cost the retailers more in wages, for little if any increase in turnover, so a net lowering of profits.

Personally if I need something late at night or on a long weekend, I just wander down to the local OTR (or similar 24/7 servo)who all have quite well stocked mini marts.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Corey Wingard's stobie pole coreflutes around the Oakland's crossing claim that he has 'fixed' the Oakland's level crossing.
Funny looked the same as usual as I crossed it numerous times this weekend. Rolling Eyes
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

The only non-government politician with any credible claim to have had any influence on the Oaklands Crossing project is Kris Hanna, in his role as the Mayor of the City of Marion.

Kris Hanna has been a good Mayor, and should be a strong candidate in the seat of Gibson against Windbag.

Steve Marshall and Cory Winguard today announcing that they would completely deregulate shopping hours in SA if they win - in fact in the first hundred days. Having lived interstate where they already have this I'd say its not really a vote winner here…
don_dunstan
I agree.

Funding the installation of MyPost Parcel Lockers in more locations would be a far better vote winner, people like to be able to receive online purchases without fear of having them thrown over the fence or stolen off their doorstep. Good luck getting that one from either the Liberals (in bed with the big retailers) or ALP (indirectly bed with the big retailers, via the SDA which is a classic example of a bosses' union).

Yes, I am aware that Australia Post is a Federal Government issue. No reason for that to be a problem, given the amount that the Federal Government mucks around with issues of only local importance when a marginal seat is up for grabs.

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