Mildura standard gauge sightings thread

 
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
The Libs killed 3801 too...

Don't blame Lindy & the Dingo... the Libs took Azaria...

The Libs shot JFK... and JR... and Elvis...

Great news that SG has reached Mildura after many years of talk. Shame that we can't enjoy the moment without party politics raining on the parade.


Richard
ivahri
Killed off any chance of passenger Trains returning as well.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Approaching Avoca.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
The Libs killed 3801 too...

Don't blame Lindy & the Dingo... the Libs took Azaria...

The Libs shot JFK... and JR... and Elvis...

Great news that SG has reached Mildura after many years of talk. Shame that we can't enjoy the moment without party politics raining on the parade.


Richard
ivahri
Your probably right and I stand corrected, should have left out the last sentence, the horse has bolted !

Anyhow as bevans said, back to topic.

BigShunter.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Approaching Elmhurst
  Bonzel Junior Train Controller

A video of the first sg fruitee ex Wakefields Merbein is seen climbing up grade out of Amphitheatre.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHOwksmZ-jM&feature=youtu.be
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Three locos were on the down but only 2 were on the return trip.

What happened to BL32?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Approaching Elmhurst
bevans

About to depart Ararat having run around with G540 now on the lead.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Approaching Elmhurst

About to depart Ararat having run around with G540 now on the lead.
bevans
Interesting that BL33 and G540 were on the quad header to Portland a couple of days ago, and the thought was one of the locos had died.

Rick
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Three locos were on the down but only 2 were on the return trip.

What happened to BL32?
x31
Still on Broad Gauge!

BL28 was taken off the down train at Birchip and returned with grain hoppers from there.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Does anybody have a, approximate figure for the weight, this consist, would be in total ?

Looks like Mike has got a heap of weight off his shoulders, over in the other thread Laughing

BigShunter.
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
7902V led by G540 & BL33 through Gheringhap at 16:30 E.D.T.
Jack
  MetroFemme Assistant Commissioner

Great news for the project.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
7902V led by G540 & BL33 through Gheringhap at 16:30 E.D.T.
Jack
Jack Le Lievre
I was on the 16.25 Up pass from Castlemaine to SC this evening, we ran parallel with the train for a couple of kms from Tottenham, we were slightly faster but it took a while to get by, I just caught sight of the locos with their 100 Years of Wakefield's plates as it dipped into the cutting headed for the Bunbury St Tunnel at around 17.50

BG
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The Wakefield company wanted a 10 hour journey time from Merbein to the port of Melbourne ! will they get anywhere near this ?
They called a 14 hour journey poor.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
The Wakefield company wanted a 10 hour journey time from Merbein to the port of Melbourne ! will they get anywhere near this ?
They called a 14 hour journey poor.
Nightfire

these lines should never have been standardised IMO, the main reason was to probably kill off Chances of passenger trains Returning to Mildura combined with no one investing in new BG rolling Stock. there is little chance of reverting back To BG Crying or Very sad
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
The Wakefield company wanted a 10 hour journey time from Merbein to the port of Melbourne ! will they get anywhere near this ?
They called a 14 hour journey poor.
Nightfire
Not on the first trip, it took 30+hrs on the Down trip and 28+hrs on the Up Trip.

Jack
  skitz Chief Commissioner

A video of the first sg fruitee ex Wakefields Merbein is seen climbing up grade out of Amphitheatre.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHOwksmZ-jM&feature=youtu.be
Bonzel
Listen to the dipped welds in that.  80lb rail on concrete will not last with surface quality like that.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
A video of the first sg fruitee ex Wakefields Merbein is seen climbing up grade out of Amphitheatre.
Listen to the dipped welds in that.  80lb rail on concrete will not last with surface quality like that.
skitz
Good observation, skitz, I heard the same in Greensleeves, clip and equired, but he said it was an axle counter, on the track just near his position, for recording.

So you reckon it's the welding, that is creating the clunck, clunck, sound. Do the welds need more grinding, although without being on site, it's hard to say.

Greensleeves, may be able to give some inside, info, seeing he's, been on location.

BigShunter.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Does anybody have a, approximate figure for the weight, this consist, would be in total ?

Looks like Mike has got a heap of weight off his shoulders, over in the other thread Laughing

BigShunter.
BigShunter

Yeah...look I don't want to hijack this thread...but I'm fed up with the BS that's been written by some about Governments 10 years ago being responsible for the NE.

ARTC were brought in to fix it...10 years later they clearly have not, hence their CEO being probed in Senate Estimates...

Back to the matters at hand in this thread.

Mike.
  Z VAN Locomotive Driver

As a rail fan and someone interested in standardizing the the Victorian Goods lines I congratulate all concerned for getting this project to running trains again.
As to what political party achieved more all I can say I am glad we are back to running trains.
As BG commented the funding was 50/50 split State and Commonwealth.
There were a few people posting on here "I will believe in this project coming to fruition when trains start running".
Well they are so let us be happy and wish the Operators success in the future that will encourage other lines to be converted.
PTE.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
There was an axle counter next to me at Amphitheatre, but I believe (and not being in the industry I could be wrong on this) that they use insulated joints to isolate one section from another so there would be a joint there somewhere. Still plenty of normal joints around though, I don't know if they eventually plan on going back with the thermit welder to do them all or now.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
The Wakefield company wanted a 10 hour journey time from Merbein to the port of Melbourne ! will they get anywhere near this ?
They called a 14 hour journey poor.
Nightfire
Yeah once the line is bedded down, and when there is a SG connection from Maryborough to Warrenheip the train speed will lift and total travel time to Melbourne will fall...
  skitz Chief Commissioner

A video of the first sg fruitee ex Wakefields Merbein is seen climbing up grade out of Amphitheatre.
Listen to the dipped welds in that.  80lb rail on concrete will not last with surface quality like that.
Good observation, skitz, I heard the same in Greensleeves, clip and equired, but he said it was an axle counter, on the track just near his position, for recording.

So you reckon it's the welding, that is creating the clunck, clunck, sound. Do the welds need more grinding, although without being on site, it's hard to say.

Greensleeves, may be able to give some inside, info, seeing he's, been on location.

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Impact points can be from bad welding or wheel burns.  Both are bad.

More grinding only helps peaked welds.  Dipped welds need to be bent up, then ground.

The root cause is bad welding practices.  There are a myriad of technical reasons, however most have the common aspects of systemic organisation issues that allow for bad quality.

Timber track hides the consequences of bad welding.  Concrete will show it quickly in the ballast degradation.  One aspect that is common to both timber and concrete is the fatigue rate (propagation of cracking due to stress created by the surface defect) of the rail is the same.

In time, as the traffic accumulates the rate of broken rails will grow and with it the risk of a pile up.   Fatigue will be what determines the life of the rail and the fatigue will most likely be at the weld due to poor welding.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Approaching Elmhurst

About to depart Ararat having run around with G540 now on the lead.
Interesting that BL33 and G540 were on the quad header to Portland a couple of days ago, and the thought was one of the locos had died.

Rick
RustyRick
Thinking about this, would that make BL33 and G540 the first locomotives to traverse the entire western north - south standard gauge network? Obviously not part of the same train...

Rick
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
No Mildura trains at the moment has the line been closed?

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