Colonial Tramcar Restaurant

 
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

The restaurant trams have disappeared from their storage roads at Southbank Depot. A W-class and a C-class were stored there. Didn't have time to get the numbers.

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  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
I recall the restaurant tram had a good meal but expensive. I do feel that taking away the old trams really takes away part of Melbourne's character.

I'm glad now that I went on the Restaurant Tram when I did.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

At Southbank today (Wed), there were, from the western end:
4 x City Circle (maroon) trams, one of which was W6 1000;
3 x Colonial Tramcar Restaurant trams; and
W8 983
stored in the northern road of the sidings west of the Montague Street bridge
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

The City Circle and Colonial Tramcar Restaurant trams have disappeared from Southbank Depot. W8 961 (new) and W8 981 were in the restaurant tram sidings. Based on VicSig information, there should be 7 x W8-class in service.
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

I believe  they have been moved to Preston.
  RedEyeExpress Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
Noted trainbrain, thank you - do you have a source you can disclose?
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Yesterday, a Tramcar Restaurant vehicle, and a similarly painted City Circle tram were sitting nose to tail at Preston. Can be sighted from Oakover Road and easily seen from St Georges Road.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Just a footnote - the City Circle tram referred to above carries the number 1000.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Another footnote: These trams have now disappeared from the road they were occupying at Preston, and our out of sight from Oakover Road and St Georges Road at least. I have no idea where they are.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Another footnote: These trams have now disappeared from the road they were occupying at Preston, and our out of sight from Oakover Road and St Georges Road at least. I have no idea where they are.
Valvegear

Saw two of them in the St Georges Road depot around 30 minutes ago as I drove past.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Saw two of them in the St Georges Road depot around 30 minutes ago as I drove past.
"bevans"
Ah! A bit of shffling going on.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Pantos down.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Hi Bevans,
    Can I ask what's the reason that you used "St. Georges Rd. depot" instead of Preston Workshop, or do you actually mean what's colloquially known as Thornbury Depot?  Actually, does the Thornbury Depot still exist?  From a photo on Vicsig the facing point leading to the site still exists on the down line, but I remember reading that the land was being redevelopped.  An external look of the restaurant trams is on the agenda of my revisit later this month, so any news about them is appreciated.  Thanks.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
According to today's Melbourne "Age", Colonial Tramcars is suing Yarra Trams et al for failing to honour an agreement to provide three trams.

"The owner of Melbourne's restaurant trams is suing public transport bodies over claims a $10 million sale fell through after its carriages were taken off the rails.

The Colonial Tramcar restaurant is suing Yarra Trams and Public Transport Victoria for allegedly failing to provide it with three trams to continue operating, as per its long-term agreement with the two transport bodies.

Last October, Yarra Trams took all three of the company’s trams, built between 1947 and 1950, out of service, saying their badly weathered structures raised safety concerns in collisions.

Colonial Tramcar Restaurant chief executive Paul O’Brien said at the time that his company was willing to invest millions, but claimed that Bendigo Workshops were unable to schedule the required upgrades of the three trams until 2020.

The company has now filed a Supreme Court writ, citing Yarra Trams and Public Transport Development Authority, part of Public Transport Victoria, as defendants.

The Restaurant is seeking an order that Yarra Trams, or alternatively PTV, perform its obligation under an agreement to provide Colonial Tramcar with three trams in order to run its business.

It claims ‘‘Yarra Trams has breached its duty of co-operation and/or its duty of good faith contrary to the terms of the Current Tramcar Agreement’’.
Colonial Tramcar says negotiations for the sale of the business fell through, due to "Yarra Trams' conduct in decommissioning the trams and its refusal to perform its obligation".

It says the sale was worth more than $10 million but that "further particulars of Colonial Tramcar’s loss and damage will be provided prior to trial".

Colonial Tramcar also claims it is not liable to pay Yarra Trams a disputed amount of more than $243,000, which Yarra Trams claimed for maintenance costs and wages between September 14, 2018 and November 23, 2018.
Colonial Tramcar says it paid the amount "under protest and upon and express reservation of its right to recover that amount from Yarra Trams".
  ngarner Assistant Commissioner

Location: Seville
According to today's Melbourne "Age", Colonial Tramcars is suing Yarra Trams et al for failing to honour an agreement to provide three trams.

"The owner of Melbourne's restaurant trams is suing public transport bodies over claims a $10 million sale fell through after its carriages were taken off the rails.

The Colonial Tramcar restaurant is suing Yarra Trams and Public Transport Victoria for allegedly failing to provide it with three trams to continue operating, as per its long-term agreement with the two transport bodies.

Last October, Yarra Trams took all three of the company’s trams, built between 1947 and 1950, out of service, saying their badly weathered structures raised safety concerns in collisions.

Colonial Tramcar Restaurant chief executive Paul O’Brien said at the time that his company was willing to invest millions, but claimed that Bendigo Workshops were unable to schedule the required upgrades of the three trams until 2020.

The company has now filed a Supreme Court writ, citing Yarra Trams and Public Transport Development Authority, part of Public Transport Victoria, as defendants.

The Restaurant is seeking an order that Yarra Trams, or alternatively PTV, perform its obligation under an agreement to provide Colonial Tramcar with three trams in order to run its business.

It claims ‘‘Yarra Trams has breached its duty of co-operation and/or its duty of good faith contrary to the terms of the Current Tramcar Agreement’’.
Colonial Tramcar says negotiations for the sale of the business fell through, due to "Yarra Trams' conduct in decommissioning the trams and its refusal to perform its obligation".

It says the sale was worth more than $10 million but that "further particulars of Colonial Tramcar’s loss and damage will be provided prior to trial".

Colonial Tramcar also claims it is not liable to pay Yarra Trams a disputed amount of more than $243,000, which Yarra Trams claimed for maintenance costs and wages between September 14, 2018 and November 23, 2018.
Colonial Tramcar says it paid the amount "under protest and upon and express reservation of its right to recover that amount from Yarra Trams".
Valvegear
Good on them, I hope they win after the shoddy way Yarra Trams treated them

Neil

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