2019 Federal Election Thread

 
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
I'm beginning to think that Bill Shorten might've just done a Hillary Clinton.  Lose an election all the pundits were expecting him to win.

Regardless, it'll be a long night....

The Senate will be interesting too.
Carnot
....another UK Brexit vote.

Yep

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  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Libs have probably won a few Tasmanian seats too.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
This is a repudiation of the radical climate change agenda - people didn't want to pay more for electricity to save us from an imaginary problem. No Labor government, in fact it's looking like a LNP majority.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
The ALP has been walloped in Queensland, and now must pick up seats in WA and NT to have any chance. It's a very slim hope.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Antony Greene just said on the numbers he is seeing, he can't possibly see the ALP forming Govt, all the numbers are pointing to an LNP retain.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

A very surprising and disappointing result.

LNP federal government for another 3 years.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
A very surprising and disappointing result.

LNP federal government for another 3 years.
True Believers
On a positive note, we can keep the Scott Morrison imploding thread going.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
At 21:00, with 28% of available votes counted, but not including WA and excluding the 28% of pre-poll votes still to be counted and a 4% swing to the LNP in Queensland...Antony Green is calling it for the Morrison government Exclamation

Mike.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

This is a repudiation of the radical climate change agenda - people didn't want to pay more for electricity to save us from an imaginary problem. No Labor government, in fact it's looking like a LNP majority.
don_dunstan
The problem is not imaginary. People are just ignorant about it. This wasn't the only issue at play in the election.

The LNP has no vision, little policies and very unstable. Unbelievable.

They won because of fearing people having higher taxes, the economy, losing jobs, distrust in Bill, we can't afford Labor, etc.

Labor lost cause of the unpopular leader and taking risky policies that may affect too many voters.

I guess this would mean maybe Labor should consider changing its leader.

It's a shame, cause in Victoria for infrastructure LNP still wants to fund the East-West Link. No funds for Metro Tunnel or SRL. What a shame.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Would appear swings against the ALP in all but the Soviet Socialist Republic of Victoria and of course WA waiting for credible count.

Its interesting as in
NSW - recent state govt election, obviously not too much distrust to Gladys and a swing away from ALP in the ethnic heartland.
Vic - obviously still a popular state ALP govt and plenty of "another Mike"'s to prop up the support for their hero.
SA - well, mostly left wing voters anyway
Qld - ALP state govt support is variable

WA is likely to push the Morrison govt over the line.


...and according to Julia Bishop, every time the Sydney swans play on election night and win, the LNP win.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
No, it's a repudiation of the radical plan for carbon-free, no doubt about it. People like me can't afford more for electricity - I'm not a very wealthy person, it affects me directly if I can't afford to turn on the heater.

The Labor Party forgot all about people like me and now they've been punished for it.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
This is a repudiation of the radical climate change agenda - people didn't want to pay more for electricity to save us from an imaginary problem. No Labor government, in fact it's looking like a LNP majority.
The problem is not imaginary. People are just ignorant about it. This wasn't the only issue at play in the election.

The LNP has no vision, little policies and very unstable. Unbelievable.

They won because of fearing people having higher taxes, the economy, losing jobs, distrust in Bill, we can't afford Labor, etc.

Labor lost cause of the unpopular leader and taking risky policies that may affect too many voters.

I guess this would mean maybe Labor should consider changing its leader.

It's a shame, cause in Victoria for infrastructure LNP still wants to fund the East-West Link. No funds for Metro Tunnel or SRL. What a shame.
True Believers
The ALP claiming the LNP is unstable, vote for us have rocks in their head and short memories. Yes the LNP has had problems, so did ALP. I wouldn't say either have actually listened to the people on selection and dumping leaders. If SCOMO win's then he probably has a good chance of seeing the next election, however the same cannot be easily said against Billy due to his low starting point.

Agree, the population wants action against climate change, what they don't want is the more radical approach which is what Bill was offering.

Bill will resign if he doesn't win, this was his chance and to their credit the ALP backed him through thick and thin, but not losing the election.

Don't worry about the E-W link, the state govt won't take the money.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
It is indeed looking more likely that sooner rather than later, Shorten will have to concede.

I wonder how gracious he will be in defeat? While respecting the democratic process in his speech, will he wonder out aloud why the majority of people are happy with stagnant wages despite increasing company profits? Or why the 'benefits' of forgoing penalty rates has not transpired into lower unemployment? Will he question why most people think that more pollution is good, and indeed preferable? Will he bemoan the fact that a selfish and noisy group of wealthy SMSF holders have scared the Great Unwashed?

No, I expect him to be gracious, period.

Time will tell.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Interesting how the different organisations have very different predictions

AEC - almost has the two neck and neck
ABC - LNP within arms reach of victory
NINE - shows BASS likely to go back to ALP
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Antony Green has officially called it, he can't see a way of the ALP forming govt, he doesn't know whether the Morrison led govt will be a majority, or minority
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
It is indeed looking more likely that sooner rather than later, Shorten will have to concede.

I wonder how gracious he will be in defeat? While respecting the democratic process in his speech, will he wonder out aloud why the majority of people are happy with stagnant wages despite increasing company profits? Or why the 'benefits' of forgoing penalty rates has not transpired into lower unemployment? Will he question why most people think that more pollution is good, and indeed preferable? Will he bemoan the fact that a selfish and noisy group of wealthy SMSF holders have scared the Great Unwashed?

No, I expect him to be gracious, period.

Time will tell.
DirtyBallast
I think he will and be very surprised otherwise, he maybe alot of things but that won't be one of them.

Over the years I cannot recall too many being anything but at the higher level, but have seen the odd back bench MP or wanna be blame the voter for getting it wrong.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Antony Green has officially called it, he can't see a way of the ALP forming govt, he doesn't know whether the Morrison led govt will be a majority, or minority
lsrailfan
The issue will be if SCOMO does win, how big a statue will the LNP have to build in his name!

not sure what will be louder, the applause entering the party nerve centre or his wife banging the door tonight when they get home.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
One significant thing we have learnt - don't trust opinion polls. Their figures were a long way off the mark. It makes me wonder about their methodology.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
One significant thing we have learnt - don't trust opinion polls. Their figures were a long way off the mark. It makes me wonder about their methodology.
Valvegear
We are observing an affect from the 2016 US election - people don't vote how they tell other people they're going to vote. Unusual to say the least...
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Ashamed of admitting they were voting LNP!
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
It seems that ScoMo has "done a Keating" and won the unwinnable election.
  ANR Assistant Commissioner

Barrie Cassidy has overruled Green saying that nobody knows how prepoll will pan out. It could help ALP forming minority govt if they win seats that have Lib swings on election day thanks to prepoll.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Point of Order! Cassidy can't "overrule" Greene. He may certainly disagree.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Early Senate results are of interest.  There's a good chance that Jacqui Lambie will be back!
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Overall swing to the Coalition of 1.2%.  Pollsters might have to re-write their methodology....

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