The costs associated with developing, installing and running a buffet module are an order of magnitude greater than the revenue provided by that module. Then, of course, you have the opportunity cost of losing half a car's worth of seats.Buffet modules are expensive to instal and haemorrhage money in service. They will be appearing on the standard gauge line (six units at this stage) for political reasons, not because they make economic sense. At best, new-build broad gauge VLocity sets will get a few vending machines.Yes, we are supposed to get 5 car Vlocity sets with buffet cars for the long hauls. Warrnambool, Ararat, Maryborough (and places North), Echuca, Shepparton, Bairnsdale.Dream on.
The only buffet-equipped sets will be for the standard gauge line to Albury. Expect to see them being tested late next year.
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Buffet cars are provided on the current longer distance V/Line services, are we saying this will not be the case for the proposed Vlocity sets for the SG longer distance services?
Albury Services we have to wait another 2 years for the rolling stock?
No one is dying of hunger on the Bairnsdale service. It turns out that passengers can survive just fine going four hours without a stale sausage roll or a cup of rancid coffee.
Hi and again welcome aboard Nimble Jack.
I'm not certain where you get your information from, however suffice to say though the Albury line may be the first to get the new Inter-city V'Locity's, it's a given that they will retain the refresh service in a similar way to todays N cars.
I'm not certain that the new trains will have entirely vending machines either due to a number of factors...potential vandalism being one.
The new trains aren't being designed as 5 car units for nothing and it's a fair bet there will be more than enough room for a proper buffet module, or at the very least a trolley service or a possibly a combination of the two.
Moreover it's easy to say...'passengers can survive just fine going four hours without a stale sausage roll or a cup of rancid coffee', yet even on a 1 hour Sydney flight and particularly on a 4 hour Melbourne - Cairns flight people often partake of a proper meal service...so in your opinion what makes a 4 hour flight any different to a 4 hour train journey
Furthermore...if the government was looking at making economic sense...we would be back in the bad old days of the economic rationalists and we would replace all the Albury and other long-distance services with buses to enable the best return for the PT $ and we all know that's not going to happen.
Taxpayers generally don't mind subsidising public transport. They do mind - and rightfully so - having their pockets picked whenever a train patron decides to swill a two-dollar cup of coffee that has cost $20 to produce. We no longer have on-board alcohol sales to cushion the blow.
Albury will get their precious buffet modules. Everyone else will have to make do with that rarest of commodities, foresight. There may be vending machines, and just possibly trolley service, but that's as good as it will get.
Airlines, for their part, are happy to lavish patrons with three-course meals, fancy chocolates and fizzy champagne, as they make a handsome profit from doing so. Until V/Line patrons start clamouring for $30 meat pies, that will never happen with the railways.