THIS is what's going to drive CFD-DAN quadruplication

tayser · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:26 pm

Thanks to Grollo from OzScrapers, of which this is a quote of:

John of Melbourne · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:14 am

What are the circles on the map supposed to represent? The report talks about a spine between the station and the Town Hall, but the circles are centred on the development site of the former cattle yards near the station and the Dandenong Plaza shopping centre. The Town Hall is approximately in the middle of the red hatched area.

Mr. Lane · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:32 am

Ok finally its letting me post...

Anyway i wouldnt get too exited about this plan...at least not for a while.

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realmakoym8 · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:04 am

So when does Stud road and Dandenong road get a light rail or a we expected to drive and pay $6 an hour to have our car in sight of being stolen?

There is only one way any building or object or structure could collapse strait down. You would have to remove the resistence below it.
The force of the building pushing up is greater than that of the part of the building falling down.

tayser · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:38 pm

PalmerEldritch · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:40 pm

This is fantastic news Tayser. Very Happy

Expect a bit of reaction from residents and local media (especially the reactionary Journal)

However council is on the right track and I am aware that the planning department has been going all out in their efforts to provide a response to Dandenong's designation as a transit city under Melbourne 2030.

Had a quick read of the pdf files but will have a more thorough read of them later. It looks very promising.

The main objection I had was their proposal to just relocate Chisholm Tafe to "central Dandy"

What is needed (and this can include Chisholm Tafe as a partner), is for one of the major university's to step in and open up a new campus just to the north of the station (in an area occupied by grendas bus parking and the cheese factory etc). The area has been designated on maps of the stockyards development as a potential university/tafe campus.

This is exactly what is needed to bring 30 or 40000 students into the area and clear out the undesirables that loiter around the station.

I hope Greater Dandenong Council continues on with the foundation it has built for the future and goes on to implement its proposals.

The sooner this starts getting off the plans and onto the ground the sooner we can have quadruplication from Caulfield to Dandy!

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tayser · Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:08 am

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/09/10/1094789689913.html

Blueprint for a smoother ride to work
By Royce Millar, Selma Milovanovic
September 11, 2004

Passengers at Flinders Street Station.
Picture:Paul Harris

A $300 million upgrade of the Dandenong rail line and an extension of SmartBus services in the eastern suburbs are priority projects under a new transport blueprint to be released soon by the State Government.

The Metropolitan Transport Plan, now in draft formand to be approved by State cabinet, outlines the Government's direction in transport to 2010.

Key initiatives include a third rail track between Dandenong and Caulfield, extension of SmartBus services to create a series of orbital bus routes across Melbourne, and a feasibility study for a public transport link along the Eastern Freeway to Doncaster.

A Government source said an important feature of the plan was the principle that public transport is the answer to congestion in Melbourne. The Government would not release details of the draft plan, said Kate Leonard, a spokeswoman for Transport Minister Peter Batchelor, but she said it was "the Bracks Government's strategy to tackle emerging public transport issues over the next five to 10 years".

"With congestion an increasing problem in metropolitan Melbourne, we need to develop smarter ways to use our existing roads," she said. "Greater use of public transport will help ease congestion, but we need to make it more attractive for users."

The travel plan stems from the State Government's longterm metropolitan strategy, Melbourne 2030, announced two years ago.

Under the plan the Government aims to have 20 per cent of trips taken in Melbourne by public transport by 2020. The present figure is 9 per cent.

In rail, the Dandenong line upgrade is top priority. The Government believes the line is at capacity and action is needed to avoid passengers being left stranded at stations. While the upgrade is not costed, sources estimate a third track would cost about $300 million.

With two-thirds of Melbourne's population relying on buses for public transport, the bus system is increasingly the focus for transport planning. The SmartBus system — buses that run more frequently than the Melbourne average, and have priority at traffic lights — run on Blackburn and Springvale roads.

The plan proposes to extend these services to Warrigal Road in the short term, and envisages a series of orbital buses linking the east and west. The plan will also highlight the extension of existing services into growth areas.

"We spend a lot on buses at the moment and the aim is to spend more if we get the Smart- Bus program working properly," one Government source said.

Bus Association Victoria president John Stanley said the plan should "address extra service levels, particularly in areas like the City of Casey, where there has been considerable growth but a lack of infrastructure".

Mr Stanley said he hoped the plan would focus on an orbital bus service along Warrigal Road, Manningham Road and Bell Street.

A public transport link to Doncaster has been discussed since the Eastern Freeway was built in the late 1970s. Space was allowed on the freeway's median for a rail link that was never built.

A statement of commitments, including a $30 million system giving trams priority over cars at traffic lights, is included in the draft plan. Sources say the Government has ruled out a major upgrade of the West Gate Bridge or building a West Gate tunnel.

The Government's advisory committee on Melbourne 2030 has warned that, without investment in public transport, the plan will fail.

Community transport consultant John McPherson said there was no need to spend $300 million on the Dandenong rail line because problems could be solved by better timetables, extra services or longer trains.

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better timetables: myeah
extra services: YES
longer trains: NO.
third track: iffy.
a sign that at least -something- is being looked at: good.

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Nexas · Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:14 am

They should really do it properly, and do it as 4 tracks.

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tayser · Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:24 am

$300 million though - surely that includes -some- grade seperation?

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standard_gauge · Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:29 am

Local light rail plans likely to disappear without a trace...

Remember few years back St Kilda wanted a few similar one?
In the meant time, Dandenong might as well continue to run the free shopping center/rail station shuttle bus.

Mr. Lane · Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:04 pm

$300 million is alot of money for an extra track, and yes i know it means extra signals and such...

At least we are not getting anymore road tunnels, and for that as rail enthusiests we should be happy. The more road congestion the better Twisted Evil

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If the goverment wants 20% of all trips to be public transport...thats going to need alot more trains and alot more tracks, even if alot of the 11% increase is absorbed by busses. Keep Hitachis is storage I say...

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PalmerEldritch · Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:48 pm

A third track from Caulfield to Dandenong including grade seperation of all level crossings would include: Grange Rd, Koornang Rd, Murrumbeena Rd, Poath Rd, Clayton Rd, Centre Rd, Springvale Rd, Corrigan Rd, Heatherton Rd and Chandler Rd.

How much time approximately would that shave off the average 25 minute stop all stations trip between CFD-DAN?

I hope they go for four tracks instead of three, what they're proposing is a band-aid solution.

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Ó hAilpín, Houlihan, Walker, Simpson, Betts and co!

Mr. Lane · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:33 am

Do level crossings really slow trains down...I thought they were more of a pest to traffic than anything else.

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tayser · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:54 am

regardless, we don't want them (level crossings).

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ShaunDXB · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:05 am