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TA 2000
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:13 am
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South Austraila and Commonwealth Railways
Frequently Asked Questions.
Last Updated At: 23:50 hours CST on Tuesday the 23rd Of January 2008.
| Commercial Operators wrote: | Current Commercial Operators In South Australia
Queensland Rail National (QRN) -[url] www.qr.com.au[/url]
Genesee & Wyoming Australia (GWA) - formally ARG & ASR
Freightlink - www.freightlink.com.au (All Trains Operated by GWA for Freightlink)
Pacific National (PN)
TransAdelaide (TA) - Metro Rail Network - www.transadelaide.com.au
Great Southern Railway (GSR) - www.gsr.com.au (Trains Operated by Pacfic National)
Patrick Rail Operations
Specialised Container Transport - (Trains hauled by Pacific National) |
Tourist Operators In South Australia
Lions Club of Yorke Peninsula Rail (LCYPR, YPR) - www.ypr.org.au
Pichi Richi Railway (PRR) - www.prr.org.au
Steamranger - www.steamranger.org.au
| trackrights wrote: | Track Rights
The following operators have Track Access Rights / Ownership of the Line
DTEI-TA : Adelaide - Belair (broad gauge), Goodwood - Noarlunga Centre, Woodlands Park - Tonsley, Adelaide - Outer Harbor, Woodville - Grange, Adelaide - Gawler Central
GWA
Gawler Central - Penrice
Gawler - Roseworthy
Tailem Bend - Loxton
Tailem Bend - Pinnaroo
Port Lincoln - Ceduna/Kimba Ceduna - Kevin
The Following Lines are owned by GWA but are closed to all Traffic at the moment.
Nurioopta - Angaston
Roseworthy - Kapunda/Burra/Balakava
Montaro South - Apamurra
Kimba - Buckleboo
Kapinnie Branch
ARTC : Adelaide - Wolseley, Adelaide - Spencer Junction/Whyalla, Crystal Brook - Broken Hill, Spencer Junction - Kalgoorlie, Pt Adelaide - Dry Creek, Glanville - Pelican Point, Tarcoola - Alice Springs(Long Term Lease)
NRG Flinders : Sturling North - Leigh Creek (Note: All trains operated by Pacfic National for NRG Flinders.
OneSteel : Whyalla Stealworks - Iron Baron / Iron Knob* (*Disused) (Note: All trains operated by ARG for OneSteel)
Tourist Operators : Mount Barker Junction - Victor Harbor (Steamranger), Pt Augusta - Quorn (Pichi Richi Railway), Wallaroo - Bute (YPR).
Department Of Transport Energy and Infrastructure (DTEI) - These lines are closed to all traffic.
Bute - Snowtown
Wolseley - Mount Gambier
Mount Gambier - State Border/Millicent
Kevin - Penong
Peterbourgh - Eurelia |
TransAdelaide Info
TransAdelaide have contract with the Public Transport Division to run Adelaide's Suburban Train and Tram network until April 2010.
Railcar Fleet
Currently in service are 11x2000 Class (Power Cars) 18x2100 Class, 30x3000 Class 40(20 Sets)x3100.
Class 2000/2100 'Jumbos' Facts:
Entered Service: 22nd Of Feb 1980
Powered By: The Class 2000 cars are power by Cummins duel six cylinder diesel engines producing 525 hp or 390 kW (2100 rpm). Electrical power supplied by a 175 kVA alternator.
Weight: 2000 class - 68 tonnes / 2100 class - 42 tonnes
Capacity: 2000 class - 64 persons / 2100 class - 104 persons
Fleet Numbers: 2001 - 2012 / 2101 - 2118
Railcar 2009 has been withdrawn from service and used for parts now.
Other Information:
The Class 2000/2100 have the nick name 'jumbos'.
The cars were build by Comeng, in Glanville (Sydney), NSW.
Class 3000/3100
3000/3100 class - twin turbo-charged Mercedes Benz V12 direct injection diesel engines producing 354 kW (1500 rpm). Electrical power supplied by a 400 kVA alternator.
3100 cars cannot operate as a single unit because each car has only one driving compartment. 3000 cars can operate as single units when required.
Capacity:
3000 class - 106 persons
3100 class - 113 persons
Weight of Class 3000/3100 Railcars:
3000 class - 48 tonnes
3100 class - 46 tonnes
Number Of Class 3000/3100 Railcars:
30 x 3000 (Numbers 3001 to 3030)
40 x 3100 (Numbers 3101 to 3140)
(Note: All 3000/3100 railcars are in service at the moment.)
Other Interest Fact On The Class 3000/3100 Railcars.
The First 20 Cars (3001-3008 and 3101-3112) were built by Comeng. The remaining cars (3008-3030 and 3112-3140) were Clyde GM.
These cars first enter service in November 1987. These cars were progressivley introduced on to the network until 1996.
TransAdelaide Network Facts.
Length Of Network:
Adelaide's operating rail system is around 120 kilometres in length.
Stations:
Across Adelaide there are 84 suburban railway stations.
(Note: The following stations have been closed. Millswood, Hawthorn, Clapham and Islington Works.)
Destinations:
TransAdelaide runs train to the following destinations.
Adelaide - Gawler Central (Trains Also Terminate at Dry Creek, Sailsbury and Gawler)
Adelaide - Belair
Adelaide - Noarlunga Centre (Trains Also Terminate at Brighton)
Adelaide - Outer Habour (Trains Also Terminate at Glanville)
Adelaide - Grange
Adelaide - Tonsley (Note: Daytime Monday to Friday Services Only)
I'm interest in becoming a train driver what training/experience do I need to become one?
This has been taken from TransAdelaide's Website.
| Quote: | What training/experience do I need to become a train driver?
All training requirements for driving positions within TransAdelaide are provided through internal training.
It is a requirement to have a current drivers license and it is advantageous to possess a commercial vehicle or heavy vehicle license.
Regency TAFE (SA) in conjunction with TransAdelaide run a Transport Distribution courses for internal staff, however Regency TAFE may have other options available to those people interested in perusing this avenue. Completion of year 11 standard or equivalent is also a requirement.
An ability to become qualified in the designated modules relating to safe train working practices is a requirement for a driving position. Sound mechanical aptitude is also well regarded.
Essential relevant knowledge and experience to be considered for a position as a Train Driver also include the following:-
Experience in a customer service environment, particularly regarding face-to-face contact with customers as well as a demonstrated commitment to providing high quality customer service, is a key element of the position.
Experience in handling customer issues and using initiative to effectively handle difficult and adverse situations.
Experience in an operational environment.
Experience working autonomously.
Desirable knowledge and experience include:-
Sound knowledge of safe working and emergency procedures, to ensure the safety of customers and the provision of a quick and appropriate response to emergency situations.
Knowledge of the relevant aspects of the Passenger Transport Act and Regulations and Conditions of Travel.
Experience in Passenger Transport Board ticketing and associated equipment.
Please note that Train Driver positions are one of the most sought after positions and that these are likely to be filled utilising internal staff for some time. |
Adelaide Suburban System Construction Timetable
Adelaide - Port Adelaide 1856
Adelaide - Gawler/Northfield 1857 (Dry Creek - Northfield Closed and Removed 1987) However cattle trains still used the Dry Creek - Caven section until 1995.
Port Adelaide - Dry Creek 1868 (Now owned by ARTC)
Port Adelaide - Semaphore via St Vincent Street and Jervois Bridge: 3 January 1878 (Street line closed XXXX)
Woodville - Grange 1882
Glanville - Largs Jetty: 23 December 1882 (Street track to jetty removed 1908?)
Adelaide - Belair/Bridgewater 1883 (Note: Belair-Bridgewater was converted to standard gauge in 1995. STA services to Bridgewater ceased in 1987. Single Track working to Belair began on 1st on June 1995.)
Grange - Henley Beach 1894 (Closed 1957, removed 1978)
Largs - Outer Harbour: 16 January 1908 (The line had been opened for goods traffic for the constuction of Outer Harbour in 1903)
Goodwood - Marino 1913
Marino - Hallet Cove/Willunga 1915 (Hallet Cove - Willunga Closed 1969)
Port Adelaide - Glanville via Commercial Road Viaduct: 1916
Sailsbury - Penfield 1941 (Closed and Removed 1991)
Port Stanvac - Christies Downs 1976
Christies Downs - Noarlunga Centre 1978
Great Southern Railway
Great Southern Railway started operations in South Austraila in November 1997. They brought out the old Australian National Passenger arm. GSR runs Indian Pacfic which runs from Sydney to Perth via Adelaide and return, The Ghan which runs from Adelaide to Alice Springs/Darwin and return and The Overland which runs from Adelaide to Melbourne and return.
About the Trains:
The Indian Pacfic is one of the world's longest train journeys running 4352km between Sydney and Perth via Adelaide. The train runs twice weekly. The Indian Pafice goes through some of Australia's most spectacular country from the Blue Mountains to treeless Nullarbor Plain. The train gets it name from the two ocean's that it arrives and departs from. The Indian Pacfic travels along the world's longest straight stretch of railway track of 478 km long.
The Ghan runs between Adelaide and Alice Springs twice weekly and Adelaide and Darwin once a week. The Ghan encounters some great
scenery from the Red Centre to the tropical Top End.
The Overland runs between Adelaide and Melbourne 3 times a week. This was the first intercapital train in Australia. The Overland departs Adelaide Monday,Wednesday and Friday mornings, departs Melbourne Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday mornings.
An Extra Overland may run on public holidays or special events eg AFL finals.
| GWA wrote: | Genesee & Wyoming Australia
(Formally Australia Southern Railroad & Australian Railroad Group)
About Genesee & Wyoming Australia:
GWA main operations in SA are transporting Grain, Gypsum, Iron Ore & Limestone. GWA supply crews, locomotives & wagons to other rail operators.
GWA have operating rights in South Austraila, Western Australia, Northern Territory, New South Wales and Victoria. GWA also have a shareholding in Freightlink which operates & owns the Alice Springs to Darwin Railway.
GWA are the only Board Gauge & Narrow Gauge freight operator in SA.
GWA Train Numbering:
Note: The first number is the day that the train starts running. Sunday 1, Monday 2, Tuesday 3, Wednesday 4, Thursday 5, Friday 6, Saturday 7.
Loxton Line:
K11 Karoonda - Returns K12
K21 Mindarie - Returns K22
K31 Alwoonda - Returns K32
K41 Loxton - Returns K42 |
Tourist Railways In South Australia.
Limestone Coast Railway - Thanks jm1941
Please Note: The Limestone Coast railway have ceased running services as of the end of june 2006.
(Photo by TA 2000)
The LCR currently running: Penola, Kalangadoo and Tantanoola.
To Penola: 2nd and 4th Sundays of the month.
To Kalangadoo or Tantanoola: 1st and 3rd Thursdays and tied in with the Hotels for afternoon tea or lunch.
The 300 class redhen most of time works to Tantanoola on its own (to give it a run) and while passengers have dinner or afternoon tea, the 300 redhen heads to Snuggery and turns on the old Cellulose triangle just past Apcel paper mills as the 300 class is only driven from one end. They pick up passengers on way back to Tanty.
Passengers can if they like stay with the train while it goes to Snuggery and around the triangle, is interesting to see the Apcel Paper mills as you go past.
The 400 class redhen works to Kalanagadoo or Penola, if too many passengers (usually only club wingdings) they use the 300 and 400 together.
Lions Club Of Yorke Peninsula Rail.
www.ypr.org.au
The organisation was formed in 1992 to preserve and operate the line. The first train to run was in 1994. In 2003 the YPR merged with Lions club to form the Lions Club Of Yorke Peninsula Rail this was done as the old organisation was unable to afford public liability insurance.
The Lions Club of Yorke Peninsula Rail run toursit services between Wallaroo and Bute using either Red Hens or the SuperChook set, for running time please refer to YPR Website.
Pichi Richi Railway
Thank You to everyone that has provided information for the Frequently Asked Questions. 
All image's are (c) copyrighted to orginal owners.
Last edited by TA 2000 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:49 pm; edited 32 times in total
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TA3015
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:03 pm
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RE: Closed stations
Was there not also Holdens(Grange line where the double track becomes single between Woodville and Port Road) and also was there a Mile End Passenger and Mile End Goods?
Also there was Tube Mills between Kilburn and Dry Creek.
I follow Van Berloism. What did you put on your Census form?
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:21 pm
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MIle End Passenger is the station that is now known as just Mile End. Mile End Goods was located by the Sir Donald Bradman Drive bridge.
However all of your closed platforms have been since removed - whereas the platforms already shown as closed are still existing.
Just a couple of other corrections I have noticed:
STA services to Northfield ceased in 1987
STA services to Bridgewater ceased in 1987
Henley Beach was closed in 1957
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1S47
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:52 pm
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The Adelaide Suburban System Construction Timetable is good because it includes several long-forgotten sections like Grange to Henley Beach.
It could also include some other suburban branches, which are missing.
Ascot Pk - Tonsley (still operating)
Albert Pk - Hendon
Woodville - Finsbury
Port Dock Station - Pt.A. Junction
Holdens branch at Elizabeth
The last four only had trains at industrial peak hours, but there were several departures in each case. E.g the 1965 Working Timetable shows 4 round trips on Hendon branch in morning peak and 3 round trips in evening peak (M-F).
Sorry I don't know opening or closure dates of these lines.
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:22 pm
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| 1S47 wrote: | The Adelaide Suburban System Construction Timetable is good because it includes several long-forgotten sections like Grange to Henley Beach.
It could also include some other suburban branches, which are missing.
Ascot Pk - Tonsley (still operating)
Albert Pk - Hendon
Woodville - Finsbury
Port Dock Station - Pt.A. Junction
Holdens branch at Elizabeth
The last four only had trains at industrial peak hours, but there were several departures in each case. E.g the 1965 Working Timetable shows 4 round trips on Hendon branch in morning peak and 3 round trips in evening peak (M-F).
Sorry I don't know opening or closure dates of these lines. |
Also, there was the branch to ICI Osborne.
Port Dock was opened on 21/04/1856 and closed13/09/1981.
Hendon was open on 03/11/1940 and closed 01/02/1980.
Finsbury branch was opened on 16/09/1940 and closed 17/08/1979.
ICI Osborne services last ran on 01/01/1980
The Tonsley brach, I believe was opened sometime in 1966, and IIRC, GMH Elizabeth closed in 1992.
I'm not crazy, M'Lynn, I've just been in a very bad mood for 40 years!
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:56 pm
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well done but just a liitle point artc has access from tarcoola to northgate block point at 510.500 km then arg control northgate block point to berrimah
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:39 am
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You are also missing the operators of the Bowans Balco Train, Patricks PortLink.
Regards,
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Re 2000 class. The weight of a 2000 is shown as 76tonnes on the official plans I have. The current motors used are replacement motors, the original motors were MAN flat 12s of 512hp, the original Rolls Royce 6 cyl Genset motors have been replaced on at least 2 cars.
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:02 am
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Okay, I'll add this here.
ARTC Timetables for SA
they get changed about every 6 months, so check it to be up to date.
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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:01 pm
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Hi
Could someone please update the details for running times for the Overland? It is quite out of date and may mislead.
cheers Peter
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In recent months, we have a had a couple of interstate visitors request Jumbo timetables. This is the list that I came up with for someone_in_the_www.
ALL SERVICES LISTED DEPARTING ADELAIDE
Gawler Central line (morning and afternoon peak services only)
9:27am, express to Dry Creek, stopping all stations after (departs Gawler Central at 10:28am)
1:57pm, express to Dry Creek, stopping all stations affter (departs Gawler Central at 2:58pm)
2:15pm, limited stop service (departs Gawler at 3:21pm)
2:40pm, stopping all stations to Salisbury, limited service afterwards (departs Gawler 3:54pm as a limited service all the way back to Adelaide.
4:30pm, stopping all stations to Salisbury (departs Salisbury 5:07pm stopping all stations to Adelaide)
Noarlunga Centre line/Tonsely Line(morning and afternoon peak services only)
5:24am, express all the way to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre at 6:05am stopping all stations to Brighton, then express to Adelaide).
6:14am, express to Brighton, stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre 7:03am stopping all stationa to Brighton then express to Adelaide).
6:27am, express to Woodlands Park, then stopping all stations to Tonsely (departs Tonsely at 7:00am stopping all stations to Adelaide).
6:35am, express to Brighton, stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre 7:26am stopping all stations to Brighton then express to Adelaide).
6:51am, express to Brighton, stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre 7:39am express all the way to Adelaide).
7:19am, express to Woodlands Park, then express to Ascot Park, then stopping all stations to Brighton (departs Brighton 7:56am stopping all stations to Ascot Park, the express to Woodlands Park, then express to Emerson, then express to Adelaide).
7:54am, express to Woodlands Park, then express to Ascot Park, then stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre 8:45am stopping all stations to Brighton, then express Oaklands, then express to Adelaide).
1:28pm, express to Oaklands, then express to Brighton, then stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre at 2:15pm stopping all stations to Brighton, then express to Oaklands, then express to Adelaide).
2:28pm, express to Oaklands, then express to Brighton, then stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre at 3:15pm stopping all stations to Ascot Park, then express to Adelaide).
3:10pm, express to Oaklands, then express to Brighton, then stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre 4:00pm stopping all stations to Brighton, then express to Oaklands, then express to Adelaide).
3:50pm, express to Woodlands Park, then express to Ascot Park, then express to Brighton (departs Brighton at 4:38pm stopping all stations to Adelaide).
3:56pm, express to Oaklands, then express to Brighton then stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre at 4:45pm stopping all stations to Brighton then express to Adelaide).
4:14pm, express to Oaklands, then express to Brighton, then stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre at 5:04pm stopping all stations to Brighton, then express to Woodlands Park, then express to Adelaide).
4:49pm, express to Woodlands Park, then stopping all stations to Brighton (departs Brighton at 5:16pm stopping all stations to Woodlands Park, then express to Adelaide).
5:10pm, express to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre stopping all stations to Woodlands Park, then express to Adelaide).
5:14pm, express to Hallet Cove, then stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre at 6:30pm stopping all stations to Goodwood, then express to Adelaide).
5:18pm, express to Woodlands Park then stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (departs Noarlunga Centre at 7:00pm stopping all stations to Goodwood, then express to Adelaide).
5:47pm, express to Brighton, then express to Hallet Cove, then stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (stables at Lonsdale Depot).
6:12pm, express to Woodlands Park, then stopping all stations to Noarlunga Centre (stables at Lonsdale Depot).
Grange line (morning peak only)
7:29am, stopping all stations to Grange (departs Grange at 7:55am stopping all stations to Adelaide).
Outer Harbour line(morning peak only)
7:24, stopping all stations to Woodville, then express to Glanville (departs Glanville at 7:49am, stopping all stations to Woodville, then express to Adelaide).
7:48, stopping all stations to Woodville, then express to Glanville (departs Glanville at 8:13am, stopping all stations to Woodville, then express to Adelaide).
Belair line (weekend and public holidays services only)
9:55am, 11:55am, 1:55pm, 3:55pm and 5:55pm, express to Keswick then stopping all stations (departs Belair at 10:35am, 12:35pm, 2:35pm, 4:35pm and 6:35pm).
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hi im new to this. I have an interest in trains but dont have the passion or knowledge that some of you guys have. Anyway can someone tell me or direct me to somewhere, on these codes you have for trains ie 6MA5 or whatever. Now I gather MA means Melbourne to Adelaide but whats the other numbers mean, thanks
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:45 pm
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| eastadl wrote: | | hi im new to this. I have an interest in trains but dont have the passion or knowledge that some of you guys have. Anyway can someone tell me or direct me to somewhere, on these codes you have for trains ie 6MA5 or whatever. Now I gather MA means Melbourne to Adelaide but whats the other numbers mean, thanks |
6 being the day of the week for exsample...
1 - Sunday
2 - Monday
3 - Tuesday
4 - Wednesday
5 - Thursday
6 - Friday
7 - Saturday
And im not quite sure what the otehr one means i think its the order of the trains?
Cheers ,
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:22 am
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The last number is the operator of the trains. PN has quite a few though! 8 is for GSR, 9 is for the SCT runs, 6 I 'think' is for the QRN services over the hills. I am not 100% sure about the last one though.
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