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aus.rail Chief Train Controller   Joined: Jan 12, 2003
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 9:05 pm
It must be true, I read it in a Readers Digest book.

The Darling Harbour monorail uses magnetic levitation.

In a book on 20th century inventions, there is a section on magnetic
levitation railways. They list several places where it is in use, including
Sydney, and have an illustration of the monorail.

I guess that explains why it goes so fast. Smile


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DaveV Junior Train Controller   Joined: May 06, 2003
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:43 pm
and why it cost so much.

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

one problem though, maglev is silent. hmm back to the old drawing board there. Wink
 
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nazarail Chief Commissioner   Joined: Feb 08, 2003
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:43 am
im sure that the monorail in syd runs on wheels! if ya have a look you see them at the frount of the monorail. and the black strip on the train is fot tration.



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hidave Station Master   Joined: Feb 26, 2003
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 11:22 am
It isn't maglev...you can see for yourself go to

http://www.metrolightrail.com.au/about/monorail.pdf

it clearly has bogies and wheels....no maglev
 
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DaveV Junior Train Controller   Joined: May 06, 2003
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 7:51 pm
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im sure that the monorail in syd runs on wheels! if ya have a look you see them at the frount of the monorail. and the black strip on the train is fot tration.


Absolutely, it certainly isn't maglev,
there have been a few propossed here in Aus one for the High Speed Line to canberra (dumped) and another was mooted for the Wollongong run (pipe dream more than a serious attempt), the first commertial line was opened in January this year, with plenty of projects under plan around the world, will be interesting to watch? Although it may just be me but if its not wheel on rail then its not a train?

Longyang Road station to Pudong airport Shanghai Maglev

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993153


Wanna do 500km/h on the ground? Look here,

http://www.rtri.or.jp/rd/maglev/html/english/maglev_frame_E.html

Another great site with lost of useful links to maglev sites,

http://faculty.washington.edu/~jbs/itrans/maglevq.htm
 
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traincontroller Station Staff   Joined: Aug 03, 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:26 pm
thats what i thought too
 
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blakjak Chief Commissioner   Joined: Aug 14, 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:51 pm
I think you guys missed the tounge in cheek, we all know the Sydney monorail isn't maglev.

I kinda like the monorail, only if it did a bigger loop taking in Central station it would serve a better purpose. Also if the trams (nee light rail) utilised the Broadway tunnel to Railway Square it would also serve more ppl.
 
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reynolds2 Locomotive Driver   Joined: Jun 21, 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:32 pm
Maglev is such an expensive thing to run,
I don't think you would be paying under $5 a fare for a maglev ride.



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gboaf Chief Train Controller   Joined: Feb 07, 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:09 pm
A Maglev would be nice to have here, with our long distances.

However, the recent crash of the Transrapid 08 in Emsland will paint a very bleak picture of Maglev safety, regardless of whatever the actual cause of the accident, and how safe the technology might be. Rolling Eyes

The media (BBC) also mentioned the electrical fire of the Transrapid in Shanghai and used that to paint them as unsafe.. Rolling Eyes

Lovely technology though. Smile

The Transrapid International site explains the technology well:

http://www.transrapid.de/

Nicely produced videos as well.  
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wongm Minister for Railways   Joined: May 26, 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:35 pm
gboaf wrote:
However, the recent crash of the Transrapid 08 in Emsland will paint a very bleak picture of Maglev safety, regardless of whatever the actual cause of the accident, and how safe the technology might be. Rolling Eyes

So far it has been put down to human error: starting up the Maglev when a track machine was still on the tracks.

blakjak wrote:
I kinda like the monorail, only if it did a bigger loop taking in Central station it would serve a better purpose. Also if the trams (nee light rail) utilised the Broadway tunnel to Railway Square it would also serve more ppl.

One problem: if the monorail actually went anywhere, then it would get actual passengers. And they won't fit: the monorail can only carry ~50 odd passengers!



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Simes_mk2 Chief Commissioner   Joined: Feb 03, 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:05 pm
Anything above ground like the monorail or maglev is a worry to me, at least with an elevated railway (with 2 tracks) you at least have a platform to work from beside the train when something goes wrong, whereas with maglev and monorail it's all ladder and cherry picker work.....



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blakjak Chief Commissioner   Joined: Aug 14, 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:53 pm
I think they fit more than 50 ppl if you include the ppl who can stand up. They can always put on alot of extra trains to increase the frequency as they all go to the same place so catching 'the next 1' wont be an issue & congestion isn't as big as a problem as it is on conventional railways.
 
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SM247 Deputy Commissioner   Joined: May 04, 2005
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:15 am
Maglev would be far too expensive initially - can anybody imagine what the cost even of Canberra to Sydney would be, let alone say Brisbane/Gold Coast to Sydney to Canbera to Melbourne? It would be a nice alternative to flying someday but I imagine the technology would be prohibitively expensive for such a long route, which is the only one where it would make economic sense to have 500km/hr running. Maybe in a few hundred years when we have room-temperature or higher superconductors, fusion power and ceramic metal hybrid materials. Very Happy

TGVs along that route, between Adelaide and Melbourne and Perth and Sydney would be nice in the meantime, but thats also a pipe dream going back to Gough.
 
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:34 am
Yes, for me an LGV makes much more sense over this Maglev stuff. Maglev has its uses in enclosed environments such as large airports, but is rubbish at Urban Transit or Inter-City transport IMO for the reasons demonstrated in Germany last week. At least with an LGV there's no need to build a separate inner city terminal is there...
 
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blakjak Chief Commissioner   Joined: Aug 14, 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:00 pm
How can you use the accident in Germany last week as an example of a bad system? The system didn't fail in any way, it was human error.
Just because some nutjob made a mistake it doesn't make the system unsafe.

Apart from money issues, the MAGLEV idea is a good 1.
 
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