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mattrawls
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Location: Newport Workshops (Steamrail)
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:59 pm
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Thats cool I am just asking.
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VRfan
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:06 pm
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I allways thought they used the same shade of red? Oh well, you learn something new everyday  |
I think they had to change a couple of years because the correct shade was no longer manufactured. However, it's only a little bit off and when it fades it looks much the same
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DavidB
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Location: Canberra
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:11 pm
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| michaelgreenhill wrote: | | DavidB wrote: | | mattrawls wrote: | | Just wondering will 1BCE have steamrails wellow line under the windows? |
SteamRail use a lighter shade of red, so it would need a complete reskin. |
I allways thought they used the same shade of red? Oh well, you learn something new everyday |
The traditional VR "tomato red" is what you see on the MSTS models. SteamRail uses a shade which is (I think) the same as steam loco detailing (e.g. R and J class). It's very close to Signal Red.
You can get paint made up to any shade so that's not an issue. IIRC, the SteamRail livery is simply a continuation of the original Vintage Train livery. This is how the V cars, Pioneer, Enterprise and Yarra were painted in the 70s.
Cheers
David
Last edited by DavidB on Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:15 pm; edited 1 time in total
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MattAustin
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Location: Junee, NSW
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:14 pm
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Aaargh!!!
The wrong red?
Does this mean that my AW cars are wrong? I painted them to match the Steamrail cars, but I also have photographic evidence from the 50s/60s of freshly painted cars being that bright. I've tried to modify them to have an alternate version with faded paint, but my PSP skills aren't up to scratch - I seem to end up with strange green or blue hues! Damn...
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Matt Austin
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K163
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Location: Well you see that house over there? Well it's not that one.
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:21 pm
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don't worry about it Matt, they sill look good.
Regards,
Craig Walton
What I say here is my thoughts, and doesn't represent the MRPS or Woolworths ltd... smeg imagine it did!
If you want to loose weight, don't eat anything that comes in a BUCKET!
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DavidB
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:23 pm
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| MattAustin wrote: | Aaargh!!!
The wrong red?
Does this mean that my AW cars are wrong? I painted them to match the Steamrail cars, but I also have photographic evidence from the 50s/60s of freshly painted cars being that bright. I've tried to modify them to have an alternate version with faded paint, but my PSP skills aren't up to scratch - I seem to end up with strange green or blue hues! Damn... |
It shouldn't really matter too much. Ex-works cars are always a bit brighter, plus older photography used different colour techniques which looked a bit washy compared to today. The AWs don't look out of place.
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David
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MattAustin
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:38 pm
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Fair enough. Just out of interest, though, could anyone with PSP7 experience advise me on the best way to change the colours?
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Matt
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michaelgreenhill
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:23 pm
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OK, here goes ::
I used AWtex1.ace and fiddled around in PSP to get it to the correct colours.
To start changing the colours, go Colours | Adjust | Brightness/Contrast...
I changed the Brightness to -60, and the Contrast to -10.
Resulting in ::
Of course you'd only select the areas that you wanted to change.
Hope that helps
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VRfan
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:30 pm
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You could also try de-saturating the colours in the image. However, I'm not sure how to do this in PSP.
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VRfan
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 8:23 pm
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The cupola view is starting to take shape now... 
I haven't been in a BCE for quite some time, so one or two things may be off. :/
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michaelgreenhill
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 8:40 pm
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That's brilliant 
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Spirit of Progress
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:41 pm
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<takes my hat off and applaudes>
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Kind Regards
Ben Shields
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michaelgreenhill
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:45 pm
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*pinches your hat and puts it on my head* 
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MattAustin
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 11:59 pm
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Well, I thought I'd seen everything! Superb!
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matt Austin
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VRfan
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:44 pm
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Just a new update on my progress. The basic model is now finished, so I just have to tweak the .wag files a little bit and make a second set of textures for 1BCE with SECOND lettering. 
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