Werebee Racecourse and Toilets at former Lal Lal station

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Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

Something I found quite amusing: http://www.kparnell.netfirms.com/Geelong_Ballarat/Lal_Lal/Lal_Lal7.jpg
Why on earth are there 3 doors?

Maybe one is a seperate room for washing hands?  Its hard to see in this pic.

Here is the station page: http://www.kparnell.netfirms.com/Geelong_Ballarat/Lal_Lal/Lal_Lal.html
This is an excellent site for anyone who has not seen it.

On the topic of Werebee racecourse, this station is now disused, but was originally going to be part of the suburban network.  Why was the electricfication in the 80's cancelled (i could guess why) and does this station have any real passanger potential today?
 
Dreadnought Assistant Commissioner

Location: Oooh, look! [Pointing upwards] An eagle!!
Q1 - Male, Female and Undecided????

Q2 - From what I've been told, Werribee Racecourse would have required a load of track and signalling work and would have been a pain in the posterior for regular traffic whenever they tried to terminate sparks there so they didn't bother.  Add to that the extra staff onsite there just for that traffic on the days in question.

Furthermore with the SG going through between the platform and the racetrack, racegoers (in various states of happiness/sadness/drunkeness - depending on how their horse went) would have got to play tag with the NRs and DLs at the pedestrian crossings (and we all know how the average member of the public treats level crossings with the utmost respect....)  An pedestrian underpass would have cost a fortune and only been used once or twice a month so once again, it's not going to add up.

As for the passenger potential, with the growth of Wyndham Vale and the area west of the racecourse, a railway station there would generate some extra traffic - but nothing will happen 'cos Werribee is only 2000 metres away and it already has 400+ parking places (the car park has just been extended again) and the infrastructure upgrade necessary to make Werribee Racecourse a worthwhile proposition would be massive (Bulban Road would also need a hell of an upgrade - it can't even cope with the Werribee Racecourse Market traffic on a Saturday)

Cheers,
Frank "Dreadnought" Strik
 

Location: Banned
On the topic of Werebee racecourse, this station is now disused, but was originally going to be part of the suburban network.  Why was the electricfication in the 80's cancelled (i could guess why) and does this station have any real passanger potential today?
- Mr. Lane


Don't know why it wasn't electrified, but according to the same site you linked to, it isn't accessible to the public without walking over the SG track to the platform, because when the SG line was built behind it the footbridge from the street to the platform was gotten rid of to make way to the SG track.
 
John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
The standard gauge line wasn't there when the Werribee line was electrified, so that had nothing to do with it.

My understanding was that it was to do with the signalling changes required, and the cost of that compared to the benefits.
 
Robuster Chief Train Controller

Location: Werribee
From what I can remember it was electricfied, however (year passes me) but a down west coaster (express thru werribee) decided to take a ditching and left the rails to the geelong side of the level crossing.

This took out a signal gantry and electricfied lines, which were then later removed when the clean up happened.

I believe it was a borrowed Vline car that was the culprit.
 
Tool Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Australia

Here is the station page: http://www.kparnell.netfirms.com/Geelong_Ballarat/Lal_Lal/Lal_Lal.html
This is an excellent site for anyone who has not seen it.
- Mr. Lane


Thanks. It is an interesting site. Shame about the photographer's(?) kids on the tracks though.
 
bigsister Beginner

werribee racecourse platform still exists but unuasable requires overpass
which wasnt a requirement before the sg was built,
the staunches for electrification have  been there but they stopped the wire at werribee .
 
bigsister Beginner

west coast accident had nothing to do with it the wire was never put up past werribee station
 
sterps Train Controller

Location: Wyndham Green, Victoria
I used to live just a 1 minute drive for the the old werribee racecourse station, or a 5 - 10min walk before we moved from there about a year ago, i was there for about 13 years.
From what i can rememeber it never had wires going there, but it did and still has today the poles up for the electric wires. The electric wires continued past the werribee st crossing to about 500m from the station, but after the west coast rail accident the wires stop before the crossing now. I think i remember some V/Lines stopping there when the Werribee cup and race weekends were on, but that was before the national rail. Now its just a platform with the rusted signs saying Werribee Racecourse, the national rail was put between the station and Bulban road.

Out around there, there are alot of house built up now, it would have been handy if the electric trains went there, it took half and hour to walk to werribee station, and you used to have to walk until the bus service was placed through our estate about 5 years ago.

I Always thought that one day they would have electric trains going all the way to Geelong, but i don't think that will ever happen.
 
T411 - Moderator Moderator

Location: Somewhere
west coast accident had nothing to do with it the wire was never put up past werribee station
- bigsister

The wires used to extend to the down side of the crossing at the down end of Werribee. The wires got removed after the accident involving teh West Coaster back in, i think, 1995
 
railfreak746 Station Master
 
hot_dogma Train Controller

Location: Manly ferry
When was the V/Line service that went to Ballarat via North Shore ditched? I remember back in 1996 I caught a pax that left Spencer Street approx 0830 which did this route. A return service left Ballarat approx 1530 although my memory could be wrong with the times.

As late as 2001 I stopped at Meredith on a special and the unmanned station had a blackboard sign which stated the one down and up train a day.
 
Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

The site that i got my info from says they ceased in 1993 along this route.

The sign you could be talking about may well be this one: http://www.stormpages.com/rgth/Geelong_Ballarat/Meredith/Meredith2.jpg
 
michaelgreenhill - Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
I get a 404 error when using that link.
 
 
Ben-P19 Chief Commissioner

Location: Greensborough, Vic
ISTR that this topic has been raised in this forum before.

What I do know is that the map available on the V/Line website showed trains (blue line) between North Shore and Ballarat until at least 1999.
 
Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

Seems both my and somebody in the WWW links dont work, try this one: http://www.kparnell.netfirms.com/Geelong_Ballarat/Meredith/Meredith.html

EDIT: Justed tested it and it is working at the time I write this Smile
 
hot_dogma Train Controller

Location: Manly ferry
Yep that's the sign.  Very Happy
 

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