ARG renumbering?

mjja · Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:20 pm

I read in Newsrail about the ASR/AWR/ANR merger into ARG; it also said a loco renumbering operation would happen. Has this started? What sort of numbers will they be?

bevans · Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:40 am

mjja · Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 11:37 am

Betcha they won't - too many.

With the locos there's three separate systems - the old SAR system of three-digit numbers; the CR/ANR two-letter class names; and the WA single letter stuff with widely varying ranges of numbers. Plus the four-digit numbers for the Aust Northern 22 and 31 class locos, which is my guesstimate that they'll standardise on.

BlueBird 255 · Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 1:35 pm

i here that ASR locos are to be renumbered as follows.
gm 1800
nj 1600
clp/clf 3000

mjja · Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 4:30 pm

That sounds interesting - based on HP like QR did. That would tie in with the 22 and 31 too.

I just hope they don't run out of number ranges like QR did with their 2400hp 1550s.

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Maaaark · Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 6:16 pm

It looks like the AWR DB class will become the 23 class as a recently overhauled DB class has been renumbered 2313 and named Iron Duke (which suggests it's heading to Whyalla for ore train duties).

georails · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:01 am

the newest copy of NRM/ARHS Catchpoint has some details of a few renumberings.
it looks as though there will be a class letter(ALPHA) as well . The order for 4 GM/EMD Locos of 4000HP from EDI is for an FQ class. these are for the Northern Territory line.

Waggons wont be getting renumbered nor reclassed.

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BlueBird 255 · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 12:13 pm

also i here that
ck 1100
da 1000
de 1300 i think
also the 830, 600, 700 are not the be renumbered

Maaaark · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:26 pm

I think the DE one is right. If I remember correctly, a recently overhauled DE (on standard guage) has been renumbered in the 1300 series.

Aussie Cow · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 6:59 pm

awsgc24 · Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:59 pm

Alternately, number these diesel locomotives 61, 62, 63 class, following on from the NSW 60 class.

EMBaldwin · Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2003 8:06 pm

[quote="Aussie Cow]Actually, Australian Southern Railroad, Australian Northern Railroad and Australian Western Railroad are all owned by Australian Railroad Group which is turn owned by an American company. So, in effect ASR, AWR & ANR couldn't merge because they're all the same thing, like CountryLink and CityRail couldn't merge because they're both part of SRA of NSW.[/quote]

Yes, but with the 3 running as three separate divisions of ARG, these 3 divisions could be merged into the one division that trades under the name ARG.

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EMBaldwin · Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2003 8:15 pm

nscaler69 · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:05 pm

The impression i get is the new loco numbers seem to be related to their
horsepower.
eg 31's = 3000 horsepower, number 100 series etc
22's = 2000 horsepower, number 200 series etc Question

Therefore exDB1593 is now 2313. 2000 horsepower, number 300 series.

mars · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:19 pm