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Dr Beeching
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:57 pm
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Is Cairns Tilt train operates the longest push-pull train or tilt train journey in the world?
Hey?..whatever happen to my warning level?
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Rocket
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:46 am
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| James C wrote: | | Is Cairns Tilt train operates the longest push-pull train or tilt train journey in the world? |
I believe that it is, and will no doubt remain the longest diesel push pull / tilt train for all time, unless something happens across the Nullarbor. Not too sure where the longest runs are in Europe but certainly nothing of this length yet. Japan has Tokyo to Fukuoka which is around the 1200kms but slightly quicker than the QR tilt train-------like 4hours 53 minutes with 8 stops.
http://www.jnto.go.jp/cgi-bin/jnto/tt-railway?DATA=01-1d&POS=30
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pennoes
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Location: Tamworth, NSW
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:14 pm
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Pretty amazing speed really isn't it?
1200km in 4 hrs 53 mins with 8 stops. Very impressive.
Imagine if we could have Sydney - Melb with say 5-8 stops. Distance ~950km, and do it in 4 - 4 1/2 hrs.
Similar with Syd - Bris.
I wish it weren't just a dream... 
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Dr Beeching
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:23 pm
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| James C wrote: | | Is Cairns Tilt train operates the longest push-pull train or tilt train journey in the world? |
Brisbane-Cairns=1681km
Closest I can find is
Paris-Barcelona Talgo(tilt train) operates about 1200km,
For pushpull London-Aberdeen HST 1000km
Hey?..whatever happen to my warning level?
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Rocket
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:30 pm
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| James C wrote: | | James C wrote: | | Is Cairns Tilt train operates the longest push-pull train or tilt train journey in the world? |
Brisbane-Cairns=1681km
Closest I can find is
Paris-Barcelona Talgo(tilt train) operates about 1200km,
For pushpull London-Aberdeen HST 1000km |
I will humbly apologise if wrong but I do not believe that the Talgo runs into Paris. My old timetable shows the Barcelona to Paris service as a sleeper and the Talgo trains running out of Geneva-from the French side of the platform. The really unique feature of both of these services is the altering of the gauge of the wheelsets on the Talgo whilst in motion and the changing of the bogies on the sleepers with the passengers tucked up in bed.
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Eaglemist
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:55 am
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ISTR the Talgo went from Barcelona to Montpellier, where you change for a TGV to get to Paris. The gauge change is done at Port Bou. Wasn't particularly fast (160kmh). The cars were not tilt in 1997, but actually only have 2 wheels (1 axle) per car and each car hangs on the one in front, so they are sort of articulated.
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Tonymercury
Dr Beeching
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:40 pm
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| Eaglemist wrote: | | ISTR the Talgo went from Barcelona to Montpellier, where you change for a TGV to get to Paris. The gauge change is done at Port Bou. Wasn't particularly fast (160kmh). The cars were not tilt in 1997, but actually only have 2 wheels (1 axle) per car and each car hangs on the one in front, so they are sort of articulated. |
The Hotel EN trains do Barcelona to Zurich overnight, every night in about 13 hours - Tains En 273/274.
They also do Barcelona to Paris Austerlitz each night in about 12 hours.
Paris - Madrid goes via Irun and takes about 13 hours each night,
Tony Bailey
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Rocket
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:24 pm
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| Eaglemist wrote: | | ISTR the Talgo went from Barcelona to Montpellier, where you change for a TGV to get to Paris. The gauge change is done at Port Bou. Wasn't particularly fast (160kmh). The cars were not tilt in 1997, but actually only have 2 wheels (1 axle) per car and each car hangs on the one in front, so they are sort of articulated. |
The cars are not a power tilt but are actually suspended on a frame that allows them to swing out on curves to counter the effects of G force and yes there is only a single axle at one end of each car and they only seat , I think, about 18 people per car. They are very small and extremely low. I think that I have a shot posted on my site in the European section.
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Tonymercury
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:34 am
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[quote="Rocket"
The cars are not a power tilt but are actually suspended on a frame that allows them to swing out on curves to counter the effects of G force and yes there is only a single axle at one end of each car and they only seat , I think, about 18 people per car. They are very small and extremely low. I think that I have a shot posted on my site in the European section.[/quote]
The prototype Talgo XII, the fastest diesel train in the world, has active tilt.
Tony Bailey
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