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Dr Beeching
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VRfan
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:04 pm
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I agree with you. I think the electric tilt train is one of the best looking trains in Australia. I think the diesel one is pretty ugly by comparison.
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Aura
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:07 pm
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Why? Did you travel on both trains.I hope you have some onboard shots to show of the service and interior of cars.
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K163
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:39 pm
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i think they should replace the XPTs with tilt trains, as they look more moedern, so more people will travel on it. Also it is electric, so it should be more relyable.
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Craig Walton
What I say here is my thoughts, and doesn't represent the MRPS or Woolworths ltd... smeg imagine it did!
If you want to loose weight, don't eat anything that comes in a BUCKET!
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Dr Beeching
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:32 am
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| Aura wrote: | | Why? Did you travel on both trains.I hope you have some onboard shots to show of the service and interior of cars. |
I travelled on both trains before. Electric tilt train I took it last time in March this year, basically I take that train at least once a year. Cairns tilt train I took it from Cairns to Proserpine and return only 5 days ago! 
My comparison based on much softer business class seats compare to firmer seats on Cairns tilt train, personally I felt even with 1+2 seating arrangement in CTT, the seat is kinda hard to sleep in, even the economic class in electric tlt train with 2+2 seating has softer seats than CTT. Electric tilt train serve either top quality grill chicken or lamb steak, desert, and morning/afternoon tea in business class, whereas Cairns tilt train meal are very simialr to the XPT one.(Simple "frozen food" style)
Hey?..whatever happen to my warning level?
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Dr Beeching
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:39 am
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| Aura wrote: | | Why? Did you travel on both trains.I hope you have some onboard shots to show of the service and interior of cars. |
OOps forgot to say..
I wish I can show you some interior of the both trains....I am still waiting for Camera House to upload my pictures onto the internet, as soon as they done that I will show it here.
Hey?..whatever happen to my warning level?
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John of Melbourne
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:08 am
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| K163 wrote: | | i think they should replace the XPTs with tilt trains, as they look more moedern, so more people will travel on it. Also it is electric, so it should be more relyable. |
They wouldn't get far without overhead wires to supply them the juice. 
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Dr Beeching
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Aura
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:13 pm
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James C. Thanks a bunch for the pics of the RTT.The seating is excellent,looks like the interior of a Qantas aircraft.I was interested to read your assessment of the CTT.I believe it is important that passengers are happy with onboard catering,as this contributes to a sense of satisfaction.I read a lot of travelogues on the net,and one very good producer is Chris Fussell of Portland,Oregon,USA.He takes many pics,and one Talgo Tilt Train running between Eugene,Or and Seattle and Vancouver,BC,Canada is called 'The Cascades'.He shows some excellent shots of the trains and his travels,and I think we can learn a fair bit from Americans.Have a look http://www.trainweb.org/f40phr231/ It may take a little while to download.
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Riccardo
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:39 pm
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Haven't done the CTT and not likely to - too far for the money
Enjoyed the RTT on a trip from Brisbane to Maryborough for Harvey Bay I did not long after it was launched. Really enjoyed and thought the train was very elegant.
The thing I liked about the RTT with its style, speed and catenary above you, and particularly in some settings eg lower sunshine coast stations, or at Gladstone, you can fool yourself for a moment that you are in a country that cares about rail transport - like Europe or Japan.
Then you wake up  and realise it was a one-off, that electorates like tilt trains as special treats, but aren't prepared to spend what will make them work - more sets, extensive realignments and charging on parallel roads.
If you need to get in touch, drop a comment at the Transport Textbook or on my blog.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 1:29 am
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| Aura wrote: | | James C. Thanks a bunch for the pics of the RTT.The seating is excellent,looks like the interior of a Qantas aircraft.I was interested to read your assessment of the CTT.I believe it is important that passengers are happy with onboard catering,as this contributes to a sense of satisfaction.I read a lot of travelogues on the net,and one very good producer is Chris Fussell of Portland,Oregon,USA.He takes many pics,and one Talgo Tilt Train running between Eugene,Or and Seattle and Vancouver,BC,Canada is called 'The Cascades'.He shows some excellent shots of the trains and his travels,and I think we can learn a fair bit from Americans.Have a look http://www.trainweb.org/f40phr231/ It may take a little while to download. |
I got the CTT pictures under Queensland forum "Diesel tilt train" post by 600t/Joel.
You all can check out the interior pictures
Hey?..whatever happen to my warning level?
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Maikha
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 3:56 pm
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| Jam>s C/ wrote: | 
Stylish, cool, comfortable and better food
PS..this one is heading to Bundaberg..Picture taken by me, please do not use without premission... |
Just if anyone's interested, here are my pics:
http://www.theintercityplatform-qld.iwarp.com/traveltrain/tilttrain/index.htm
Personally, I like the RTT, but I haven't been on the CTT to see the difference. The RTT is really like a narrow airliner with wide windows. The service aboard the train was brilliant.
If only this kinda of train also existed in NSW
Cheers
Maikha "V" Ly
P.S. Refer to my article in the April 2002 issue of Railway Digest
Cheers
Maikha Ly
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