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K163
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:14 pm
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Hi all,
i was wondering where the conection between air compressers (paticular on steamers) and fridges/whitegoods are? i mainly ask as i've wondered why westinghouse make them both.
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Craig Walton
What I say here is my thoughts, and doesn't represent the MRPS or Woolworths ltd... smeg imagine it did!
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John of Melbourne
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:03 am
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| K163 wrote: | Hi all,
i was wondering where the conection between air compressers (paticular on steamers) and fridges/whitegoods are? i mainly ask as i've wondered why westinghouse make them both. |
Fridges use compressors.
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K163
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:06 am
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are they as big as the ones on the bigger steamers?
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Craig Walton
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T411
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:57 am
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Westinghouse probably manafacture fridges becasue they beleive that there is money to be made in it. A lot of larger businesses have more then one area they make money out of. Westinghouse also make level crossing and signalling equipment, again as they would consider there to be money made out of it 
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:59 pm
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Fridges use the principle that if you compress a gas it gets hotter, and if you uncompress it, it gets cooler. So they compress it out the back, let off all that heat, and uncompress it near the food and cool it down.
That's also why it's easy to have a reverse-cycle air conditioner which can heat as well as cool - it just swaps which is the front and back.
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zipitidoodah
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:00 pm
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It makes for a pretty interesting company! But I'm yet to see a sales brochure that says: "Hi, we're Westinghouse, and we make fridges, air compressors and railway signals"  I think they make some other wierd stuff too, like I've seen their logo on something but I can't remember what.
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John of Melbourne
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:11 pm
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| T411 wrote: | | Westinghouse probably manafacture fridges becasue they beleive that there is money to be made in it. A lot of larger businesses have more then one area they make money out of. Westinghouse also make level crossing and signalling equipment, again as they would consider there to be money made out of it |
Yes, but the companies also tend to go into new areas that they believe they will be able to do well at, such as areas related to their existing expertise. I don't know what Westinghouse started with, but if it was air brakes for trains, they may have then branched out into other areas relating to railway equipment, because they already had the contacts, etc. for sales in that area. Then, once they were making compressors, they may have branched into other areas that used compressors, such as fridges. They would have had to penetrate a whole new market for this, but the design and manufacture of the fridges would have use their existing compressor expertise.
Once they were in the white-goods market, they can use this to their advantage to make and sell other white-goods.
This is all speculation, but I think that it would be the norm for companies to expand in this way. Going into a totally new field just because they thought that they could make money there is probably not that common.
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ninthnotch
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:46 am
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| zipitidoodah wrote: | | "Hi, we're Westinghouse, and we make fridges, air compressors and railway signals" |
I think if every multinational did that it would be considered bad publicity (General Electric - :Hi, we make light globes, own that US TV network, do loans, and make nuclear weapons, amongst other things! Buy our light globes!) Also a lot of diversification that is far away from the original field of work happens with takeovers/mergers - look at CSR getting into concrete (given that their name is Commonwealth Sugar Refineries) - Westinghouse at one stage was owned by the British company Email, so the assets and branding of Westinghouse - Email would be incorporated on the products of both. Although one railfan I know has an old Westinghouse fridge that sounds eerily like a W-class tram
That's an attention-getter!
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zipitidoodah
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:53 pm
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Yes, GE was another company I, too, had in mind that did lots of different things. If you go to the Australian Westinghouse website www.westinghouse.com.au/home it's all whitegoods – no surprise there! It seems to have something to do with the Electrolux Group anyway.
The American Westinghouse site (www.westinghouse.com seems to deal with nuclear stuff, and if you want railway-related stuff from Westinghouse you have to go to www.westsig.com.au, which is actually Invensys Rail Systems Australia's website. Westinghouse Signals Aus. is a division of these guys anyway.
The government would have to be the only organisation I can think of that does all sorts of stuff and markets it together, and look what it did for them!
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awsgc24
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:09 pm
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George Westinghouse was a prolific inventor whose first major venture was the Westinghouse Railway air brake, which spread around the world as a de facto standard.
George Westinghouse's next major inventions were in electricals, such as AC generators and motors, and things that used AC electricity. Other than the name, Westinghouse Electrical Co. has no connection with Westinghouse Brake Co.
BTW, GE was originally called "Edison General Electric" until there was a falling out between Thomas Edision and the EGE company, which then dropped "Edison" from the Company name.
General Electric (GE) of the US should not be confused with General Electric Company (GEC) of the UK, which is and always has been a separate company.
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_ Railway gauge _ _ _ _ : Mostly YES; Almost always 1435mm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ .
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ : except sugar cane trams, rocket launch pads, telescopes.
_ _ Shoe/hat/ ring sizes: NO_ _ _ _ _ .
May use SUW 2000 VGA to bridge break-of-gauge.
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:41 pm
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One thing I rememeber reading, and I would be interested to know if it is true - the reason why the Westinghouse air brake was not adopted by the UK was in part due to someone from Westinghouse attempting to bribe the director of a UK railway company to adopt their system, which caused the rather noble-minded director to adopt the vacuum brake that was competing for a large tender. Can anyone expand on this?
That's an attention-getter!
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 9:20 pm
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| T411 wrote: | | A lot of larger businesses have more then one area they make money out of. |
Like Dove and chocolate and hand creams :S
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