Former Inter-connecting railway (SECV) Morewell

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia

there was no briquette trains from traralgon
warragul crews used to run the blockies between morwell and marybyrnong.....  most of the traffic out of traralgon back then was the timber trains from orbost which used to pick up the mayvale loading
the timber went to westall where it was picked up by truck and delivered
direct to housing sites
"gallop3"


Ian, so why did they electrify to Traralgon??

Regards,
Brian

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  gallop3 Deputy Commissioner

i suppose the wire went to traralgon as it had aloco servicing depot
and  4 passes a day in those days all hauled by l classes
sundays were the exception normally 2 tclass locos
plus traralgon is only 10 miles from morwell
cheers
ian
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
i suppose the wire went to traralgon as it had aloco servicing depot
and  4 passes a day in those days all hauled by l classes
sundays were the exception normally 2 tclass locos
plus traralgon is only 10 miles from morwell
cheers
ian
"gallop3"


Does the locomotive servicing department still exist?
  gallop3 Deputy Commissioner

no idea
i haven't been back there since i transferred to sth dynon back in 1979
i would imagine the sheds and turntable would still be there but then with rationalisation i suppose anything is possible
someone on the forum would know
cheers
ian
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
no idea
i haven't been back there since i transferred to sth dynon back in 1979
i would imagine the sheds and turntable would still be there but then with rationalisation i suppose anything is possible
someone on the forum would know
cheers
ian
"gallop3"


For an area that has some much traffic potential to offer the rail network, the cuts have been quite deep in Gippsland.
  gippslander Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
Traralgon is still the major train stabling point in Gippsland, with 13 return passenger movements to Melb each weekday (the Bairnsdale log train and Sale fast track conmtainers are a daily late night feature)  Traralgon loco depot and turntable is intact and there a still quite a few drivers and train crew members based there.

Someone mentioned the cuts to Gippsland services - at least that has been turned around with freight trains returning to Bairnsdale in 1999 after five years of closure, passenger services to be restored to Bairnsdale by mid 2003 and Leongatha by late 2004. However, it is a pity that there appears to be little effort in seeking out new freight business - the highways are clogged with heavy trucks!

Rob
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Someone mentioned the cuts to Gippsland services - at least that has been turned around with freight trains returning to Bairnsdale in 1999 after five years of closure, passenger services to be restored to Bairnsdale by mid 2003 and Leongatha by late 2004. However, it is a pity that there appears to be little effort in seeking out new freight business - the highways are clogged with heavy trucks! Rob
"Robert Ashworth"


It is interesting.  Apart from the log traffic, how much "new business" has FA really signed in Gippsland? I have always believed there is significant business in the Gippsland area and it requires a committed group to unlock the regions potential.  Perhaps the VIC government is right, we do need other operators in Vic.

Perhaps FA will move on this but I doubt it, all we hear is profit and how well the profit is. How we hear how the drought has affected FA revenues, but they haven't (IMHO) chased non grain business hard enough, and even to the point where FA have abandoned sidings etc.
  gallop3 Deputy Commissioner

yeh
must agree there
it was a criminal act closing the orbost line which has been taken over by road transport
back in 1979 there was 2 trains a day out of orbost with full load every day with timber for housing developments
the official excuse was the cost of maintaining the trestle bridges between
bruthen and nowa nowa
its more likely someone in the govt at the time had an interest in road transport exactly similar to what happened to the frankston-mornington
railmotor services being canned for buses
they even tried to close the stony point line to passenger services but the local residents won the war there
cheers
ian
  zipitidoodah Chief Commissioner

I agree totally. You could almost sit next to the highway and point to a truck every 10 seconds and say "yep, that could be going by rail"

I see loaded log trucks going along the highway, and then you realise that two of those could fill one wagon in a train, in some cases three. When you have a thirty-wagon log train, that takes a fair number of trucks off the road.

But of course truckies will whinge about jobs and everything like that...
  gallop3 Deputy Commissioner

yeh fully agree there
railway workers once had jobs too
trouble is the lcl freight doesn't pay
all they want is block trains and intermodal freight where the customer
in most cases is paying for air freight and has no idea their freight is actually going by train to sydney
contrans and tnt have been doing this for years
the freight is in sydney the next morning and no one is the wiser
unless there is a derailment or whatever then the freight is conveniently missing until the train gets there
cheers
ian
  R 761 Chief Commissioner

Location: In A House At My Computer
Nothing is electrified any more. The electrification ends at Warragul (not sure if it's actually turned on, but it doesn't get used). There was another thread a while ago talking about electrification, you could have a look at that. Someone mentioned that they thought the overhead between Pakenham and Warragul would be dismantled this year.
"zipitidoodah"


As Far I Do Know The Wires At Warragul Are Shut Down. The Last Electric Pass Was On The 5/12/1998. Two Special Trains Ran There. titled Farwell To Warragul Under The Wires. First Train L1162 With 4BE, 14BRS,And 12AE.
The Second Train Was A Tait Set. 470M, 41T And 327M
The Tait Was The Second Last Pass Train At 14:00
L1162 Was The Last Electric Pass Train Departed At 15:30 Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sad
  R 761 Chief Commissioner

Location: In A House At My Computer
Nothing is electrified any more. The electrification ends at Warragul (not sure if it's actually turned on, but it doesn't get used). There was another thread a while ago talking about electrification, you could have a look at that. Someone mentioned that they thought the overhead between Pakenham and Warragul would be dismantled this year.
"zipitidoodah"


As Far I Do Know The Wires At Warragul Are Shut Down. The Last Electric Pass Was On The 5/12/1998. Two Special Trains Ran There. titled Farwell To Warragul Under The Wires. First Train L1162 With 4BE, 14BRS,And 12AE.
The Second Train Was A Tait Set. 470M, 41T And 327M
The Tait Was The Second Last Pass Train At 14:00
L1162 Was The Last Electric Pass Train Departed At 15:30 Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sad

Opps Bye The Way The Wires Are Still Up At Warragul When I Was Working Around K153. As You Can See The Small Pic K153 With Y164 A
Warragul On That Hot Day.I Got My Chance To Snap The Pic After I Finnished Serving The K Ready To Return To Melbourne SmileSmile
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Just to Clarify

The Gippsland Line used to Be electrified to Traralgon because it had a locomotive depot. you can still see the cantery stuff on the overhead bridges and beside the line.

Morwell had several branch lines running off it, but they were not electrified.


The briquette freight line closed in 2000/1 but part of it is used as a siding and you can access it up until the highway overpass.

the ICR is a seperate line running from Hazelwood Power Station to Yallourn.

Maryvale had papaer trains running from it. other trains were general or Wood trains.

Where the Mirboo line runs off there is a garden where it used to be. there is also a bulding covering part of an old goods center
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Idea  Is this a new record  Question

Over 6 years this post has been dormant Exclamation  It would be a reasonable assumption to suggest that the original poster has died of old age, or worse, completely lost their marbles  Rolling EyesConfused

Mike.

PS Morwell has lost the 'E' in the intervening years, sort of like Ballarat losing one of its 'a's. Exclamation
  gippslander Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
Quite a few points to correct here:

Just to Clarify

The Gippsland Line used to Be electrified to Traralgon because it had a locomotive depot. you can still see the cantery stuff on the overhead bridges and beside the line.

+++ Nothing to do with loco depots, it was electrified because of the briquette business.

Morwell had several branch lines running off it, but they were not electrified.

+++ Only one branchline ex Morwell (Mirboo North line), unless you count the paper mill siding.

The briquette freight line closed in 2000/1 but part of it is used as a siding and you can access it up until the highway overpass.

+++ The siding to EnergyBrix was last used in 2002. It used to go right through to Hazelwood Power.

the ICR is a seperate line running from Hazelwood Power Station to Yallourn.

+++ The 900mm gauge ICR ran from the coal dump point at the back of Energybrix to the Yallourn mine. It never went to Hazelwood and was closed in 2001.

Maryvale had papaer trains running from it. other trains were general or Wood trains.

+++ Confusing.  The Maryvale public siding was used as a breakpoint between the paper mill operated services on their siding and the main network, until V/Line took over operations in about 1998.  During its sadly brief period as an intermodal terminal, it was briefly used as a log loading site and for general freight.  

Where the Mirboo line runs off there is a garden where it used to be. there is also a bulding covering part of an old goods center
"speedemon08"


The Morwell Rose Garden takes up the departure point of the Mirboo Nth line and the new Latrobe City Council offices & carpark have just about totally covered the old yard.  

Finally, you need to proof read & spellcheck postings before you hit the submit button. Unfortunately, what you have written makes very little sense!
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Just to Clarify

The Gippsland Line used to Be electrified to Traralgon because it had a locomotive depot. you can still see the cantery stuff on the overhead bridges and beside the line
"speedemon08"
Yes, plus the Yallourn line

Morwell had several branch lines running off it, but they were not electrified.
"speedemon08"
The Hazelwood line was electrified


The briquette freight line closed in 2000/1 but part of it is used as a siding and you can access it up until the highway overpass.
"speedemon08"
2002 (The last briquettes were railed to Dennington In Feb 2002)

the ICR is a seperate line running from Hazelwood Power Station to Yallourn.
"speedemon08"
Was a 900 mm gauge line that ran from Morwell power station to Yallourn raw coal bunker and workshops (there was a conveyor belt linking the rail outloader/loader at Morwell power station to Hazelwood power station)

Maryvale had papaer trains running from it. other trains were general or Wood trains.
"speedemon08"
The Maryvale paper train carries rolls of processed paper loaded In containers

There is also a bulding covering part of an old goods center
"speedemon08"
This Is the near new Latrobe City Shire Officers, relocated from Traralgon as part of a plan to revamp the Morwell CBD
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Just to Clarify

The Gippsland Line used to Be electrified to Traralgon because it had a locomotive depot. you can still see the cantery stuff on the overhead bridges and beside the line
"speedemon08"
Yes, plus the Yallourn line

Morwell had several branch lines running off it, but they were not electrified.
"speedemon08"
The Hazelwood line was electrified


The briquette freight line closed in 2000/1 but part of it is used as a siding and you can access it up until the highway overpass.
"speedemon08"
2002 (The last briquettes were railed to Dennington In Feb 2002)

the ICR is a seperate line running from Hazelwood Power Station to Yallourn.
"speedemon08"
Was a 900 mm gauge line that ran from Morwell power station to Yallourn raw coal bunker and workshops (there was a conveyor belt linking the rail outloader/loader at Morwell power station to Hazelwood power station)
"Nightfire"

Just to clarify and add to the discussion thus far:

The main line was electrified as far as Traralgon, and electrification also extended to the Moe-Yallourn direct line and the Morwell Briquette Siding. The siding beyond the Morwell Briquette Factory to Hazelwood Power Station was only ever used as a construction siding for the power station, and was never electrified. The whole length of the Morwell Briquette Siding and the Hazelwood extension were always worked as sidings within Morwell yard limits. Single or double RT tractors could often be seen zipping between Morwell and the briquette works as needed.

The original Yallourn line left the main line at 'old' Hernes Oak, and was not electrified. 'Old' Hernes Oak was bypassed when the main line was deviated in (from memory) 1963, to allow for expansion of the Yallourn open cut. 'New' Hernes Oak is the crossing loop on the deviation.

The ICR was always owned and operated by the SEC, and was the last remnant of a once-extensive network of 900 mm gauge lines which served the Yallourn open cut as well as extending to Morwell (but not into the open cut at Morwell).

The Mirboo North line branched off at the up end of Morwell, and crossed over the ICR at the edge of town.

The Maryvale Paper Mill line in the 1960s was owned and operated by APM, using their own locomotives to transfer wagons between the mill and the exchange sidings. On the VR, these sidings were an Intermediate Electric Staff post. This meant that trains could be 'locked away' in the sidings to allow other trains to run through. This happened almost every weekday afternoon when the up goods was being marshalled at the exchange sidings and the up 'Gippslander' and the following all-stations pass ran through.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
The Briquette Siding, the remnants of which can be seen from the highway, is separate to the short spur that also used to branch off in a southerly direction into the old SEC Workshops area, roughly where the Powerworks eastbound off-ramp joins Commercial Rd.

It wasn't hard to get airborne over that crossing. Wink
  Johnmc Moderator

Location: Cloncurry, Queensland
Just to Clarify

The Gippsland Line used to Be electrified to Traralgon because it had a locomotive depot. you can still see the cantery stuff on the overhead bridges and beside the line.

Morwell had several branch lines running off it, but they were not electrified.


The briquette freight line closed in 2000/1 but part of it is used as a siding and you can access it up until the highway overpass.

the ICR is a seperate line running from Hazelwood Power Station to Yallourn.

Maryvale had papaer trains running from it. other trains were general or Wood trains.

Where the Mirboo line runs off there is a garden where it used to be. there is also a bulding covering part of an old goods center
"speedemon08"


What is this obsession of late with raising things from the dead?  I know we're getting close to Easter, but COME ON.


speedemon08:  Mate.   On the generally assumed rule - I think this is from the movie "Class" - that "everyone is allowed to screw up *once*", I'm going to let this one fly.  But *please*, once a thread is more than a few months old, don't restart it unless you have relevant information to add.  And when it's *6 years* old, don't restart it at all.
Start another thread, and leave a link to the old one (to keep our "There's already a thread on this!" Nazi's happy.)

This is not us being killjoy bastards, it's common netiquette (Internet courtesty.)

Ref calls play on.  As you were. Razz
  gippslander Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
 The ICR was always owned and operated by the SEC, and was the last remnant of a once-extensive network of 900 mm gauge lines which served the Yallourn open cut as well as extending to Morwell (but not into the open cut at Morwell).

"pjknife"


Not quite true - the ICR was sold to Energy Brix Australia in 1994 as part of the SEC privatization process. At that time, EBAC intended to close ICR in favour of a new coal road. When the tenders came in, Cooks Constructions quoted for a diesel hauled rail service, which they ran until about 1998. EBAC then used National Logistics Co-Ordinators as the operator until the line closed at the end of 2001, and disposed of the track & rollingstock within 12 months.
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
 The ICR was always owned and operated by the SEC, and was the last remnant of a once-extensive network of 900 mm gauge lines which served the Yallourn open cut as well as extending to Morwell (but not into the open cut at Morwell).

"pjknife"


Not quite true - the ICR was sold to Energy Brix Australia in 1994 as part of the SEC privatization process. At that time, EBAC intended to close ICR in favour of a new coal road. When the tenders came in, Cooks Constructions quoted for a diesel hauled rail service, which they ran until about 1998. EBAC then used National Logistics Co-Ordinators as the operator until the line closed at the end of 2001, and disposed of the track & rollingstock within 12 months.
"gippslander"

You're absolutely right, of course. I was in '1960s mode' when I wrote that, and wanted to draw a distinction between it and the VR-owned coal lines.

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