Railway Archaeology Quiz #4

 
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

In south australia it was legisive requirement only. Because only the SA Goverment could operate railways up until I think AN took over SAR. The only difference between tramway/railway is a tramway company was only repositble for track and ballest. As a railway the SAR in this case was respositable for everything from one fence to the other and everything else in between eg track.


Since the Silverton Tramway didn't run in South Australia at all, SA legislation is irrelevant.  In any case, the legislation defining a tramway is state-based, and may be different from state to state, and I am uncertain whether this definition is true in SA.

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  TA 2000 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA - I wish!
OK, let's try this one. A couple of short sections of an 18" gauge tramway are still in place within 4 km of Port Lincoln. What tramway was it?

Peter
"pjknife"


Coffin Bay Tramway it was removed in 2001 and last train ran on it in 1993.
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Coffin Bay Tramway it was removed in 2001 and last train ran on it in 1993.


Close, but not quite. Although officially a Tramway, that line was standard gauge with 107 lb rail.

Peter
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

This one has gone on long enough ... I waited to see whether anyone else would answer the question, but I guess it was a little obscure.

Remnants of an 18" gauge tramway exist in the Grain Produce Department at Port Lincoln.

Am I right?
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Remnants of an 18" gauge tramway exist in the Grain Produce Department at Port Lincoln.


Close enough. Actually the Government Produce Dept, otherwise known as the abattoirs.

Over to you...
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Remnants of an 18" gauge tramway exist in the Grain Produce Department at Port Lincoln.

Close enough. Actually the Government Produce Dept, otherwise known as the abattoirs.
"pjknife"

Phew.  Staggered that when I wrote "Grain" you understood that the brain was saying "Government".  Probably because Port Lincoln has lots of grain, but is a long way from the government.  So staggered in fact that it has taken me a few days to catch my breath (or perhaps that's just the abattoirs...

My question:

Horsham in western Victoria was quite well known as the junction for the branch line to Goroke and the cross-country line to Hamilton.  However for some years another line branched off the western line at Horsham.

What was this line?  Bonus points for years of operation.
  simont141 Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide
I think it might have been the McKenzie Creek Tramway? I don't know about the years of operation though.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I think it might have been the McKenzie Creek Tramway? I don't know about the years of operation though.
"simont141"


Well done!  The McKenzie Creek Tramway ran from Horsham station south for about six miles (10 km) to a quarry near McKenzie Creek.  the line opened in 1885, closed in 1927.

Your question...
  simont141 Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide
Throughout the Pichi Richi Pass you can see black cylinders about a foot tall and 6 inches in diameter poking out of the ground along the track.

What are these and when were they put in place?
  simont141 Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide
Throughout the Pichi Richi Pass you can see black cylinders about a foot tall and 6 inches in diameter poking out of the ground along the track.

What are these and when were they put in place?
"simont141"


C'mon guys, it's not very hard Razz Clue: they were put in during the very early stages of the railway. That's a dead give away.
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
Throughout the Pichi Richi Pass you can see black cylinders about a foot tall and 6 inches in diameter poking out of the ground along the track.

What are these and when were they put in place?
"simont141"


C'mon guys, it's not very hard Razz Clue: they were put in during the very early stages of the railway. That's a dead give away.
"simont141"


Hmmm! Obviously the bases for the proposed electrification.  Laughing

No, only a dead givaway if you know the line perhaps.
  Riccardo Minister for Railways

Location: Gone. Don't bother PMing here.
Bases for the telegraph wire to stop goats eating the poles?

Agree, this question is slanted a little bit too much in favour of people who know the PRR backwoods. Could we get some more that are a bit easier for people with general rail knowledge?
  simont141 Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide
I think you'll find that these would have been used on any railway built along time ago. Ill give you part of the answer - they were placed there 1877/1878.
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
I think you'll find that these would have been used on any railway built along time ago. Ill give you part of the answer - they were placed there 1877/1878.
"simont141"


Time capsules. Smile
  simont141 Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide
Good try Razz but no, the whole line is one big time capsual Razz

Ill give you the answer tonight if noone gets it.

Clue - they were put there in 1877/1878 when the railway was first built/being built. These (or very similar) would have been used on any railway that was built round that time.
  simont141 Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide
They were surveying posts. Put in during the 1877/1878 period when the line was getting built. More were put in a bit later when the track was realigned.

I'll pass it on to B 67. Ask away.
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
They were surveying posts. Put in during the 1877/1878 period when the line was getting built. More were put in a bit later when the track was realigned.

I'll pass it on to B 67. Ask away.
"simont141"

Oh dear! I didn't come close. And now I have had the responsibility of asking a question thrust upon me.  Rolling Eyes

Oh well. I should've thought of something to ask earlier.

Okay. This should be relatively simple (like the last one  Smile ).

What VR line (that narrows it down a lot) had stations along it, that all begun with the same letter?
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
They were surveying posts. Put in during the 1877/1878 period when the line was getting built. More were put in a bit later when the track was realigned.
"simont141"
I wondered if it was something like that, but I have never seen such things here in Vic.  Only little white wooden pegs.


I'll pass it on to B 67. Ask away.
"simont141"

Oh dear! I didn't come close. And now I have had the responsibility of asking a question thrust upon me.  Rolling Eyes

Oh well. I should've thought of something to ask earlier.

Okay. This should be relatively simple (like the last one  Smile ).

What VR line (that narrows it down a lot) had stations along it, that all begun with the same letter?
"B 67"
I could suggest the Wedderburn, Spring Vale Cemetary, Yallourn, or Mont Park lines Smile , but I think I will go for Briagalong.
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
They were surveying posts. Put in during the 1877/1878 period when the line was getting built. More were put in a bit later when the track was realigned.
"simont141"
I wondered if it was something like that, but I have never seen such things here in Vic.  Only little white wooden pegs.


I'll pass it on to B 67. Ask away.
"simont141"

Oh dear! I didn't come close. And now I have had the responsibility of asking a question thrust upon me.  Rolling Eyes

Oh well. I should've thought of something to ask earlier.

Okay. This should be relatively simple (like the last one  Smile ).

What VR line (that narrows it down a lot) had stations along it, that all begun with the same letter?
"B 67"
I could suggest the Wedderburn, Spring Vale Cemetary, Yallourn, or Mont Park lines Smile , but I think I will go for Briagalong.
"John of Melbourne"

Well, I did say ALL the stations on the line. Not just THE station on the line. So that was intended to remove the other lines you mentioned. Which correctly left Briagalong as the answer I expected. Boisdale and Bushy Park being the other stations on the line.
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
During at least the 1980s and 1990s (I haven't checked in a while) a (relocated) foundation stone for the Geelong and Melbourne Railway Company was located where?
  oz1235 Junior Train Controller

little river
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
During at least the 1980s and 1990s (I haven't checked in a while) a (relocated) foundation stone for the Geelong and Melbourne Railway Company was located where?
"By way of a question, I"
little river
"By way of an answer, oz1235"
Maybe there's another one there, or maybe that's where it is now, but NO, that is not the answer I was after.
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
Obviously a clue is needed.

It was in North Melbourne.  Does anybody know specifically where?
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
A bit more information before I give up waiting and give the answer.

I had a look today, and the foundation stone is still there in North Melbourne.

The lettering is
G.& M.R.
1857
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
A bit more information before I give up waiting and give the answer.

I had a look today, and the foundation stone is still there in North Melbourne.

The lettering is
G.& M.R.
1857
"John of Melbourne"


The only one I know the current location of is the picture in VR to '62.  Very Happy
But I'm sure that's not what you're after either.

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