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robbo
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:38 pm
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Before they were axed, what rail services ran from Hobart and how often did they run? Were there suburban services to the suburbs or just trains to further places like Launceston?
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awsgc24
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:26 pm
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And while you are there, how far did the double track extend in Hobart?
SVP. 
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tasrail
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 1:20 pm
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| robbo wrote: | | Before they were axed, what rail services ran from Hobart and how often did they run? Were there suburban services to the suburbs or just trains to further places like Launceston? |
I assume you mean passeger serives, as freight trains still operate daily. 
In later years, it was only the daily Tasman Limited ran to Wynyard. There was an additional serivce from Hobart to Launceston two evenings per week, plus the fridays only Parattah railcar.
For suburban trains, I wote from the Tasmanan Transport Museum "Suburban Wander" tour notes:
"In the final year of suburban passenger trains there were 26 departures from Hobart, mostly between 05:25 and 18:15 but with a late night train to Risdon at 23:15. These departures comprised two trains to Brighton, three to New Norfolk, four to Bridgewater, one to Austins Ferry, ten to Cadburys and six to Risdon.
By contrast there were 38 departures in 1957"
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tasrail
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 1:21 pm
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| awsgc24 wrote: | And while you are there, how far did the double track extend in Hobart?
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Claremont, at 14km from Hobart was the end of the double track
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Stuart
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K160
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:54 pm
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Home of the Cadbury chocolate factory. Yumm 
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T411
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:03 pm
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When did the Cadbury siding close and get removed?
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tasrail
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:56 am
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| T411 wrote: | | When did the Cadbury siding close and get removed? |
Closed to freight traffic sometime around 1983. Then used by the Tas Loco Company to store their passenger train. Line was lifted sometime around 1992 when the chocolate factory wanted to expand.
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railway
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:38 pm
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Do you think that suburban passenger trains in Hobart would work today if they were reinstated in the form of a modern electrified network?
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tasrail
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:23 am
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| railway wrote: | | Do you think that suburban passenger trains in Hobart would work today if they were reinstated in the form of a modern electrified network? |
Having just the one major route would limit the potential for growth. If you didn’t have to repay any of the capital costs (stations, trains etc), and worked with Metro (the bus operator), you would probably cover costs if you could complete on speed, price, quality, and have a reasonable frequency. Unfortunately it would be hard to better the every 10 minute bus frequency that drops you off right in the main block of the city.
It proably comes down to polictical will and economic reality more than anything.
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freightgate
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:27 am
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Not to forget guys that trams also once ran around that fine city! The map below also shows the old hobart stations that were once used.
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GNR10
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:26 pm
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As for getting trains wouldn't some 3 car ex Melbourne emus suit the job?
Tasrails'd be more a future than sitting at sims metal to be cut surely .
Please do not misinterpret my asinine comments as something intelligible
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SAR T186
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:17 pm
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So how many suburban line were there? From the map of the tram system, hobart looked it had a nice little tramway system. What is the crrent population of Hobart? would it be enough to support a train or tram system again?
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tasrail
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:30 pm
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| SAR T186 wrote: | | So how many suburban line were there? From the map of the tram system, hobart looked it had a nice little tramway system. What is the crrent population of Hobart? would it be enough to support a train or tram system again? |
Just the one line, from Hobart station north, with short country runs going up both the main line and DV line beyond Bridgewater. The Bellerive - Sorell line runs through what is now suburbia, but wasn't then.
ABS says the current pupulation of the local government areas that the railway line runs through is around 120,000.
Stuart
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SAR T186
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:33 pm
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With 120,000 in my opinion wouldnt be enough people to justify for a regular suburban service and with only one line as well. Was there any proposal's at all the build any new lines and extend the suburban system? When you look at Hobart it sounds like a big country town.
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tasrail
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:08 pm
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| SAR T186 wrote: | | When you look at Hobart it sounds like a big country town. |
Not that bad. There would be another 100,000 or so in the two/three LGAs that don't have a railway line, making a totoal of 200k to 250k people in the greater Hobart area (say 40 minutes drive of the GPO).
Burnie and Devonport on the other hand . . . .
Stuart
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